Spoilers Supergirl - Season 2
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They did? Because the consensus here seems to be that it was very poorly handled and made everyone in the DEO look like idiots.
Too many clichés on this episode, i.e., the long-lost family man who was reunited with everyone but turned out to be a traitor; the paranoid team member who turned out to be right about his suspicions; the closed-minded character who allowed her emotions instead of common sense to prevail, etc. I've seen them numerous times in dozens of movies and on various TV shows. Overall, this was not a bad episode, just uninspired and unoriginal. Glad to know at least Kara finally got laid.
This episode made Kara, Alex, and Jonn look like idiots and I don't appreciate that. I watch this show because the character stuff is usually great but this episode felt like watching characters impersonating our heroes. Yes, I get they missed thier father, but they work for an agency that is outside the government purview, and after watching what Cadmus is capable of, this episode felt really off.
The only thing I did like was the action scenes at the end, Kara doing the railroad track thing, and the emotional betrayal at the end. I wish they would have come up with a different way to have the same emotional betrayal but not make out heroes look like idiots in the process.
The only thing I did like was the action scenes at the end, Kara doing the railroad track thing, and the emotional betrayal at the end. I wish they would have come up with a different way to have the same emotional betrayal but not make out heroes look like idiots in the process.
I'm glad that they're picking this up next week instead of having another long stretch before Jeremiah appears again.
Maybe next week will make tonight's episode a little better.
I don't think the writers expected the audience to be one bit less suspicious of Jeremiah than Mon-El was - on the contrary, the point of the story is to get the viewers into his corner early and for them to suffer with him...while the writers, of course, take the opportunity to put all the characters' relationships through the wringer again.
Jeremiah's betrayal of the DEO does not bother me at all because I fully expect he will turn out to be a good guy in the end.
I really liked Winn's line to Mon El about watching too many episodes of "24". It was a great reference considering this episode had a lot of similar elements. Faking your rescue to get back inside HQ only to betray your own, is a very "24" thing.
I really liked Winn's line to Mon El about watching too many episodes of "24". It was a great reference considering this episode had a lot of similar elements. Faking your rescue to get back inside HQ only to betray your own, is a very "24" thing.
Does anyone else think Lyra will turn out to be an alien bounty hunter using Winn to get to Mon-El? She was so studiously uninterested in Mon-El that I wondered if it was a misdirect. After all, everything in a story is presumably there for a reason, and they gave us two scenes of Lyra and Mon-El (barely) interacting.
Given some things that I've seen/read that came directly from Andrew Kreisberg and Jeremy Jordan, the answer to this is a big fat "No".
Lyra and Winn's relationship is genuine, although it's not going to be drama-free by any means.
With Hank being the biggest idiot of all: so he only discovered he cannot read Jeremiah's thoughts when the latter was committing his crime? There no excuse for the juvenile plotting having Hank not attempt to read Daddy Danvers' thoughts as early as his rescue.
The "A" plot seemed to only serve the typically immature CW pot of having (at its end) Mon-El be correct in Kara's eyes.
Well, though he seemed to be a visual rip of the MCE Winter Soldier, at least that film's character was not immune to pain or injury as seen in the second Captain America film.
Yes, it was poorly handled, all to--as mentioned to Serveaux--have Mon-El be correct about something. The only decent takeaway was Alex and her conflict over her father. No matter what Kara says, she will never have the bond to Jeremiah that his true daughter has, nor can she understand the sense of betrayal and confusion Alex feels. All the reason the Jeremiah plot should not end with his being a simple double agent who is set to destroy Cadmus, nor should he be partially supportive of Cadmus only to pull a Return of the Jedi/Vader & sacrifice himself to save Alex. That would leave SG in a "I told you so" position, and its back to all-you-need-is-your-sister.
Hey, at least the bad guys aren't throwing their empty guns at the bulletproof Kryptonian like they did on the old George Reeves. TV show.
Seriously, this is just a convention of SUPERMAN and its spin-offs, like a pair of glasses being a foolproof disguise. It kinda comes with the territory, and has for over seventy-five years now.
During Mrs. Luthor's scene, I said to my wife, "She really needs to grow a mustache to twirl."
And yeah, Alex and J'onn were acting totally unprofessional and out of character. Also out of the bounds of reality (I know, I know, it's a comic book) - but (just to go all Cold War) can anyone imagine a US agent coming back from long-term Soviet captivity and going right back to work? There would be, at the least, a lengthy closed-room debriefing by higher-ups lasting many days, and a careful psych eval. One of my coworkers was laid off a few years ago, and recently rehired. It took three months for her to get her security clearance back. And we're just a systems contractor.
And yeah, Alex and J'onn were acting totally unprofessional and out of character. Also out of the bounds of reality (I know, I know, it's a comic book) - but (just to go all Cold War) can anyone imagine a US agent coming back from long-term Soviet captivity and going right back to work? There would be, at the least, a lengthy closed-room debriefing by higher-ups lasting many days, and a careful psych eval. One of my coworkers was laid off a few years ago, and recently rehired. It took three months for her to get her security clearance back. And we're just a systems contractor.
Hey, at least the bad guys aren't throwing their empty guns at the bulletproof Kryptonian like they did on the old George Reeves. TV show.
Seriously, this is just a convention of SUPERMAN and its spin-offs, like a pair of glasses being a foolproof disguise. It kinda comes with the territory, and has for over seventy-five years now.
Yeah, but I grew tired of the bullet schitck during his Golden Age stories. It was always refreshing when ordinary humans developed superior weapons (to guns) to challenge Superman, as it forced him to find alternate/creative solutions, instead of standing there, chest barreled out, while bullets ricocheted off his "S" shield.
You're very generous. Again, I hate the BIG 'idiot ball' episodes where we even have Alex going: "So he broke into the mainframe..he's my Dad, so that's okay...you've just a hater, and you're either with us or against us..."
I mean you KNOW the episode is going to be contrived when Mon-El is the smart one in it.
Hey, at least the bad guys aren't throwing their empty guns at the bulletproof Kryptonian like they did on the old George Reeves. TV show.
Seriously, this is just a convention of SUPERMAN and its spin-offs, like a pair of glasses being a foolproof disguise. It kinda comes with the territory, and has for over seventy-five years now.
true, but you would think CADMUS agents would either be armed with weapons that could do something (synthetic Kryptonite bullets - since they already established CADMUS doesn't have access to the real stuff -- Red Sun lasers
or something.) When they pulled out the AK-47's and Supergirl just flew on in I was like <yawn>.
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Should we be putting "Mon-El" in quotes at this point? It's been plainly established that he's not who he says he is, and implied that Supergirl might know about who he really is.
The Legion geek in me is wondering if maybe he's really Dev-Em (originally a Kryptonian J.D., temporarily retconned as a Daxamite post-Crisis).
The Legion geek in me is wondering if maybe he's really Dev-Em (originally a Kryptonian J.D., temporarily retconned as a Daxamite post-Crisis).
He's the mistrustful one, which makes sense in terms of the characters (though not in terms of their putative occupations).
I'm also suspicious of Winn's girlfriend...it seems like there's a shoe waiting to drop there.
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