http://trekcore.com/blog/2017/02/moonves-predicts-star-trek-discovery-will-debut-in-early-fall/
Late summer, early fall.
Late summer, early fall.
Les Moonves predicts early fall Discovery premiere
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Yeah, because Moonves loves sci-fi so much and we should trust him. 
Moonves loves profit - and since Season one of ST : D has already paid for itself via the international and Netflix licensing deals - he does actually need to release it to make good - and make a profit.Yeah, because Moonves loves sci-fi so much and we should trust him.
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Moonless is in a position to know.
Only Trekkies can make TV executives into supervillains.
No doubt your skepticism is as well-founded as was your dismissal of the January shooting date.
Only Trekkies can make TV executives into supervillains.
No doubt your skepticism is as well-founded as was your dismissal of the January shooting date.
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Thanks Les...now how 'bout some pics?
12 years and 24 days now since Lesley decided to have 'em cut off.
Probably sometime in August or September then.
And really, we were lucky to get that fourth season, because the third season ratings were low enough to justify cancelling the show then.
Yes and a Q3 release means subscriptions to CBSAA in Q3 which means revenue for Q3.
Also possible but not probably a blu-ray release of season 1 by end of year. Usually that would be late November to get Christmas holiday shopping season but 13 weeks would be early December end of run if it starts first week in September. I highly doubt they will release a Blu-ray that early. more like 4 months after the first run ends on CBSAA.
^I don't know about that, Netflix released Season 1 of Daredevil to their streaming service on April 10, 2015, and then didn't release it home video until November 8, 2016 in the US.
I wouldn't be surprised if they did something similar with Discovery, they're going to want to get as much money as they possibly can for All Access before they do a home video release.
I got pissed for second, because IGN said it was delayed again, but then I realized they never actually announced a new release date, so there couldn't be a delay.
It actually seems like a pretty good amount of time to get things done. They only started filming a month ago, and this is going to require a lot of post production.
I wouldn't be surprised if they did something similar with Discovery, they're going to want to get as much money as they possibly can for All Access before they do a home video release.
I got pissed for second, because IGN said it was delayed again, but then I realized they never actually announced a new release date, so there couldn't be a delay.
It actually seems like a pretty good amount of time to get things done. They only started filming a month ago, and this is going to require a lot of post production.
I'm not going to derail this conversation or anything, but The CW would kill to have Enterprise on its network today with even its lowest ratings. Even when ENT was on the bubble it was one of their higher rated shows, the damn thing just cost too much to look as beautiful as at it, but I'm sure Coto and co could've got that cost down further again in season five.
Anyway, great news regarding Discovery. Can't wait to see this.
For a series that "tanked as hard as a series could", it still pulled in more viewers than Battlestar. In fact, at one point in 2006 a syndicated rerun from Season 1 on SyFy, had a higher viewing figure than a brand-new episode of BSG.
I doubt streaming figures would be disclosed, but it would certainly interesting to see how the numbers watching Discovery aren't significantly better than those Enterprise achieved at one point or another. The only difference is they'll now be paying for the privilege of being the first to see new Star Trek that's all...
Anyway I'd sooner get back to looking forward to the prospect of the new show, rather than dwelling on Moonves dropping these obvious slights against previous Treks into conversation. Picking off potential fans interested in Discovery, by causing offence intentional or not, doesn't strike me as good business sense. Unite, not divide eh?
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So what? It was on broadcast, in an entirely different venue and being financed differently. They were losing money with every episode.
I loved the show and will defend it to the death, but Bomb is Bomb. It would have been absurd for Paramount to keep pouring money into the show.
And...the last phrase is of course the operative one.
No, The CW would not kill to have a show with those ratings at that expense on the network today. There's no evidence whatever that Coto was some kind of financial wizard producer who could have gotten the budget down further, either.
Discovery will likely get the lowest ratings in the US that a Trek show has ever got, given I find it unlikely it will pull in over two million subscribers to CBS All access. But CBS knew this going on, which is one reason they've put it behind a pay wall, and why they sold the global rights to Netflix the way they did. Enterprise's North American numbers for Discovery would be bloody great news for them, if we are honest.
It will be interesting to see what Netflix are expecting from this. They obviously have numbers from the existing Trek shows, and know what else Trek fans watch on their service, so they'd only pay what was a suitable price for them, which in this case was a substantial sum. We know they wouldn't over pay, given how they negotiated with Clarkson and co when they left Top Gear.
Although Netflix don't release viewing figures, there's been various studies to suggest that Daredevil was posting just over four million viewers in its first season during its immediate launch window, and that show was called a big success. Whether those numbers are at all accurate, and whether they are global figures or just North American numbers, remains to be seen.
If we are honest, if CBS can get Netflix to keep stumping up the same fee each year, all they'll truly care about is its international audience, not it's US one. For probably the first time ever, it's a Trek shows performance OUTSIDE of the US that will be of most importance to its survival.
Something about the title of this thread (predicts) made me visualize ol' Les as a groundhog, popping up to see his shadow and if he doesn't see his shadow, SIX MORE MONTHS UNTIL DISCOVERY! If he does see his shadow, sorry folks. We have to wait until 2018 to see Discovery.
That means the 2 big ones for marketing season 1.
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