Spoilers Supergirl - Season 2

[dahj]

So... change of opening narration next week?

The anti-anti-immigrant message was surprisingly timely. I also liked, and I'm not sure if this was intentional or not because it was a bit subtle compared to how blatant the main message was, but right after Alex beats up the guy in custody we get Snapper talking on how the public needs to know the whole truth about clandestine government agencies.

Alex and Maggie going Lethal Weapon with Joe Pesci alien fella was great, as were the Kara/Lena bits. Lilian having a spy in L Corp reaffirms that Lena isn't some all knowing evil schemer, and I hope it stays that way. As Cat/Kara was more of a mentor/metee relationship, and Kara has grown up since then I think it would be great to cultivate the Lena/Kara relationship as two strong women who are both friends and equals.

Jeremiah's excuse for working with Cadmus was the weakest, blandest, most overused motivation ever(hello Rogue One), it would have been so much better if they actually made him a bit morally ambiguous.

The ending was epic, but I totally would not have minded had this show segued into several weeks of Alex, Lyra and Kevin the Fish Guy's Farscape-like adventures in space trying to get back to Earth.

Unfortunately it brought to mind an earlier episode where Alex said Kara can't fly in space

She wasn't in space yet, the whole point of the exercise was not to let the ship get out of the atmosphere or it would have jumped to lightspeed.

 

[Allyn Gibson]

Considering I said about a week ago...

I wouldn't be surprised if, in season 3, James and CatCo disappear entirely.

...Kara getting sacked from CatCo wasn't a terrible shock to me last night. I wasn't even fussed that James apparently didn't overrule it. I say "apparently," because I not convinced that he would have overruled Carr's decision to fire Kara.

Leave aside the journalistic ethics for a moment. Leave aside Kara's motives. Kara was insubordinate and in violation of her non-compete clause. There were sufficient grounds to terminate Kara right there. If James stepped in and said, "Nope, she was right" and saved her job, he's showing favoritism toward a friend and being a really shitty boss. If James let these infractions slide, he's hobbling himself if someone -- not necessarily Kara -- does something far worse at the company.

Should there have been a conversation between Kara and James, where she pleads her case? Maybe. But it would have turned out little different than the conversation she had with Snapper Carr.

Losing her job sucks for Kara. But, she deserved to be fired for what she did.

 

[Christopher]

Although i'm not fussed with the Kara as a reporter arc finishing...

I doubt her reporter arc is finished, because she did say she considers it her calling. Maybe she'll find a way to continue reporting in some other venue. Maybe she'll take up "blobbing" regularly, or go to work for a rival paper.

I hope we still get to see her in Civilian clothes. Supergirl's costume might show more leg, but dam Melissa looks hot with those glasses and her hair tied back and figure hugging dresses.

Wow finding a woman hotter wearing more rather than less. Padded Cell here I come.

I've honestly never found Melissa Benoist all that beautiful -- she's pleasant-looking but not particuarly alluring -- so I've been free to react to her without my libido getting in the way, which is actually kind of refreshing. My preference for seeing her in Supergirl costume is not because it turns me on, but because it's a great costume that looks both functional and elegant while still being an authentic, classic superhero outfit. And I like it because I like seeing her embrace her hero identity so fully, and because it's a refreshing novelty to see a TV superhero spend more time in costume than in civvies.

 

[doylem1]

I doubt her reporter arc is finished, because she did say she considers it her calling. Maybe she'll find a way to continue reporting in some other venue. Maybe she'll take up "blobbing" regularly, or go to work for a rival paper
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TBH i'd rather they close that Arc and she found a different calling. Clark is and always has been the reporter, Kara needs a different vocation to differentiate herself from her cousin other than a skirt and boobs.
I'm not sure what that different calling maybe but I've mentioned before esp during season 1, that you could easily have switched out Kara for Clark and this could have been a Superman show. Sometimes it felt like it was meant to be, but they couldn't use the Superman character so went with Supergirl instead.[/

 

[Gryffindorian]

I liked the alien deportation plot that parallels immigration issues in the U.S. The only difference is that a sinister covert organization (Cadmus) was doing the deportation, and it was not sanctioned by the government.

The episode was a full house, even Lena, Lillian, and Jeremiah - and James - figured into the story (with Teri Hatcher and Kevin Sorbo making last-minute appearances); the only guest star who could have made this even better is Helen Slater (or Calista Flockhart - and this would have been epic).

 

[Romulan_spy]

Teri Hatcher looked amazing as a Daxomite Queen or whatever she is.

 

[Forbin]

She wasn't in space yet, the whole point of the exercise was not to let the ship get out of the atmosphere or it would have jumped to lightspeed.

That wasn't my point. Read my entire post. The point was her thrusting against the ship, making me wonder HOW she thrusts, given the statement about needing air to do it, and the unfortunate biological image it brought up in my twisted little mind.

 

[TREK_GOD_1]

1. How was Alex able to rig Luthor Corp with explosives without anyone noticing? What kind of Guards were working there, because that's quite a task to rig the whole complex by yourself.

It was plotting convenience--Alex had no time to plant explosives beyond the point where she was apprehended. The showrunners needed to turn her into Super Agent again, so you get the placement of explosives in areas she did not visit.

2. What is the organizational structure of CatCo? I mean James was supposed to still be the CEO of the company right? I ask because James should have stopped in on Kara's behalf, way before she was forced to write her story using competitive social media? The writers are writing Snapper to be the new head of CatCo but that's not entirely accurate. Ok, so what Kara ended up doing was wrong, but it should never have gotten to that point. It's interesting that with as much screen time as James is not getting and how no one seems to care, when he's needed because THAT'S WHO THE CHARACTER IS, he still is nowhere to be found.

Carr has no authority over James--he is the CEO and has final say over the hiring and firing of employees. Once again, taking Kara out of CatCo strongly suggests it is part of the effort to write James out of the series in favor of CW/TeenNick-ing Supergirl to appeal to a certain part of the audience. Without James and his world-wise (for one so young) view, care and compassion, the series loses any sense of maturity and begins to feel like a slightly more adult version of Power Rangers.

"I have to do this myself!" really, Alex? You have to go into the enemy headquarters full of evil henchmen all by yourself? Stupid, stupid writing. Not that Alex isn't damn near a female James Bond, does she isn't a solo agent like him - she has a whole damn organization right there to back her up. But they keep writing her doing stupid, loose-cannon shit.

Yeah, it was stupid writing when the scene needed to focus on the character's most interesting plot--her relationship with her father. The Super Agent push is simply silly in that she never loses to anyone, when its realistic to acknowledge the fact that there are endless numbers of trained agents, lone wolves, et al., who would drop her in a moment, but the series (even in its fantasy setting) refuses to do anything other than make her invincible, which instantly takes the element of danger out of any story.

On the social commentary side, and I do appreciate good social commentary now and again (after all I grew up in the 60s), but not outright propaganda. Remember, the current deportation thing involves only illegal, undocumented immigrants (deportation of whom has been going on under all previous administrations of both parties, including Obama). Presumably everyone on the "alien registry" has their Little Green Man Card.

Of course. In fact, many Latinos often referred to Obama as the "deporter in Chief" because of the mass numbers removed during his term, but no, no, no--according to many in the entertainment business, nothing ever happened until November, 2016. Yes, propaganda (especially from entertainers who clumsily preach sans any sense of truth or history) was dropped like an anvil on this series by those ill-equipped to handle such subject matter, which is rarely a hardline, black and white issue.

And fascist?? Pejorative, partisan, and unsupported.

More of the fact-free whining on the part of the showrunners who need to return to grade school to learn the true meaning of fascism, instead of parroting the current trend of say anything (no matter how asinine) against people they hate.

 

[dahj]

Teri Hatcher looked amazing as a Daxomite Queen or whatever she is.

She's Mom-El

 

[Mudd]

They didn't mind giving the "Prince Mon-El" thing away in the promo for next week, but then they probably give the audience the credit that anyone watching the show who's not catatonic has figured it out.

 

[Snaploud]

James Olsen is supposedly CEO of a worldwide media conglomerate. Snapper Car is editor-in-chief of one magazine within that worldwide media conglomerate. James wouldn't even need to get involved in the hiring/firing at CatCo magazine. He could just move Kara to another news entity (television, for instance) or have the conglomerate buy another news entity if none of the current options have decent commutes (despite her super-speed).

 

[Noname Given]

James Olsen is supposedly CEO of a worldwide media conglomerate. Snapper Car is editor-in-chief of one magazine within that worldwide media conglomerate. James wouldn't even need to get involved in the hiring/firing at CatCo magazine. He could just move Kara to another news entity (television, for instance) or have the conglomerate buy another news entity if none of the current options have decent commutes (despite her super-speed).

The actual issue is: If she was in violation of an employment contract signed with Cat Co media; then James Olsen would look pretty bad 'giving her a pass' by intervening. Snapper didn't fire her out of spite; she violated her terms of employment.

 

[Romulan_spy]

Snapper didn't fire her out of spite; she violated her terms of employment.

Yes, Snapper says as much. This was not a case of Snapper just being a bad guy, he was following the rules set by the employment contract that she signed. There is nothing that James could do about it. Honestly, this is something that was bound to happen to Kara sooner or later. Idealism is great but if you break the rules then there are going to be consequences and you cannot always escape them. Kara knew that publishing that blog was a clear violation of her terms of employment but she did it anyway because she believed it was the moral thing to do it. Morally, she was right of course but it does not give her a pass on the down to earth consequences. Just like activists who protest corrupt governments and get thrown in jail. They are doing the right thing but there are still consequences.

 

[The Old Mixer]

I suspect that Kara's going to wind up working for Lena in some capacity, if only as a temporary arc.

 

[kirk55555]

Breaking the agreement makes sense as a reason to fire her, but that doesn't mean James couldn't rehire her for another branch of CatCo. Plus, it doesn't explain why James didn't just order Snapper to run the story in the first place and prevent all the Kara/Snapper stuff. The only consequence of that might have been Snapper quitting, and considering what was at stake I doubt James would have let that stop him.

 

[Snaploud]

James really needs to take more advantage of his role as CEO. His day job could benefit more people than his night job as Guardian, but it's as if he has a blind spot in thinking only superheroes can make a difference. At least Bruce Wayne had his organization sponsor the occasional charity gala and city rebuilding effort.

 

[Christopher]

James really needs to take more advantage of his role as CEO. His day job could benefit more people than his night job as Guardian, but it's as if he has a blind spot in thinking only superheroes can make a difference.

No, he just thinks that's the way he wants to make a difference, that he's better suited to being a superhero than being a CEO. I'm sure he thinks Cat Grant could do wonderful things as a CEO, but it's not something he thinks he has the knack for.

 

[JanewayRulz!]

Snapper's firing of Kara and James' inability to save her seems more like a foreshadowing of the return Cat to Catco rather than Kara's swan song at same.

Call me childish, but my favorite scene /lines from the Superman movies was that first scene of Superman and Lois as she was falling off the Daily Planet building.

"Don't worry Miss, I've got you."

"You've got me? Who's got you?"

Naturally, you can now guess which scene I loved last night. Supergirl rising into frame carrying Lena Luthor as the bad guys look on, dumbfounded.

I also loved seeing Lena scouring her company for places her mom would co - opt to hide aliens and discovering (us, alas not Lena) that there's a Cadmus spy at L-Corp.

With a few more opportune arrivals / saves like last night, I suspect Maggie won't be the only one to "figure out" Supergirl's identity this season.

Finally, I did like the rocketship / sisterhood scene. It was yet another shout out that no matter what happens to these two, fathers coming and going, significant others cheering or not, new friends circling the perimeter, these two women have a bond that makes each of them reach beyond their perceived potentials to do the impossible for one another.

Lucy Lawless discussed this idea in her own superhero tv series. That in each crazy episode she and Renee always tried to find the heart of the series, that bond between two great women. Melissa and Chyler have each addressed a similar idea that in this show, the dominant couple was never (in season 1) Kara & Wynn, or Kara and James, or Kara and Cat, it was always the sisters... Kara and Alex.

Call me childish, but I love that idea.

 

[DigificWriter]

Calista Flockhart is, unfortunately, not coming back to the show this season. They tried to make things work out and just weren't able to.

 

[Reverend]

I rather think saving Kara from a firing would have somewhat undermined the point about how journalists must conduct themselves ethically, with verified sources and due diligence and NOT shoot from the hip because they *know* they're right. She was fired for good reason.