Not "one producer" but the creator of the show. HUGE difference.
First look at Klingons in 'Star Trek: Discovery'?
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Not "one producer" but the creator of the show. HUGE difference.
A hired creator/showrunner - which is itself a HUGE difference from someone who brings a property to the studio. Fuller was always working for Kurtzman, whose production company has the contract with CBS and who not inconsequentially was one of the architects of nuTrek.
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as for Janeway's ready-room, Voyager had run out of Lithium and green is very...calming
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as for Janeway's ready-room, Voyager had run out of Lithium and green is very...calming
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Ha ha, Christ you're willing top make an excuse for anything. Fuller explicitly stated that the show was designed to fit into the Prime timeline. That means it has to retain a certain uniformity, unless, as someone who has previous worked on Trek, you're claiming that he nonetheless doesn't know have loyal Trek fans are to the detailed universe? Now, unless his leaving the show is because they basically ignored that and went off in another direction, I think it's pretty clear that his intention was not to go off on a wild tangent. So, like I said above, there needs to be an in universe explanation of why they look different if indeed they are Klingons. The Trek universe is too detailed now....and one would think that judging by the delta shield details and the design lineage that we've already seen elsewhere, they're not just going cavalier and dumping the baby out with the bathwater.
What makes me laugh more than anything is your frankly somewhat pathetic labouring to explain away as acceptable any change they make without actually knowing if indeed they have made that change. I mean seriously, look how many posts you've made on this! What your motivation is for doing so at this stage of the game is beyond me.
As someone who never watched really watched the original Doctor Who and does not have Nostalgia on his side. They really SHOULD have reimagined the Daleks. They are by far the most ridiculous alien species I have ever seen. They have a plunger and a stick for hands.
Story wise sure, visually? Were you really expecting everything to look like "The Cage"?
You mean BBC didn't update the Daleks? There's no way they kept those 60's salt and pepper shakers! That wouldn't work with modern audiences! Right? RIGHT?
When they changed the Klingons so radically from the original series to what they look like now, they did not bother giving any kind of explanation though did they? Not until years later when they explained it, it seemed, not because they needed to but simply because they wanted to. And it was a pretty silly explanation at that.
So really, who cares. They look pretty cool.
So really, who cares. They look pretty cool.
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No, the studio stated that the series "took place in" in the Prime Timeline and little else. Fuller himself said several times things would be visually altered. "Prime" was thrown out there to placate the tiny extremely vocal angry minority they always have to deal with each time something new from Trek has come out since 1987.
There was a contest. I don't think it lead anywhere. Then they did redesign them, more radically than previously, and no one liked the iDalek. You can just about get away with the plunger and stick by pointing out it's basically a one man tank or submarine....then Cgi makes the plunger more impressive, following on from the eighties approach to it being a sort of sensor data port think. (When you think about it....they are basically R2 with a blob in.)
Mind you...the redesigned Cybermen were the worst in many years under RTD, so maybe it's best all they did was paint them and detail them. Who always evolved its non-biological recurring creatures, I think only the various pre-human earth species got radical redesigns on the body for the new series, the old ones didn't get updated much for reappearances (apart from some helmets on the sea-devils.)
I think I remember hearing he grew it between seasons, and when Gene saw it, he thought it was Nautical looking, and so he kept it
Not really. I am more nineties Trek than TOS purist, and I and many others still prefer it to be in the long established continuity. Part of what makes Trek fun, and makes things like anniversaries worthwhile for the show, is that it is one tapestry unfolding over many many years worked on by different people. Not a tea towel collection produced under license, which is what reboots are in that extended metaphor. And the only thing that ever makes me angry about reboots, is the nonsense that people trot out to justify them, which usually, basically, comes down to a straight mix of laziness and bandwagon jumping. Good reboots aren't done for that reason, and are pretty rare....BSG for example. Different adaptations of a source material also go in different directions, but they aren't reboots anyway.
They were to us at the time. I particularly like the Nemesis version. The Cybusmen looked like cartoons based on the seventies version with added seventies flares. They were robots, not cyborgs. Clank clank clank.
Those are...not great, but I only looked at the BajorAns. And it misses the point...some of them are more humanlike not only because that's the established look, in part established by budget and available tech, but also because of Treks intrinsic use of aliens to represent some aspect of humans. That's before you get onto the fact that in some cases you require them to be Love interests etc, and while Trek is many things to many people, I don't think the furry community was one of its targets. And even they get M'Ress.
Cool is a point of view...regardless of whether they are redesigned Klingons or not, I actually don't think they are that good to be honest. Better than some previous alien designs...worse than most of the main featured ones over the years though.
Personally, I was much more satisfied with Worf's non-explanation of it by simply saying "...It's a long story" in 'Trials and Tribblations' than I was the augment virus explanation from 'Voyager'.
Edit to correct:
I meant 'Enterprise', not 'Voyager' (thanks, jaime).
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