Thanks, my insult level elevated to the point of not giving a response.
CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar
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Aw, have I hurt your precious little feelings ?
You can tell me how much effort, time and love were put in, and I will believe you, and I understand their love for what they do, and if it makes them happy, good for them, but I think they are shit, that is my opinion , and one that I am more than entitled to have and say.
You do not see me getting upset with you cos of your opinions on Axanar.
My guess is you made some tacky 2 bit fan thing and now feel I must be therefore disrespectful for daring to have my own opinion and taste.
Maybe we did all play a part in some two bit fan thing piece of shit but at least we didn't sub contract the work out to a 3rd party to produce it for us.
I have made nothing but I have the up most respect for people who do.
You my friend are rude and disrespectful.
As far as my feelings after dealing with Alec Peters and his crap for a year you pale in comparison.
You my friend are rude and disrespectful.
As far as my feelings after dealing with Alec Peters and his crap for a year you pale in comparison.
I see, you attended the Alec Peters School of Charm and Charisma. You might want a refund. Being "entitled" to an "opinion" doesn't give you free license to be spitefully rude to people who put in passionate dedicated hard work bringing fan films to fruition.
Why is my opinion on what I like and dont like rude and disrespectful or is it only rude and disrespectful cos it does not suit your agenda ?
Am I not entitled to my own opinion on what I like and don't like ?
Or am I only allowed comment with praise when it suits you ?
I am not knocking the love these people have, or their commitment for their own personal dedication,for fan stuff, I have my own dedication in that I too make my own trek stuff stuff for my own trek art site, and I am sure some people might think my stuff is shit.
That is their opinion and their right to decide, difference is I do not feel insulted or personally threatened if someone don't like it.
I have not seen one single fan made trek film that has ever left me thinking I enjoyed that and would want to see more, with the exception of prelude to Axanar.
Of Gods and men was the only other thing that was deemed passable to me and not sure my hopes for a follow up would have me anxious to search.
That does not mean I agree completely with what Alec Peters did or how he went about things either, its just my opinion as a fan of what I like and dont like about what I saw in Prelude.
What I saw of that I liked, and I wanted to see more.
Is that too much for you to grasp ?
Cannot argue with that.
Just because I knocked fan films , dont mean I agree with what peters did either.
Some people are having trouble coming to terms with that, and think I must choose one side or the other.
I personally have no issue with anyone who makes fan stuff, its just that all I have seen has disappointed me sadly, and these new CBS guidelines makes me think we wont ever get anything decent ever.
I'm very curious about then Seuss case. The villian in it might not be as compelling.
Calling something shit is not having an opinion it is being a Jerk.
If you want to critique them then do sme constructively.
If you want to critique them then do sme constructively.
As far as the guidelines and not seeing anything good.
Boy your in for a surprise
Boy your in for a surprise
Let me get this straight: he brought in $1.4 million, built sets, built a studio... And is now hinting that they're going to look for even more donations to make 30 minutes of video? That's just downright shameful.
I predict that he will continue scamming his donors in any way he can, and will produce very little in return. Because, you know, track record.
And like others, I wonder if the pros will be even remotely interested in working with him, especially when you consider that these guys may want jobs working on the new official Trek...
3: money.
It might actually work if the script was as terrible as we heard it was. It could be mostly filler, in which case the result would probably be better for having the useless crap cut
And you wonder why people don't respond well to you?
I had a beautifully snarktastic response written, but then I remembered "post, not poster." So I'll just say this: grow up.
Big big thanks, @jespah, for the hours and hours and hours (and hours and hours) you have given this topic and Thread in your tireless though I'm sure mind boggling tiresome getting (& paying for I might add) the legal documents, reading the documents, blogging in, you know, real language what they say, podcasting about this litigation, and covering questions here in this thread.
!!!!!!! (<-- because I know how you love exclamation points
)You read my mind. When I read "stipulate to the dismissal of this entire action with prejudice as to all parties" I thought 'Now, what does with/without prejudice mean again?'
and my favorite part:
I have so enjoyed talking directly (if she ever read it I mean) to Ms. Ranahan using this Thread. And Mr. Bawden. And CBS/Paramount. And Mr. Lane and the defendant. Now of course I'm not under any illusion all of them have been 'following' this Thread. (one for sure and probably two) But without referencing this Thread I have recognized similarities to things written here also being used elsewhere, twice actually word for word in a very surprising place. So I am also not under the illusion We Star Trek Fans here in this Thread have gone unnoticed either.
So, with that:
Ms. Ranahan, I bid you adieu. I will remember you.
--and--
CBS & Paramount, if you ever read this, thank you so much for what you have accomplished in this litigation and for all the wonderful decades of Star Trek series and movies you have and continue to give me. My very best to you!
Team Pie. It has a nice non-aggressive sound doesn't it. I like it.
A topic thread 'would' be nice.
Wrong, I actually dont wonder about that at all....but I am not responsible for what you imagine.
I suspect my straight speaking answers upset many of the precious delicate souls on here but if you and others are happy with the fan films you make, should that not be all that matters to you ?
or are you so insecure you cannot handle some other person telling you he thinks they are shit in his opinion.
If you and other post your sub standard fan films on the net you cannot cry everytime someone says they think they are crap, and throwing a hissyfit because you do not like the reply.
Well, maybe I'm wrong and some Axanar Kickstarter Backers may do something. There's definitely a few not too happy, or buying the tone of the Axanar e-mail to donors about the settlement:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/194429923/star-trek-axanar/comments
Source:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/194429923/star-trek-axanar/comments
I wouldn't be surprised if this settlement is the same offer Lin and Abrams were talking about last year. It just took this long for Peters to see the light. Too many people were assuming that C/P were out to crush the "poor little fan," but they may have been trying to give him a way out for quite some time. Of course, since C/P didn't make any public statements regarding the litigation, Peters was free to spin things any way he wanted. I hope more details come out in the next few days.
I've received a few settlements from class action lawsuits, the most generous one I recall was $5 off on my next purchase of Co2.
I'm sure Liquid Air didn't even feel it and the only satisfaction would be seeing Alec dividing his remaining money and sending out penny checks to the donors.
It would be interesting to read that e-mail AP sent to his donors. Does he mention the fair use defense he harped on about for a year didn't fly and all of the unredacted financials were going to be a central focus in court? Probably not. lol. I wouldn't put it past AP to beg for "private donations" which should really piss off more than a few donors.
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