Nu Trek ships retrofitted back to Prime Trek

[JJohnson]

Hi Everyone,

I was wondering if anyone had taken the time to take the 2009 movie's ships and retrofitted them back into TOS and TMP styling. I know the Kelvin got this:

But is there a version of this /\ with the Motion-Picture-style nacelle, saucer, secondary hull?

And here are a few more listed:

Armstrong class
Kobayashi Maru
Newton Class

 

[David cgc]

I always liked Michael Riehl's TMP-era Newton-class.

 

[Smoked Salmon]

Isn't the Kelvin a prime ship already?

 

[F. King Daniel]

Isn't the Kelvin a prime ship already?

Yeah, but I think the OP meant more about making the more modern designs look as though they were made for 60's or 80's Trek.

 

[JJohnson]

Yeah, but I think the OP meant more about making the more modern designs look as though they were made for 60's or 80's Trek.

You got it. Essentially, backfit them into original Star Trek.

 

[JJohnson]

Isn't the Kelvin a prime ship already?

Not originally. It's a nuTrek ship, from the Star Trek (2009) movie. I found this image online, and I like how it fit much more readily into the TOS aesthetic.

 

[137th Gebirg]

^^^ SS meant the Kelvin predates the split between the Prime Universe and the Abramsverse and was both present and directly involved when the split occurred. So, in a sense, it's both.

 

[JasonJ]

OK, well here's one then.. USS Vengeance as a prime-timeline TOS era vessel. Go.

 

[Kor]

^^^ SS meant the Kelvin predates the split between the Prime Universe and the Abramsverse and was both present and directly involved when the split occurred. So, in a sense, it's both.

But then there was the idea (from Simon Pegg?) that Nero's temporal incursion actually caused ripples and changes in the timeline both forwards and backwards in time.

Kor

 

[JasonJ]

But then there was the idea (from Simon Pegg?) that Nero's temporal incursion actually caused ripples and changes in the timeline both forwards and backwards in time.

Kor

Which fits with more modern theories about how that would actually happen (again, theoretically and hypothetically). If we think of space-time as a fabric, as it's often portrayed, it seems to reason that if something poked through or jumped around on/in it, there would be affects noticed throughout the entire thing.

 

[Kemaiku]

Yeah, but I think the OP meant more about making the more modern designs look as though they were made for 60's or 80's Trek.

I'd rather they didn't. Making everything so generic is boring, the Kelvin was fun because she's something different from an era we already know about, something not as polished or slimmed down.

 

[F. King Daniel]

But then there was the idea (from Simon Pegg?) that Nero's temporal incursion actually caused ripples and changes in the timeline both forwards and backwards in time.

Kor

Which I think is much more to do with Star Trek: Discovery covering roughly the same era but being developed by a totally different creative team, than how time travel would "really" work. With totally separate timelines, the ST: Discovery people don't have to worry about how the USS Franklin fits in to their backstory, or the Kelvin movie people don't need to make their Klingon backstory mesh with whatever new stuff the other guys establish.

This way there are no continuity errors, just ripples in the time-stream.

 

[Smoked Salmon]

Which I think is much more to do with Star Trek: Discovery covering roughly the same era but being developed by a totally different creative team, than how time travel would "really" work. With totally separate timelines, the ST: Discovery people don't have to worry about how the USS Franklin fits in to their backstory, or the Kelvin movie people don't need to make their Klingon backstory mesh with whatever new stuff the other guys establish.

This way there are no continuity errors, just ripples in the time-stream.

Then why did Fuller go to the effort of saying Discovery was prime timeline if he knew fans would be fussy about that sort of thing?

 

[F. King Daniel]

Then why did Fuller go to the effort of saying Discovery was prime timeline if he knew fans would be fussy about that sort of thing?

To be honest, I'm not sure. With the visual reimagining they're doing, I'm not sure how "prime universe" it's going to be.

 

[E-DUB]

Well then, the "TOS" style Kelvin can be from a timeline where the Xindi attack never happened.

 

[AdmiralGreg]

in Axanar, the Korolev class is pretty much a TOS style armstrong.

 

[F. King Daniel]

in Axanar, the Korolev class is pretty much a TOS style armstrong.

Most of the Axanar Federation ships are copied directly from the Kelvin movies, with TOS-style nacelles attached.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

But then there was the idea (from Simon Pegg?) that Nero's temporal incursion actually caused ripples and changes in the timeline both forwards and backwards in time.

Pegg can say whatever he wants, but it's just an idea. They haven't actually put that into a film. So effectively it doesn't exist.

Then why did Fuller go to the effort of saying Discovery was prime timeline if he knew fans would be fussy about that sort of thing?

There's always those who are fussy about something. So whatever the showrunners do, they literally cannot win.

 

[137th Gebirg]

It could be argued that the ripples did occur in reverse as well. Kirk was born in Iowa (Riverside) in the prime universe but born on the Kelvin and grew up in Iowa in the JJverse. So there is one example of a slight difference pre-Kelvin/Narada.

 

[FormerLurker]

In the JJVerse, Jim Kirk was born in a shuttle craft, as a preemie. He had been intended to be born in Iowa, but Nero happened. That is an example of post Kelvin/Narada only.