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CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar

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RedForman said:
Something that was mentioned on the facebook group got my wheels spinning. I really don't think LFIM and his acolytes are done pushing things. What if Axanar wasn't the goal either, what if it was just the means to an end? By that, I mean what if LFIM's ultimate goal is to make C/P go nuclear and crack down on ALL fan produced media.......thus turning fandom itself against C/P and making himself out to be its Lord and Savior (thus satiating his ego/satisfying his narcissism)??

The way this section of the recent financial report reads, that's what it sounds like to me...........

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Coming up shortly: CBS guidelines for audio production, fan written fiction and art books.
 
RedForman said:
Looks like LFIM is tip-toeing into the realm of 'TrekLit' now.........

http://www.axanarproductions.com/captains-log-march-6th-2017/

Also, Slow Lane has stirred up more drama (this true believer will go down with the ship)

http://fanfilmfactor.com/2017/03/11/think-of-the-children-why-i-still-believe-in-axanar/#more-3722
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The question is, would Alec do all this if he could never be a character in any show, or a kingmaker to any of the fans, or important director of Trek (except director of a fan film group) sitting on panels, or writer of Trek appended to canon, or make any money off of it..

For example, run a nonprofit arts institution for fan films, and be the nonprofit arts institution administrative wonk at conventions..

I just don't think so. I think Alec is motivated by carving out a place for himself at the table with Trek staff and actors. If he had only wanted to build the fan film institute he talks of he could have done it by not trying to divert so much of it into his own benefit in various ways.

So Alec may have a real Achilles' heel. The Trek attorneys could ban him from Trek for repeated attempts to horn in on their revenue streams. And then what he wants would be ended.

I imagine the studios are literally watching his actions like hawks now. So whatever he does had better take his situation into account. Somehow his mind had better inform his ego of the risks of gaming things again.
 
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Csalem said:
How did Gene Roddenberry approve of SNW when he died a number of years before the first book was published?
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I actually have asked that on trhe site (doubt the comment will be approved or answered though):
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March 13, 2017 at 12:10 pm
Question: Since Gene Roddenberry died in 1991 – how was he able to actually approve a series of stories/books first published in 1998 — 7 years after his death?
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The Gene Roddenberry reference is a fair one, in my opinion. His comments referred to fan-written Star Trek stories, and appeared in "Star Trek: The New Voyages," a collection of fan stories published (licensed) by Bantam Books in the 70s, a precursor, if you will, of Strange New Worlds.
 
Allow me to repeat what Gene Roddenberry himself wrote in his 1976 introduction for Star Trek: The New Voyages, a Bantam published book edited by Sondra Marshak and Myrna Culbreath:
...Certainly the loveliest happening of all for us was the fact that so many others began to feel the same way [about Star Trek as we did]. Television viewers by the millions began to take Star Trek to heart as their own personal optimistic view of the Human condition and future. They fought for the show, honored it, cherished it, wrote about it--and have continued to do their level best to make certain that it will live again.

...We were particularly amazed when thousands, then tens of thousands of people began creating their own personal Star Trek adventures. Stories, and paintings, and sculptures, and cookbooks. And songs, and poems, and fashions. And more. The list is still growing. It took some time for us to fully understand and appreciate what these people were saying. Eventually we realized that there is no more profound way in which people could express what Star Trek has meant to them than by creating their own very personal Star Trek things.

Because I am a writer, it was their Star Trek stories that especially gratified me. I have seen these writings in dog-eared notebooks of fans who didn't look old enough to spell "cat." I have seen them in meticulously produced fanzines, complete with excellent artwork. Some of it has even been done by professional writers, and muchof it has come from those clearly on their way to becoming professional writers. Best of all, all of it was plainly done with love.

It is now a source of great joy for me to see their view of Star Trek, their new Star Trek stories, reaching professional publication here. I want to thank these writers, congratulate them on their efforts, and wish them good fortune on these and further of their voyages into other times and dimensions. Good writing is always a very personal thing and comes from the writer's deepest self. Star Trek was that kind of writing for me, and it moves me profoundly that it has also become so much a part of the inner self of so many other people.

Viewers like this have proved that there is a warm, loving, and intelligent lifeform out there--and that it may even be the dominant species on this planet.

That is the highest compliment and the greatest repayment that they could give us.
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RedForman said:
Looks like LFIM is tip-toeing into the realm of 'TrekLit' now.........

http://www.axanarproductions.com/captains-log-march-6th-2017/

Also, Slow Lane has stirred up more drama (this true believer will go down with the ship)

http://fanfilmfactor.com/2017/03/11/think-of-the-children-why-i-still-believe-in-axanar/#more-3722
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Slow Lane is a jack ass. Alec does not have thousands of true believers, he lucky if he has 100 that still believe in him. I have to believe the majority of people can think for themselves in some capacity, and not continually support this con artist.

BTW ( production 101 ;) ), looking at a pic on that page of the studio with the green screen I'm surprised the floor around it is not green also. Many of the studios I have worked at have the floor green and rounded up to the wall to make for a continuous surface. This allows for many more shooting angles to be used. Of course, you would put protective covering down on it before you could even walk or put equipment on it. To me Industry Studios in limited in that regard. I would rather shoot at Laurel Canyon (which has 3 dimensional green screen capabilities (and has full sound proofing to!), to give my production the best possible shooting angles available.
 
The Kickstarter for you to get to pay Axanar studio's rent+utilities hasn't launched yet but here's its pitch video. Richard Hatch makes an appearance, as well as several filmmakers who can't wait to get that free (?) studio space. Comments are open.

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Are you a student film maker looking to pitch your project to donors? Come meet us at our offices, where we can show you how to blow 1.5 million in donated funds and have nothing to show for it (except awesome figurines, IKEA furniture, and lots of sushi)!
 
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