Changes between broadcast and VHS/DVD/Blu Ray

[Kor]

When TOS was released in the two-episode per DVD format, the cover for COTEOF had a notice that some music differed from the broadcast version. Presumably, this meant that it would have the godawful replacement instead of "Goodnight, Sweetheart." But, in fact, it did have "Goodnight, Sweetheart."

Kor

 

[Indysolo]

Right. I still have somewhere an audio cassette from one of the first ten episodes from season one, when the original electronic violin theme was used (again, before the theme was later changed to the strings version) where immediately after Shatner says, "These are the voyages.....", there is NO break between that and "It's five year mission", but then a big pause before the next "To explore...." line. The music didn't break any, so something happened there with just the dialogue track.

I lived near Philadelphia, PA at that time and had recorded most of my VHS Trek from "WPHL TV Channel 17 Philadelphia" which would air the reruns everyday after I would finish school. I think the start time was 4 PM. Problem was that they only aired seasons two and three for ages and then finally season one, but it took at least a year before they started showing season one. The audio I spoke above though was in the days before I had a VCR, so not sure what channel that would have been. It may have been the same channel.

The earlier channel in that area was channel 48.

Neil

 

[Ssosmcin]

I miss the syndie years, sometimes. having to wait for a station to air the show, rather than having it at my fingertips on home-video and streaming. Not that I'm complaining, it was just more exciting then. when we had our antenna rotor that was able to bring in Connecticut stations, and we found WTNH, which ran Trek uncut with previews and I Dream of Jeannie. Good times...

 

[J.T.B.]

I miss the syndie years, sometimes. having to wait for a station to air the show, rather than having it at my fingertips on home-video and streaming. Not that I'm complaining, it was just more exciting then.

Yes. Often frustrating, but also more rewarding. When you caught a rarely-seen episode, it was an event!

 

[ZapBrannigan]

I miss the syndie years, sometimes. having to wait for a station to air the show, rather than having it at my fingertips on home-video and streaming. Not that I'm complaining, it was just more exciting then. when we had our antenna rotor that was able to bring in Connecticut stations, and we found WTNH, which ran Trek uncut with previews and I Dream of Jeannie. Good times...

For me it was a huge struggle to pull in Star Trek on a Canadian station every Saturday, on a b&w set with rabbit ears. CFTO and later CBLT. Lots of snow, not so much picture. Then we got a color TV and roof antenna with rotor, and it was all so clear! Either way, getting to see the show was the whole meaning and purpose of that day. Everything else was just real life.

Yes. Often frustrating, but also more rewarding. When you caught a rarely-seen episode, it was an event!

Scarcity gave Star Trek an extra measure power that today's young fans will never know.

 

[Ssosmcin]

Sitting there with my tape recorder propped up against the TV speaker, telling everybody in my family to be quiet for the next hour. With only TV Guide there to give me a hint of what episode might be on the next night.

 

[Green]

I remember it was not until 1976 -- 6 years after I started watching TOS -- that I finally saw the last episode I hadn't yet seen.* I was sitting with my girlfriend who was also a huge Trek fan in her folks TV room after school and on came "The Omega Glory". I Nearly jumped out of my seat. She thought I was a little crazy -- 41 years later she still does. We watched "Corbomite Maneuver" last Sunday.

*I only knew there was one I hadn't seen because of the "World of Star Trek" book had a list of episodes.

 

[Green]

when we had our antenna rotor that was able to bring in Connecticut stations, and we found WTNH, which ran Trek uncut with previews and I Dream of Jeannie. Good times...[/QUOTE]

So this compelling and nostalgic story it discovered to be a lie because as we all know "Good Times" aired many years later. Shame for jogging fond memories under false pretenses.

 

[Green]

Can't believe I randomly found a piece of footage.......

Was the deleted section of this YouTube clip ever in any release? The two seconds at the beginning which were cut because a random crewman ignores Kirk fighting Thelev? I always thought that if was from the teaser, but it isn't and therefore it may have at one time appeared as part of the episode itself.
And now I wonder where I saw it originally all those years ago -- it sure wasn't on YouTube.
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[Green]

Can you imagine Spock questioning the crewman.

"Ensign, why did you fail to assist the Captain?"
"I had my back turned -- I didn't know he was being attacked!"
"You couldn't hear a life of death struggle less than 7 meters away?"
"Meters, sir?"
"Yes, Ensign, meters -- an alternate unit of measurement we sometimes don't use, but instead inexplicably use the archaic Imperial system. Don't change the subject."
"Oh, ah, yes sir --I heard but I thought it was some of the crew joking around!"
"Have you previously observed Enterprise crewmembers engaged in hand to hand combat in the corridor?"
"No, I, I...."
"Speak up Ensign, the Captain lies gravely injured and you cannot explain why you did nothing."
"I'm deathly afraid of insects -- I saw those antennae and panicked!"
"An Andorian is not an insect, Ensign and you allowed your primitive..."
McCoy -- "That's enough Spock you've made your point."
Spock -- "Confine yourself to quarters until further notice."

 

[Ssosmcin]

So this compelling and nostalgic story it discovered to be a lie because as we all know "Good Times" aired many years later. Shame for jogging fond memories under false pretenses.

Well played.

Even though, Good Times did indeed run in the late 70's when I was watching Star Trek in syndication.

 

[Ssosmcin]

Can't believe I randomly found a piece of footage.......

Was the deleted section of this YouTube clip ever in any release? The two seconds at the beginning which were cut because a random crewman ignores Kirk fighting Thelev? I always thought that if was from the teaser, but it isn't and therefore it may have at one time appeared as part of the episode itself.
And now I wonder where I saw it originally all those years ago -- it sure wasn't on YouTube.
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That's damned cool. And funny timing because we're discussing this fight in another thread. Sad about the ensign, because the fight starts pretty excitingly this way. The tracking camera is really effective. I can see why they didn't keep the master shot after Kirk wins. Shatner's belly is a little prominent. And you know, the whole "don't show the navel" thing.

Always loved this fight was all in one take.

 

[ZapBrannigan]

One thing that stands out in that scene, especially with Kirk injured, is how high they mounted the intercom. In the U.S. today, it would be against Federal law to put the only one that high on the wall.

 

[Green]

Yes, what of one of those little copper colored aliens had to call for help. Poor bastards trying to hop up and reach the button!

 

[johnnybear]

Sitting there with my tape recorder propped up against the TV speaker, telling everybody in my family to be quiet for the next hour. With only TV Guide there to give me a hint of what episode might be on the next night.

I was a tad luckier than you because we had a portable set with an earphones socket which allowed us to record the soundtrack without banning anyone from the room! Unfortunately in later years the set did develop a nasty hum which did come out on the recordings!
JB

 

[johnnybear]

I remember it was not until 1976 -- 6 years after I started watching TOS -- that I finally saw the last episode I hadn't yet seen.* I was sitting with my girlfriend who was also a huge Trek fan in her folks TV room after school and on came "The Omega Glory". I Nearly jumped out of my seat. She thought I was a little crazy -- 41 years later she still does. We watched "Corbomite Maneuver" last Sunday.

*I only knew there was one I hadn't seen because of the "World of Star Trek" book had a list of episodes.

Women never understand their man's need for a little sci-fi in their life, especially when there is washing up or hovering to do!
JB

 

[Talos IV]

Aside from The Cage, (which is worthy of its own thread on this), syndication cuts, the new CGI effects, and the jigged around season one theme title music, what changes have there been between original broadcast, and VHS and beyond?

Doomsday Machine and re-recorded Corbomite and Mudd's Women music replace three opening music cues in The Menagerie, Part II. The opening teaser, (Corbomite re-recording), Act 1, (Doomsday Machine, original) and Act 2, (Mudd's Women re-recording).

An added 'sting' from the Rigel Fortress music is laid onto the soundtrack as Pike first appears in the illusion. This wasn't present on the original broadcast of The Menagerie.

The condensed Max's Factor music as Vina is restored to beauty, has been re-edited to create a smoother transition, for the DVDs and beyond, of The Menagerie, Part II.

That replacement music in The Menagerie has bothered me for years. Once upon a time I had a Super 8 print of both parts, and the night-of-broadcast music was intact. There's currently a 16mm print of both parts for sale on eBay -- faded color, but I'll bet the original music is there.

 

[Noname Given]

Can't believe I randomly found a piece of footage.......

Was the deleted section of this YouTube clip ever in any release? The two seconds at the beginning which were cut because a random crewman ignores Kirk fighting Thelev? I always thought that if was from the teaser, but it isn't and therefore it may have at one time appeared as part of the episode itself.
And now I wonder where I saw it originally all those years ago -- it sure wasn't on YouTube.
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Interesting and yes, I agree that little snippet changes the perception of kirk because with the snippet restored we SEE Thelev surprise Kirk. With the snippet removed - that missing bit makes it feel like the camera popped in in the middle of the fight - not the start.

 

[Ssosmcin]

I know this thread is going to be locked because of how much time between the posts, but I am very happy you posted that eBay link. hopefully I will win it, but if anybody else here does and they're able to make a transfer of it please reach out to me.

 

[1001001]

That replacement music in The Menagerie has bothered me for years. Once upon a time I had a Super 8 print of both parts, and the night-of-broadcast music was intact. There's currently a 16mm print of both parts for sale on eBay -- faded color, but I'll bet the original music is there.

Please take a moment to review the posting rules pinned at the top of this forum. This thread has been dead for over 4 years.

I'll leave this one open since it has new and relevant content, but next time please link the old thread and start a new one, as the rules state.

Thanks