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MeTV's SuperSci-Fi Saturday Night

New on the charts, as I promised (threatened?) RJD upthread:
I'm girding my loins....

"On the Radio," Donna Summer
Now this is just lovely. I love the line, "It must have fallen out of a hole in your old brown overcoat." This should be on that list.

Don't say I never do anything for you, man!)
:D

"With a Little Luck," Wings
Funny how this guy has the same name as one of The Beatles.

"You're the One That I Want," Olivia Newton-John & John Travolta
Ow. Ow. Ow.

"Miss You," The Rolling Stones
Now these guys still got it. This is a song that always reminds me of Dorchester, even though I had moved several years before, because of the line about Puerto Rican girls.

"Le Freak," Chic
:wah:

And with these offerings we (mostly) bid adieu to the 1970s, forging ahead into the new decade....
My favorite decade, but it didn't end well.
 
"On the Radio," Donna Summer

^ Summer's best. This melancholy track also served as the main and end title theme to the Jodie Foster teen drama Foxes.


"With a Little Luck," Wings

Arguably, Paul's last quality song--certainly that holds true for the Wings project. He ended his Beatle-free decade not only as the most successful of the once-Fab Four, but one of the biggest acts of the decade. His high-points being the Band on the Run album, and the Wings world tour culminating in the near-flawless triple live album, Wings Over America.


"Miss You," The Rolling Stones

Similar to the McCartney song, "Miss You"--and the Some Girls album make the case for the last hurrah of The Rolling Stones. Managing to enter the 70s with strength after a nasty, tragedy-battered 1969, the group continued to transform themselves, exploring new--and some old territory, so they were anything other than just a 60s survivor. I'll never agree that they were the "world's greatest rock 'n' roll band"--they were just in the running for the title, with this 1978 album adding fairly solid weight to the argument..

"Le Freak," Chic

Chic saw better days with "Dance, Dance, Dance (Yowsah, Yowsah, Yowsah)" from 1977..

And with these offerings we (mostly) bid adieu to the 1970s, forging ahead into the new decade....

Beware....
 
I love the line, "It must have fallen out of a hole in your old brown overcoat."
That's your problem with disco right there...you're listening to the words? :p

Funny how this guy has the same name as one of The Beatles.
Wingo?

Ow. Ow. Ow.
For the record, I wasn't going for quality there, but for the first and most successful single from Grease, which looms large in '70s retro, and my own memory of the Summer of '78. (I loved the film as a kid, but could have done with less of it in the '90s.)

"Miss You"--and the Some Girls album make the case for the last hurrah of The Rolling Stones.
Hmmm...no love for Tattoo You? "Start Me Up"? "Waiting on a Friend"? (I'll save the videos, they'll be coming up within the timeframe of the show.) Personally, I'm fond of the singles from 1980's Emotional Rescue, but I could see where they might be considered a step down after Some Girls.

"Beast of Burden," which ranked a little higher on "that list" but not on the charts, was also a contender for this week's post, but "Miss You" has long been a favorite of mine, and had a genuine video from the era, and contributed to this week's offerings being a nice, neat collection of #1's.

Chic saw better days with "Dance, Dance, Dance (Yowsah, Yowsah, Yowsah)" from 1977.
Don't tempt me...we might lose RJ.... :lol:
 
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Arguably, Paul's last quality song--certainly that holds true for the Wings project.
I'd give that title to "Maybe I'm Amazed." Possibly "Let 'em In," if I'm feeling cranky. :rommie:

Similar to the McCartney song, "Miss You"--and the Some Girls album make the case for the last hurrah of The Rolling Stones.
Really? I thought they stayed strong well into the 80s.

That's your problem with disco right there...you're listening to the words? :p
Good point. Disco should not be judged by the same standards as Simon & Garfunkel. :rommie:

Bingo.

For the record, I wasn't going for quality there, but for the first and most successful single from Grease, which looms large in '70s retro, and my own memory of the Summer of '78. (I loved the film as a kid, but could have done with less of it in the '90s.)
I hated Grease. :rommie: Between Olivia Newton-John's awkward attempt to transform from sensitive songstress to sultry sex symbol and the always-unwelcome presence of John Travolta, Grease pretty much epitomized the utter wrongness of the late 70s.

Hmmm...no love for Tattoo You? "Start Me Up"? "Waiting on a Friend"?
Both good ones. Actually, when I think of 80s Rolling Stones, it's "Undercover of the Night" that comes to mind first.

"Beast of Burden," which ranked a little higher on "that list" but not on the charts, was also a contender for this week's post, but "Miss You" has long been a favorite of mine, and had a genuine video from the era, and contributed to this week's offerings being a nice, neat collection of #1's.
I never liked "Beast of Burden," though. I didn't even like Bette Midler's cover, and I love Bette Midler.

Don't tempt me...we might lose RJ.... :lol:
I've survived this long.... :D
 
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The Incredible Hulk
"Proof Positive"--

Jack McGee suffers from a nightmare of being pursued by the one thing he cannot catch--the Hulk. At the Register offices, reporter Garland eagerly tells editor Mark Roberts that McGee has missed yet another assignment thanks to his chasing Hulk leads. Roberts calls McGee in just in time to meet the publisher's daughter--and his interim replacement--Patricia Steinhauer, a headstrong, intelligent young woman full of ideas about the future of the Register--among such ideas--no more Hulk stories.

Patricia: "We can get a broader readership base and at the same time, keep the American housewife--who by the way--has been highly underestimated."
McGee: "Err...what sort of changes?"
Patricia: "I plan to increase our circulation, and at the same time, put out a publication to be proud of."
McGee: "What sort of changes?"

Patricia studies McGee for a moment.

Patricia: "I don't like being interrupted, mister McGee. We're changing the tone of the Register. We're taking out the trash...no more fad diets, no more predictions, no more flying saucers unless they're spotted by the Air Force. We're going hard news all the way."
McGee: "Terrific--"
Roberts: "Jack, I don't think you realize--".
Patricia: "Now, you'll still work on some of your current assignment--the senator/secretary for example--great story, Id really like to nail this guy--"
McGee: "Ahh actually, I've got a couple of very strong leads on the Hulk right now--I'd like to stick with those."
Patricia: "Mister McGee, I thought you'd agreed...we're dropping the Hulk!"
McGee: "Oh that's ridiculous!"
Patricia: "Only hard news!"
McGee: "The Hulk IS hard news!"
Patricia: "The Hulk is no news--he's pure fiction!"
McGee: "You're wrong! I've seen him! I've seen what he can do!"
Patricia: "Come on, mister McGee."
McGee: "Look...uh baby, I think that you're making a--"
Patricia: "DON'T PATRONIZE ME, Mr. McGee!! The Hulk is out. "
McGee: "Mark, talk to her--you're making a mistake!"
Patricia: "Drop it, mister McGee. I have made my decision!"

Patricia slams a folder down in anger, but McGee imagines the Hulk (like Patricia--someone else he cannot control) smashing her desk in half.

Later, a co-worker is distracted by a picture of the Hulk falling to the ground. When she looks up, she sees McGee on the Register roof. Assuming the worst, she alerts Patricia, who confronts McGee. Manipulative as ever, McGee picks up on the suicide misunderstanding, and allows Patricia to "help" him--

McGee: "What'll you give me if I don't jump?"
Patricia: "The Hulk?"
McGee: "Heh You don't even think the Hulk is real. If I can prove to you that the Hulk exists, will you let me keep the story?"
Patricia: "Yes. Now will you please come away from the edge?"
McGee: "You gotta promise."
Patricia: "I promise. No will you please come away from there?"
McGee: "Mark, did you hear her?"
Mark: "I heard it! I heard it!"
Patricia: "Thank you, mister McGee."
McGee: "Oh, hey, baby call me Jack!"

Angered by his sexist remark and manipulation, Patricia continues to argue against the Hulk--

Patricia: "Look, I am not fighting this Hulk thing for my health! It's got three strikes against it--"
McGee: "Go on."
Patricia: "First of all, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that the creature was born of my father's vivid imagination, and your not-too-shabby abilities as a reporter."
McGee: "Gee, thanks. And I intend to prove to you than the Hulk does exist! Number two--"
Patricia: "Secondly, you haven't even come up with anything new! It's the same old stuff--Hulk sighted, Hulk destroys, Hulk disappears!!"
McGee: "A good reporter will only bring in what he has actually seen himself, or what witnessed--reliable witnesses tell him! So number three--"
Patricia: "Three--you are obsessed with this story to the exclusion of all else!"
McGee: "That's not true--"
Patricia: "Ooohh, I have a file here on stories that have fallen by the wayside while you're out chasing fairy tales!!"
McGee: "Good old Garland. Turn in his own grandmother, wouldn't he?"
Patricia: "THAT's your whole argument for point number three?!?"
McGee: "I don't' know! Maybe you're right. Maybe I am obsessed with it! All I know is that this is the most important thing that's ever happened to me, and that I've gotta stay with it!
Patricia: "Why??"
McGee: "I don't know. Besides, it really doesn't matter, does it? I mean you made me a promise, didn't you? You told me that I could stay on the story."
Patricia: "IF you can prove that the Hulk exists!"
McGee: "Yeah, oh yeah, sure. Sometimes I forget just how ridiculous this whole thing must sound to an outsider..in the beginning, I didn't really believe the thing myself...."

McGee explains how he first heard of the Hulk, his initial disbelief, the encounters with David Banner & Elaina Marks, the explosion and--

McGee: "It killed the only two people* who really understood what it was, and there was nothing I could do to stop it."
Patricia: "Think about it, the shock of the explosion, two people are dying as you watch. There's nothing you can do to save them. So you create this monster to ease your guilt. Hallucination. Its nothing to be ashamed of."

McGee pulls newspaper clippings bearing the Hulk's image--"

McGee: "There's your hallucination."
Patricia: "Mr. McGee, do you believe in flying saucers?"
McGee: "Of course not. Yeah, I know, I know. It's a lid off a garbage can."
Patricia: "What about Bigfoot or the Loch Ness Monster?"
McGee: "I--I get your point. This is different."
Patricia: "Why? The people who see these flying saucers are just as sure of their sightings as you are of the Hulk! I'm just not convinced."
McGee: "Neither was I. But I had to find out just what it was that I had seen."

McGee admits many of his early leads were wasted time, until his second encounter with the Hulk ( "Final Round" ), and how he made it his mission to never be caught off guard again, using tranquilizer darts ("Stop the Presses"), animal nets, or as he put it, "everything from the obvious to the obscure." He recalls the moment he accepted the near-unbelievable: the Hulk transforms back to a man, and his failure to capture the elusive "John Doe" ("Mystery Man"). McGee then offers a highly questionable explanation for his pursuit*

McGee: "...and this phenomenon, whatever it is that makes him a freak, its my responsibility as a journalist to expose it to the public and the scientific community. He has no right to deny the world the knowledge of what he becomes."

Patricia challenges McGee about the lack of outside coverage and eyewitnesses, only for McGee to try to explain it away by suggesting people ignore that which they cannot understand.That evening, McGee's latest Hulk dream is interrupted by a call from Patricia; she believes she can work with McGee, but the moment she asks him to drop the Hulk, the hard-headed McGee snaps at her--

McGee: "How can you be so ignorant?!?"
Patricia: "Listen to you! You're like an alcoholic when it comes to the Hulk, and the only way you're gonna be cured is to give him up entirely!"
McGee: "All right. I'll take the story to another paper!"
Patricia: "Ohh, like The Washington Post or TIME magazine, maybe? Why should they believe you any more than I do?"
McGee: "Okay, I'll work on it by myself!"
Patricia: "Fine! But as long as you're on my payroll, no matter what you hear about the Hulk or where you think he is, you don't touch it--understand?!? There is no more Hulk assignment, Mr. McGee, because there is no Hulk!"

At the Register, McGee (after angrily lashing out because a Hulk lead was trashed) approaches Patricia about the Hulk, trying to sell himself on the story instead of Garland. For all of his years of chasing the Hulk, he reveals a deep misunderstanding of the creature's motives--

McGee: "It's as if his only reason for existing is to destroy."

Trying to reach a sort of middle ground with the still-frustrated reporter, Patricia admits she's having her own struggles stepping into the job, and requests breathing room--enough to make her own decisions. Thanks to McGee's suggestions, she agrees to she will consider changing her mind about all things Hulk.

That evening, McGee is restless--his mind incapable of focusing on anything other than the Hulk. Against Patricia's orders, he is moments away from scheduling a flight to Gary, Indiana (where the Hulk was recently spotted), but thoughts of Patricia prevent him from betraying the woman now creeping into his Hulk-obsessed mind.

Later, McGee returns to the Register offices, asking Patricia to see him; he tells her she was the only thing keeping him from flying to Indiana. It is clear he is edging toward spilling romantic feelings, but Patricia--sensing where he is going--flatly informs him that at the moment, her work is her life, and the need to earn respect for an inherited position. McGee is unsympathetic, believing her problems are that of one trying to leave the shadow of the privileged "daddy's little girl"; Patricia--instantly irked by his assessment--argue that her problems are real...unlike the Hulk. McGee storms out of the office.

Back at home, McGee receives a call from Gary, Indiana--specifically from Chuck Schlosser, the factory worker who not only spotted the Hulk, but the man he believes transforms into the creature. For the first time, an eyewitness verifies McGee's claim--the evidence he's sought for so long. By morning, Mark gets Patricia up to speed: McGee is on his way to Indiana...and he's quit the Register. Perturbed and a bit shocked, Patricia manages to catch McGee's flight, where the irate reporter tells Patricia his intention to a curare-loaded dart gun against "John Doe"/the Hulk. Failing to convince the irate reporter to change his mind, she joins the trip.

Escorted through Schlosser's factory, the duo spot "John Doe,", but McGee--too eager to shoot the man--trips, falling down a staircase, alerting the mystery man, who flees through the factory until a series of accidents triggers a Hulk out--just as McGee, Patricia and Schlosser watch the angry creature rise, and easily outpace the trio as he makes his escape.

Patricia finally agrees that the Hulk is real.

Days later, Patricia happily shows McGee the latest Register headline--

"HULK BLASTS FURNACE"

Although Patricia and McGee patch up their relationship, McGee's hope for romance is snuffed out by the impending return of daddy Steinhauer--meaning Patricia is out of a job. Mark bursts in with news of another Hulk sighting in Toledo, sending McGee on his way...with Patricia at his side.

NOTES:

This is not a cure-related episode.

There is no "Lonely Man" walking scene at the end of the episode.

Bill Bixby was absent from this episode (more on that in the weeks to come), only appearing in flashbacks. Regular Bixby stuntman Fran Orsatti doubled for the actor.

The episode: over the years, a few TIH viewers completely misinterpreted the important points of this episode, while missing the overall character history of Jack McGee:
  1. McGee's episode-opening dream did not mean he feared the Hulk in a literal sense. All one needs to do is recall his dialogue throughout the series, which supports the idea that his "fear" is the fear of being utterly incapable of capturing the Hulk. That inability reinforces his eternal frustration at being a failed writer; it does not matter what kind of journalist he was (pre series), by the time we encounter him in the pilot, he's an intrusive man slinging tabloid garbage, and made matters worse by hitching his fortunes to what the general public sees as a glorified Bigfoot tale.
  2. McGee has already hammered most of the nails in his coffin of unscrupulous behavior, but the fact he used a misunderstanding/concern about as serious an issue as suicide to emotionally manipulate Patricia served as another nail. That kind of behavior is not clever or funny at all.

More nails--

*McGee: "...and this phenomenon, whatever it is that makes him a freak, its my responsibility as a journalist to expose it to the public and the scientific community. He has no right to deny the world the knowledge of what he becomes."

--someone might argue that he's turned a corner--a change of purpose, but. the series (up to this point) developed granite-hard motives for his pursuit.

Again, refer to his own words in "Mystery Man"--

McGee:
"Because the Hulk means escape! GET IT? Its the biggest story of the 20th century...you could pick up a Pulitzer for journalism! More importantly, I could get off the Register..I could stop banging out pap for the supermarket masses! I could get my column back!! I could write real stories!! Important stories!! I COULD BE SOMEBODY!!"
David: "And what happens to the Hulk??"
McGee: "I DON'T--probably just what you said would happen: my paper would bleed it dry. They'd have the world's biggest freak, they'd pull out all the stops--the hoopla, the exploitation, the whole King Kong sideshow!!"
David:
"But the Hulk saved your life! You told me so yourself--don't you think you should help it???"
McGee: "Yes--but you gotta choose...that's all life is, you know, just choosing. It's you or the other guy!"

David studies McGee for a moment. The truth of it all (including what that means for his own life) sinking in.

McGee: "WHAT DO YOU EXPECT?? WHAT DO YOU WANT ME TO DO, JOHN--FIND THE HULK AND WALK AWAY?? YOU'RE KIDDING!!"

That was the real, unfiltered McGee--when pushed, he laid the truth all out and did not modify his position. It almost appears his "for science" line in this episode was used to placate Patricia, who held the Hulk story's fate in her hands. Moreover, his "for science" speech completely gives the middle finger to a human being's right to freedom and privacy--no one has an obligation to expose their condition in the name of science, or the dubious idea of the public's right to know.

Further, McGee's desperate pursuit of "John Doe"--to the point of cornering/threatening Banner's life (not the Hulk) with a curare-loaded tranquilizer in the forthcoming "Equinox" (season three) erases this episode's very shaky attempt to humanize McGee,

In broadcast order (which the audience must accept as in-series chronological order), McGee does not now (or ever) believe David Banner to be among the living, and accepted Mike Cassidy as a lookalike thanks to this line:

McGee: "It killed the only two people who really understood what it was, and there was nothing I could do to stop it."

That does not leave much room for McGee thinking Banner is "John Doe."

Finally, a budding romance for McGee fades away as fast as it started. Patricia was a solid, interesting character, and deserved additional appearances. Sadly, that was not to be the case.

GUEST CAST:

Caroline Smith (Patricia Steinhauer) --
  • Buck Rogers in the 25th Century (NBC, 1979) - "Pilot" movie / "Awakening"
  • Galactica 1980 (ABC, 1980) - "The Super Scouts: Part 1"
  • Brave New World (NBC, 1980)
Walter Brooke (Mark Roberts) made his TIH debut in this episode, and would go on to appear in "Bring Me the Head of the Hulk" and "Interview with the Hulk" from season four.
  • Tales of Tomorrow (ABC, 1952) - "Flight Overdue"
  • Inner Sanctum (NBC, 1954) - "Dead Level"
  • Conquest of Space (Paramount, 1955)
  • Steve Canyon (ABC, 1959) - "Project U.F.O."
  • The Twilight Zone (CBS, 1961 / '63) - "The Jungle" & "A Short Drink from a Certain Fountain"
  • Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea (ABC, 1964) - "The Fear Makers"
  • The Munsters (CBS, 1965) - "Yes Galen, There is a Herman"
  • The Green Hornet (ABC, 1966-67) - series regular - D.A. Frank Scanlon
  • The Invaders (ABC, 1967) - "The Watchers"
  • The Andromeda Strain (Universal, 1971)
  • The Return of Count Yorga (AIP, 1971) - with TOS guest stars Mariette Hartley, Roger Perry & Michael Pataki
  • The Sixth Sense (ABC, 1972) - "Lady, Lady, Take My Life"
  • The Magician (NBC, 1973) - "Ovation for Murder"
  • The ABC Wide World of Mystery (Dan Curtis Productions, 1974) - "Nightmare at 43 Hillcrest"
  • Stowaway to the Moon (CBS, 1975)
  • Time Travelers (ABC, 1976) - Irwin Allen's failed pilot movie
  • Gemini Man (NBC, 1976) - "Escape Hatch"
  • The Six Million Dollar Man (ABC, 1974 / 1977) - "Population Zero" / "Death Probe: Part 1" & "Dark Side of the Moon: Part 1"
  • Buck Rogers in the 25th Century (NBC, 1979) - "Testimony of a Traitor"
  • Bring 'Em Back Alive - (CBS, 1982) - "Thirty Hours"
  • Automan (ABC, 1984) - "Unreasonable Facsimile"
 
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I love Bette Midler.
This is good to know, BTW, because "The Rose" is coming up and I'd been planning to skip it. (Bette Midler and the Clash...that should be interesting....)

"Proof Positive"
a.k.a. "Bill Bixby's Week Off".

Jack McGee suffers from a nightmare of being pursued by the one thing he cannot catch--the Hulk.
An interesting re-use of the "Married" desert footage...I guess McGee and David must have a psychic link....

Patricia slams a folder down in anger, but McGee imagines the Hulk (like Patricia--someone else he cannot control) smashing her desk in half.
Post-Traumatic Hulk Disorder.

McGee: "Yeah, oh yeah, sure. Sometimes I forget just how ridiculous this whole thing must sound to an outsider..in the beginning, I didn't really believe the thing myself...."
IT'S A CLIP SHOW!!!!!!!

McGee admits many of his early leads were wasted time
The episode does make you wonder if McGee ever chases down fake Hulk leads...that could have been a pretty interesting premise for another McGee-centric episode.

McGee: "...and this phenomenon, whatever it is that makes him a freak, its my responsibility as a journalist to expose it to the public and the scientific community. He has no right to deny the world the knowledge of what he becomes."
A rationalization to be sure, but one that McGee might believe. And we have to keep in mind that anything McGee said about his motivations for pursuing the Hulk in "Mystery Man" were said before he knew that the Hulk was a man who transforms into the creature. That knowledge would have informed his reasons for pursuing the Hulk.

Patricia challenges McGee about the lack of outside coverage and eyewitnesses, only for McGee to try to explain it away by suggesting people ignore that which they cannot understand.
The episode actually explores why the general public thinks the Hulk is a hoax.

he is moments away from scheduling a flight to Gary, Indiana
:wtf:

(where the Hulk was recently spotted)
And significantly, we saw the Hulk being sighted. Interestingly enough, despite Bixby's absence, the episode follows the two-Hulk-Out formula...but we don't actually see the FHO, just its aftermath, clearly implying that there was one. So I'm in a bit of a quandary as to whether or not the FHO counts for purposes of tallying the time. If so, we first see the Hulk at -21:24, which would be our new latest FHO for the series to date...but even if we do count it, it won't hold that honor for long....

he tells her she was the only thing keeping him from flying to Indiana.
:wtf:

Back at home
McGee must have picked up those masks on his wall in the '60s when he did a guest appearance on Tarzan....

McGee receives a call from Gary, Indiana--specifically from Chuck Schlosser, the factory worker who not only spotted the Hulk, but the man he believes transforms into the creature.
Clearly, the John Doe angle serves a practical purpose here...McGee even gets his standard description of John Doe recited to him.

McGee is on his way to Indiana...and he's quit the Register. Perturbed and a bit shocked, Patricia manages to catch McGee's flight, where the irate reporter tells Patricia his intention to a curare-loaded dart gun against "John Doe"/the Hulk. Failing to convince the irate reporter to change his mind, she joins the trip.
You missed the part where they had a long conversation while the full-size passenger jet was sitting on the tarmac before take-off. Which brings us to the episode's major geographic blunder.

Students, if you'll open your Google Maps and look up Gary, Indiana, you'll see that it's...

RIGHT NEXT TO CHICAGO!!! In fact, the town immediately to the west of Gary is called East Chicago, Indiana!

A Google Map trip, which plots from the center of one city to the center of the other, gives a trip of around 40 minutes. In the time that it would have taken McGee to get out to O'Hare, go through check-in, and sit on that tarmac waiting for the flight to take off...he could have easily driven there. If he had to take the bus, it would have taken a little over an hour.

Let's zoom out for some perspective.

I'm originally from the South Bend area. We had family in Chicago, and used to routinely drive there. It took about an hour and a half, and we always drove through Gary!

If we needed to fly somewhere, we went to O'Hare in Chicago...through Gary!

Needless to say, I was beside myself at this "flight to Gary" nonsense.

until a series of accidents triggers a Hulk out
One that definitely counts, and is another new latest: -03:52.

Mark bursts in with news of another Hulk sighting in Toledo
Banner's heading east....

This is not a cure-related episode.
Just schlepping around, as far as we can tell.

There is no "Lonely Man" walking scene at the end of the episode.
But there is an end-credits frame with the usual music...the most generic Lonely Man sequence of all.

Bill Bixby was absent from this episode (more on that in the weeks to come)
Does this have something to do with his divorce? I was curious about that when I read about it in relation to "The Psychic".

Finally, a budding romance for McGee fades away as fast as it started. Patricia was a solid, interesting character, and deserved additional appearances. Sadly, that was not to be the case.
Indeed. This is the second time that they spent an episode fleshing out a female colleague for Jack, only to have her disappear as a one-episode wonder. So much wasted story potential in favor of sticking to formula.

It's also easy to get an episode like this confused with other episodes...we have that regurgitated angle, plus the curare gun is a variation on the rifle from "Stop the Presses"...although the curare gun, at least, becomes a recurring character.

Tune in next week, when David can't handle a funhouse....

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This is good to know, BTW, because "The Rose" is coming up and I'd been planning to skip it. (Bette Midler and the Clash...that should be interesting....)
Ah, I love "The Rose." I wasn't too keen on the Clash at the time, but I came around.

Students, if you'll open your Google Maps and look up Gary, Indiana, you'll see that it's...

RIGHT NEXT TO CHICAGO!!! In fact, the town immediately to the West of Gary is called East Chicago, Indiana!

A Google Map trip, which plots from the center of one city to the center of the other, gives a trip of around 40 minutes. In the time that it would have taken McGee to get out to O'Hare, go through check-in, and sit on that tarmac waiting for the flight to take off...he could have easily driven there. If he had to take the bus, it would have taken a little over an hour.

Let's zoom out for some perspective.

I'm originally from the South Bend area. We had family in Chicago, and used to routinely drive there. It took about an hour and a half, and we always drove through Gary!

If we needed to fly somewhere, we went to O'Hare in Chicago...through Gary!

Needless to say, I was beside myself at this "flight to Gary" nonsense.
That is absolutely fantastic. Apparently these Hollywood guys just choose random city names out of a hat without actually doing any research. Now if you'll excuse me, I have to catch my flight to East Bridgewater to visit my Mother.

Hailing from Gary, IN, but not appearing in this episode:
Such a cute kid. Little did we dream what would become of him. :(
 
“Proof Positive”: This is an inspired angle on the idea of a clip show. Bixby’s unavailability (due to divorce proceedings) provided a rare opportunity to make Jack McGee the hero and see the story from his side, something that hasn’t been done since “The Confession” -- and to take it even further this time, since the story is exclusively from his side, rather than having to share screen time with David skulking about in pursuit of his own agenda. (I don’t think we even saw David’s face clearly except in the flashbacks to McGee’s initial encounter with Dr. Banner -- a nice way of maintaining viewpoint.)

And it’s really a deep dive into McGee’s obsession with the Hulk and his reasons for it -- the almost tragic irony of being a sincere, dedicated, honest reporter seeking to serve the public good by pursuing a story that he knows to be factual, but that his colleagues see as a sleazy tabloid fabrication. Before, it’s been that need for validation that’s driven McGee, the drive of any horror-movie protagonist (which, really, is what McGee is from this side of the chase) to prove to the world that the monster is a genuine threat. Here, that becomes more personal, as he has to prove his case to one person in particular, the one with the power to shut down his quest. So it delves more into the reasons why he needs to prove it. Partly it’s his righteous indignation that John Doe is hiding the knowledge of what the Hulk represents from the scientific community and the public. Partly it’s his own standards as a journalist, his inability to accept his one ongoing failure. And partly it’s because the chase has whittled away at the rest of his life until there was nothing else left to fill it.

Given the broadcast order, I like to think that maybe the events of last week’s episode, where McGee came close to discovering that Banner was alive, might have intensified his obsession with finding answers. After all, it was a reminder of where this all started -- and of a man he believes to have been killed by the Hulk. That reminder might’ve triggered his recurring Hulk nightmare, and redoubled his commitment to the hunt. It’s a coincidence that the episodes came in that order, of course, but it’s a fortuitous one.

Which I guess makes it tolerable that Jack’s interaction with Pat Steinhauer had a romantic undercurrrent added, as was obligatory for just about any male-female interaction in TV at the time. In many respects, I would’ve liked the story better without that angle, but it ultimately works, because it shows that Jack has pulled himself back from the brink of obsession and found some balance in his life again. Which means he can continue the chase without being destroyed by it, as he so nearly was. (Well, maybe not that nearly. I loved how oblivious he was to being near the roof edge when the others thought he was suicidal -- and how cannily he turned that to his advantage.)

The episode saved money in other ways -- being mostly office-bound and having little new action -- so it didn’t have to use too many clips, always an advantage in a clip show. But I wonder if maybe they jumped over too much of McGee’s pursuit. I would’ve thought they’d leave in the climax of “The Hulk Breaks Las Vegas,” the first time Jack really got a good, close look at the Hulk and the first time the Hulk saved his life. We’ve heard him write that off as an “accident” before, but you’d think he would’ve reassessed that after learning about John Doe.
 
^ Good thoughts, an insightful read.

This is an inspired angle on the idea of a clip show.
Indeed, this show repeatedly demonstrates the right way to do clip shows.

Bixby’s unavailability (due to divorce proceedings)
So it was the divorce. Reading about that when looking up his co-star in "The Psychic" got me curious about the timing of it all, particularly in relation to that episode, which I was planning to ask about when we got to it. Was the episode made before they were getting the divorce? During? Given the timing, is there any connection between the divorce and Bixby's (ex-)wife getting a part on the show?

a rare opportunity to make Jack McGee the hero and see the story from his side, something that hasn’t been done since “The Confession”
Too bad they reworked a key element from that episode in such a way that it's easy to get the episodes confused.

(I don’t think we even saw David’s face clearly except in the flashbacks to McGee’s initial encounter with Dr. Banner -- a nice way of maintaining viewpoint.)
Hadn't caught that, but it makes sense.

Given the broadcast order, I like to think that maybe the events of last week’s episode, where McGee came close to discovering that Banner was alive, might have intensified his obsession with finding answers. After all, it was a reminder of where this all started -- and of a man he believes to have been killed by the Hulk. That reminder might’ve triggered his recurring Hulk nightmare, and redoubled his commitment to the hunt. It’s a coincidence that the episodes came in that order, of course, but it’s a fortuitous one.
That made me dig up the production list. The connection could still work, as "Broken Image" is still in this episode's recent past, with a few episodes between...and I don't remember offhand, but it wouldn't surprise me if Jack wasn't even in any of those episodes.

I loved how oblivious he was to being near the roof edge when the others thought he was suicidal -- and how cannily he turned that to his advantage.
I enjoyed that, too...it was a nice twist.

The episode saved money in other ways -- being mostly office-bound and having little new action -- so it didn’t have to use too many clips, always an advantage in a clip show.
But the National Register certainly wasn't saving any money, booking a jet to Gary. That must be like the New York cabbie who takes you the long way to run up the meter. "Yeah, we can get you to Gary...eventually. There'll be a few layovers...."

But I wonder if maybe they jumped over too much of McGee’s pursuit. I would’ve thought they’d leave in the climax of “The Hulk Breaks Las Vegas,” the first time Jack really got a good, close look at the Hulk and the first time the Hulk saved his life.
My notes failed me! I could have sworn that I'd meant to say something about that...that it seemed like they were building up to that as a flashback in the narrative, but then didn't use it. Or maybe I'm getting this one confused with another clip show....

ETA: It now occurs to me that if Banner was traveling from Gary to Toledo, he likely passed through South Bend...assuming that Banner's world doesn't have some strange, twisted geography, like Voyager in that one episode.

I hadn't noticed, but did McGee's Hulk sighting map appear in this episode? Because somebody working on the show really should have looked at the thing....
 
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Indeed, this show repeatedly demonstrates the right way to do clip shows.

By the way, I was going to make the "psychic link" joke about McGee and Banner having the same desert dream, but you beat me to it.


So it was the divorce. Reading about that when looking up his co-star in "The Psychic" got me curious about the timing of it all, particularly in relation to that episode, which I was planning to ask about when we got to it. Was the episode made before they were getting the divorce? During? Given the timing, is there any connection between the divorce and Bixby's (ex-)wife getting a part on the show?

"The Psychic" was production number 53007, "Proof Positive" was 53031. They're hugely out of order by this point. Bixby and Brenda Benet were still married at the time "The Psychic" was made, though they wouldn't be for much longer (and it's kind of hard to watch "The Psychic" knowing what lay in store for Benet in real life).


That made me dig up the production list. The connection could still work, as "Broken Image" is still in this episode's recent past, with a few episodes between...and I don't remember offhand, but it wouldn't surprise me if Jack wasn't even in any of those episodes.

The intervening episodes in production order are "The Lottery," "Babalao," and "Long Run Home." McGee has minor roles in the first two of those and is absent from the third.
 
"The Psychic" was production number 53007, "Proof Positive" was 53031. They're hugely out of order by this point. Bixby and Brenda Benet were still married at the time "The Psychic" was made, though they wouldn't be for much longer (and it's kind of hard to watch "The Psychic" knowing what lay in store for Benet in real life).
Makes you wonder if working together on the show was actually a nail in the coffin for their relationship. And yeah, when I read about Benet's fate (and so relatively soon after her appearance on the show), a certain angle that was played up in that episode seemed disturbingly prophetic.
 
On The Radio is great and I used to love Grease when I was a kid and it played all the time on HBO. I don't know if I watched that or Smokey and the Bandit more when they were on like nearly everyday or maybe Beastmaster.
The Rolling Stones could do a lot with just an empty set though I think the ultimate video like that was Start Me Up.
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It's been a long time since we've seen traditional Zombies. Not that I don't like the Romero variety, but the Zombie Apocalypse has worn out its welcome big time-- I think most kids today don't even know what a "real" Zombie is.

With all due respect to the craftman that is Greg Nicotero--but I'd rather face any five Walkers than Francois Edmonds. Walkers fall apart easy. Francois, on the other hand, is clearly in Soloman Grundy territory, and humans fall apart in his hands easily. He'd be a match for Ferrigno's Hulk.

One of the victims simply has his shirt and coat on at an angle--but it looked like his whole frame had been skewed sideways.

Looking forward to tonights TIH. I think this has the Hulk kicking at metal pipes.
 
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Batman
"The Minstrel's Shakedown"
Originally aired September 21, 1966​
"Barbecued Batman?"
Originally aired September 22, 1966​

With special guest villain Van Johnson...not to be confused with the already Batman-associated Van Williams...to say nothing of Van Morrison or Van Halen.

Ironic that an episode featuring a singing, rhyming villain is the first 2-parter in the series whose titles don't rhyme. [...] I wonder why part 2 wasn't something like "Batman's Takedown" or "The Minstrel's Breakdown."
Indeed...especially as the second title only refers to the immediate situation at the beginning of the episode. Seems like somebody was having a creative lapse.

Anyway, the Minstrel's medieval gimmick is a bit weak, and repetitive coming just two weeks after the Archer; it's like they were creating villains that would let them raid Fox's historical-costume warehouse.
Indeed as well...might have worked better if those two stories had been a bit further apart. And they even draw attention to the similarity by name-dropping Archer as a past adversary.

But other than that, he's a really effective villain, with his electronic tricks and his rather ruthless blackmail scheme.
This story also seemed like more of a game of chess between Batman and his opponent than most...each competing to be a move ahead of the other. And speaking of, in the coda we see Bruce and Dick playing the 3D chess game again.

This is a surprisingly modern story, with a high-tech terrorist manipulating the stock-exchange computers and broadcasting demands on live television
Screwing with the stock exchange seemed like it could have been a good gimmick for the motif-challenged TV Joker. Threatening the building with resonating sound, OTOH, was a gimmick distinctly suited to the Minstrel's motif.

and with Batman using a UAV drone to trace the signal. (Although the Green Hornet also had a VTOL camera drone in his arsenal.)
Surprisingly, Batman's version is more naturalistic than the Hornet's.

Alfred had a lot to do
There was a hint of the more modern comics/movie Alfred for a moment there, when he was chiding Batman to eat something and not get lost in his dual identity.

The Bat-Bombs looked like painted bang-cap bombs...but how convenient that Batman happened to foresee the need to use them in this one unusual instance when the villains needed a distraction to make them leave Batman and Robin unattended in their deathtrap. Everyone leaving the room at once reminded me a little too much of the contrived circumstances surrounding some HO's in TIH.

For a moment there, O'Hara was channeling his fellow Irish-stereotype character, Hornet's Mike Axford, in accusing the masked crimefighter of being up to no good.
I caught this quote far enough ahead to watch my last couple of episodes of TGH with this in mind...and I'm not seeing it. Axford's name isn't Irish in origin...there's a slight hint of some sort of ethnic accent, but it's not distinctly Irish to my ear, and it could just be the actor's normal inflection (though I'm not familiar with his other work)...and I can't recall them doing any obviously Irish references in relation to the character.

Imagine if we'd seen this side of him more often -- it makes him a more interesting character. Unfortunately, O'Hara didn't get to do much in the final fight except get knocked out at the start and just lie there until it was over.
I agree with this, though. It could have been an interesting dynamic to have a little less unconditional worship of the Dynamic Duo in the commissioner's office. As it stands, the moment just serves as setup for another display of that worship on Gordon's part.

"But how can he be here in this room and on TV at the same time?" :lol: Seriously, O'Hara, you had to ask that? Notice how Robin seems quicker on the uptake when Gordon and O'Hara are around to need things explained to them.

By the way, I always thought the Minstrel's song was original to the show, and it was only comparatively recently (in the past decade or so, anyway) that I discovered it was an old standard, "The Wandering Minstrel."
Not just an old standard, a Gilbert & Sullivan number from a famous opera, The Mikado.

Some random Batman observations:

If anyone got into Bruce's study who'd also been in Commissioner Gordon's office, just the phone could have been a big giveaway.

What's that gated area to the left side of the Batcave exit? The signage says Entrance to something, but I can't make it out in SD. Or is it a gate to the exit that's always open?

Something not even specific to this show, but in my mostly 50th anniversary-sequenced viewing of various shows from this era (including this episode), I've been noticing a lot of a particular style of clock that must have been fashionable in the mid-60s. Took me a bit of googling to find the exact type I was looking for:

http://www.terapeak.com/worth/elgin...arometer-thermometer-hygrometer/300976976983/
(Not an advertisement on my part, I have no idea whose site that is.)

I think my Grandma may have had one of these in the '70s, but I don't have a definite memory of it.
 
A rationalization to be sure, but one that McGee might believe. And we have to keep in mind that anything McGee said about his motivations for pursuing the Hulk in "Mystery Man" were said before he knew that the Hulk was a man who transforms into the creature. That knowledge would have informed his reasons for pursuing the Hulk.

Whether McGee knew the Hulk was a man or just a creature is irrelevant to his motivations. He clearly tells "John Doe" that the Hulk is his ticket to the big times, and he cares little about the welfare of the creature. Put yourself in that position--would you hunt down anyone--creature or man-who-turns-into creature knowing he would be a prisoner exploited by anyone (most likely government agencies) interested in such a fantastic being? Moreover, McGee--not caring about the effects of curare--is willing to shoot "John Doe" with the weapon. Because he's using a tranquilizer more for the Hulk than a man, shooting him in "John Doe" state poses the high risk of a lethal outcome. McGee has no idea about the Hulk's recuperative powers, so if he had a moral bone in his body, he would not use the weapon against anyone.

Add that to his immoral use of Patricia's suicide misunderstanding to his advantage, and the picture painted is one of a typically corrupt writer who will do anything that serves his desires.


McGee must have picked up those masks on his wall in the '60s when he did a guest appearance on Tarzan....

So, that's two single name, bare-chested heroes he's faced.


Does this have something to do with his divorce? I was curious about that when I read about it in relation to "The Psychic"

Yes, and other disturbing matters. When "The Psychic" is reviewed, I will post Kenneth Johnson's observations on the Bixby marriage.


Indeed. This is the second time that they spent an episode fleshing out a female colleague for Jack, only to have her disappear as a one-episode wonder. So much wasted story potential in favor of sticking to formula.

Agreed. The duo did not have to be a full-on romance from the start--just getting used to each other. Walter Brooke's Mark Roberts character made a few return appearances, so I see no reason why the Patricia character could not be used in the same way.
 
Batman
"The Minstrel's Shakedown"
Originally aired September 21, 1966​
"Barbecued Batman?"
Originally aired September 22, 1966​

With special guest villain Van Johnson...not to be confused with the already Batman-associated Van Williams...to say nothing of Van Morrison or Van Halen.

^ Vantastic name association.


Indeed...especially as the second title only refers to the immediate situation at the beginning of the episode. Seems like somebody was having a creative lapse.

The entire story was a creative lapse; Van Johnson was a gifted actor elsewhere, but he's wasted in this made-for-TV role.


This story also seemed like more of a game of chess between Batman and his opponent than most...each competing to be a move ahead of the other. And speaking of, in the coda we see Bruce and Dick playing the 3D chess game again.

You can find other examples of the "chess" match between heroes and villain in the Bookworm, False Face, Sanders Mr. Freeze and Catwoman's 1st appearance. It is not a coincidence that all are from season 1 stories, as that early period was one of actually crafting clever stories instead of jumping to the next death trap & Bat-fight of the week.

I caught this quote far enough ahead to watch my last couple of episodes of TGH with this in mind...and I'm not seeing it. Axford's name isn't Irish in origin...there's a slight hint of some sort of ethnic accent, but it's not distinctly Irish to my ear, and it could just be the actor's normal inflection (though I'm not familiar with his other work)...and I can't recall them doing any obviously Irish references in relation to the character.

You're not seeing (hearing) it because its not there. Axford is no Irish, nor is he implied to be in the series. You are correct that there's a trace of some ethnic accent, but nothing even remotely close to O'Hara.



"But how can he be here in this room and on TV at the same time?" :lol: Seriously, O'Hara, you had to ask that? Notice how Robin seems quicker on the uptake when Gordon and O'Hara are around to need things explained to them.[/quote]

Early on, Robin was portrayed as being as sharp as Batman, usually figuring out key elements of crimes, hence Batman's oft-used, "You've done it again, old chum!" As season two wore on, Robin was allowed to be a bit more mocking/arrogant, but by season three, he was sidelined all to elevate Batgirl's position on the show.

If anyone got into Bruce's study who'd also been in Commissioner Gordon's office, just the phone could have been a big giveaway.

...and to think, for as secrecy-minded as Batman seems to be, he's missed the value in a simple lock for the Wayne study.
 
Whether McGee knew the Hulk was a man or just a creature is irrelevant to his motivations. He clearly tells "John Doe" that the Hulk is his ticket to the big times, and he cares little about the welfare of the creature. Put yourself in that position--would you hunt down anyone--creature or man-who-turns-into creature knowing he would be a prisoner exploited by anyone (most likely government agencies) interested in such a fantastic being? Moreover, McGee--not caring about the effects of curare--is willing to shoot "John Doe" with the weapon. Because he's using a tranquilizer more for the Hulk than a man, shooting him in "John Doe" state poses the high risk of a lethal outcome. McGee has no idea about the Hulk's recuperative powers, so if he had a moral bone in his body, he would not use the weapon against anyone.

Add that to his immoral use of Patricia's suicide misunderstanding to his advantage, and the picture painted is one of a typically corrupt writer who will do anything that serves his desires.
I think you're viewing McGee through a much more hostile lens than the writers or Colvin would have intended. You're definitely taking the spur-of-the-moment suicide misunderstanding gag too seriously.

Yes, and other disturbing matters. When "The Psychic" is reviewed, I will post Kenneth Johnson's observations on the Bixby marriage.
That should be interesting. I had no idea about Benet until I looked her up while watching that episode.
 
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