News Jason Isaacs Joins Star Trek: Discovery as Captain Lorca

[Apparition B5]

And let's not forget that Richard Nixon was Star Trek's biggest fan in the 60s

He was? That's the first time I've ever heard that.

Getting a wee bit off topic here, but there is an alternate history science-fiction novel written by Michael Bishop titled Philip K. Dick is Dead, Alas. In the novel, the United States won the Vietnam War, Watergate never happened, and Richard M. Nixon rode a huge popularity wave to declare himself Emperor of the United States. Anyway, he was so enthralled with Star Trek that he ordered it to continue, all the way through 1982, (when the novel takes place). Now, if this was based on something, or is the source of that rumor, I have no idea.

 

[Tesophius]

 

[RandyS]

Getting a wee bit off topic here, but there is an alternate history science-fiction novel written by Michael Bishop titled Philip K. Dick is Dead, Alas. In the novel, the United States won the Vietnam War, Watergate never happened, and Richard M. Nixon rode a huge popularity wave to declare himself Emperor of the United States. Anyway, he was so enthralled with Star Trek that he ordered it to continue, all the way through 1982, (when the novel takes place). Now, if this was based on something, or is the source of that rumor, I have no idea.

Huh. Thanks for that. I've have to check that book out one of these days.

 

[jamestyler]

I hope the show is not gritty at all, why should a space ship centuries from now be dark and gritty.

I feel like this was Rick Berman's mantra during Voyager. "Sure, they're stranged with no supplies, limited power, no backup, resources, everyone at home think they're dead and they'll never see their loved ones again - but surely they should be cheery!"

 

[Captain of the USS Averof]

And let's not forget that Richard Nixon was Star Trek's biggest fan in the 60s

No, actually let's forget that.

 

[Tesophius]

I feel like this was Rick Berman's mantra during Voyager. "Sure, they're stranged with no supplies, limited power, no backup, resources, everyone at home think they're dead and they'll never see their loved ones again - but surely they should be cheery!"

They can still be depressed in a bright, spaceship-like spotless, clean, futuristic environment.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

If it's a choice between being too cheery, or being mired in depression and misery 24/7 like the characters in nuBSG, I think I'd choose cheery.

 

[jamestyler]

They can still be depressed in a bright, spaceship-like spotless, clean, futuristic environment.

If power, supplies, food and all other resources were in jeopardy, yet they always had a fresh supply of polish and carpet shampoo - I'd have some big questions about the quartermaster's priorities.

 

[Tesophius]

If power, supplies, food and all other resources were in jeopardy, yet they always had a fresh supply of polish and carpet shampoo - I'd have some big questions about the quartermaster's priorities.

It's the 24th century, self cleaning materials have been ubiquitous for centuries
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/self-cleaning-materials/

Anyway, Voyager was a special case, but even ENT was just always literally dark, like they were saving money on lights.

 

[jamestyler]

It's the 24th century, self cleaning materials have been ubiquitous for centuries

.....and yet, would need power. Which means either they wasted power making sure the carpet looked clean - or they had a surplus of cleaning products.

Or they had one of those 2X4B's aboard....

 

[CorporalClegg]

People clean when they're board. Voyager probably had its fair share of bored crew members.

As for the skirts, why not just leave it up to the actors' discretion? If Green wants to wear pants, let her wear pants. If she wants to wear a skirt, give her a skirt.

*ETA: Heck, if Isaacs wants to wear a skirt. Let him wear a skirt. Early TNG got it right.

 

[Tesophius]

.....and yet, would need power. Which means either they wasted power making sure the carpet looked clean - or they had a surplus of cleaning products.

Or they had one of those 2X4B's aboard....

Actually most of the emerging self-cleaning technologies do not require power and that's in the beginning of the 21st century.

 

[Bones]

That kind of tension will just give them excuses to dedicate entire episodes to it whenever the writers can't come up with a new interesting idea for an episode.

Dramatic tension can be an instrument for good writers or a crutch for bad ones. I'm being optimistic about the talent of the writing team we'll see on DSC.

 

[CorporalClegg]

Actually most of the emerging self-cleaning technologies do not require power and that's in the beginning of the 21st century.

By "power" he meant "energy." Everything requires energy.

 

[rhllot]

If it's a choice between being too cheery, or being mired in depression and misery 24/7 like the characters in nuBSG, I think I'd choose cheery.

I do not think anyone could be cheery when all of their civilization was destroyed and humanity is almost extinct while traveling through the galaxy pursued by robot assassins

 

[Tesophius]

By "power" he meant "energy." Everything requires energy.

Only at the manufacturing stage, none from the ships' resources.

 

[cultcross]

They can still be depressed in a bright, spaceship-like spotless, clean, futuristic environment.

You can, but fiction tends to use the environment to reflect the emotions and themes of the story. It's the dark and stormy night trope writ large. Darker in tone shows tend to be literally darker, shows with more conflicted characters tend to show them as dirty, sweaty, and tired.

 

[Tesophius]

You can, but fiction tends to use the environment to reflect the emotions and themes of the story. It's the dark and stormy night trope writ large. Darker in tone shows tend to be literally darker, shows with more conflicted characters tend to show them as dirty, sweaty, and tired.

Sure, obviously they do it for a reason, but it seems like a cheap move. TMP successfully conveyed a sense of constant urgency in a bright, futuristic environment:

 

[Ovation]

Sure, obviously they do it for a reason, but it seems like a cheap move. TMP successfully conveyed a sense of constant urgency in a bright, futuristic environment:

TMP (which I enjoy) displayed many things. "Urgency" was NOT among them.

 

[Tesophius]

Definitely a subjective statement. It effectively conveyed a sense of urgency, as far as I'm concerned.