"All Our Yesterdays" Observation/Question

[Spock's Barber]

Scotty : "Captain, it's now or never."

Ka-Boooooooooooommmmmmmm!!!

Scotty : "Captain? Are you still there? Hello?"

 

[Tracy Trek]

Did anyone else think it was appropriate that the keeper of the library (Mr. Atoz) had an appropriate name. A to Z?

 

[Nerys Myk]

Did anyone else think it was appropriate that the keeper of the library (Mr. Atoz) had an appropriate name. A to Z?

That's the sort of name Modern Trek would sadly never use.

 

[Commishsleer]

^^ I think that the countdown of Beta Niobe going "nova" comes into play. It created the really excellent suspense of this episode, and prevented Kirk from saying that, or going back to get Spock.

Great point though. If it'd happened that way, would Spock's emotions have led him to save Kirk and McCoy? I do not know.

Spock gave up Zarabeth to "save" McCoy. Not really save him but get him back to the life he wanted.
Was Zarabeth really Spock's love or just convenient because she was the only girl in the world. Would Spock in his right mind be attracted to her. I know the girl is hot but so were Spock's other lady friends. He would never consider giving up everything for them.

 

[johnnybear]

Because Spock wasn't "prepared"wouldnt he have died anyway eventually?
If Spock had decided to stay all it would have taken was for Kirk to say I'm not leaving without you to get Spock back?

Good point, yes, Kirk was starting to feel odd just before he returned through the portal to the library! Spock may have given Zarabeth a child, who knows but he might not have lasted the week in that Sarpeidon air siege (listen to Ian Wolfe's sentence with Shatner in the library) without being made ready for that era!
JB

 

[johnnybear]

Did anyone else think it was appropriate that the keeper of the library (Mr. Atoz) had an appropriate name. A to Z?

It has been mentioned a few times over the years as that was the intent! Although I must admit that it never occurred to me up until that time...
JB

 

[geotrek]

He would never consider giving up everything for them.

Yes, but I think that's the whole dilemma. Spock's primitive drives creating an even stronger battle that he has to overcome in order to save McCoy... even not knowing that he wouldn't live long in that "time."

Spock gave up Zarabeth to "save" McCoy. Not really save him but get him back to the life he wanted.

Exactly. If that had not been an issue, I think he would have stayed.

Was Zarabeth really Spock's love or just convenient because she was the only girl in the world. Would Spock in his right mind be attracted to her.

I don't know... probably convenience combined with the effects of the time. And, probably not.

 

[johnnybear]

There must have been humanoid life on Sarpeidon at that time or if not how did life ever begin there? Unless all life is descended from Spock and Zarabeth's night of passion?
JB

 

[Tracy Trek]

Not canon since it's from a book, but according to Ann Crispin's 2 Yesterday books.....

Spoiler

There were people living in more southern latitudes where the ice hadn't reached yet.

There must have been humanoid life on Sarpeidon at that time or if not how did life ever begin there?

 

[Nerys Myk]

There must have been humanoid life on Sarpeidon at that time or if not how did life ever begin there? Unless all life is descended from Spock and Zarabeth's night of passion?
JB

Is there some reason you think there wasn't?

 

[Greg Cox]

Is there some reason you think there wasn't?

Well, Zarabeth implies that she's all alone in that ice age, but that doesn't mean that humanoid life didn't evolve on the planet later on. Or that there weren't primitive hominids on another continent on the other side of the planet . . ..

Hell, she's wearing furs, which kinda indicates that some of kind of mammals have evolved already.

When Zarabeth laments that she's all alone in that time and place; she's talking about human companionship, not animal life. Presumably there are some kind of primates running around somewhere, who will eventually evolve into humanoids, but they're not exactly boyfriend material yet . .. and won't be for millions of years.

 

[Tracy Trek]

She was stranded 5,000 years in the past wasn't she? That's where Spock and McCoy get sent to. And then Kirk got sent to the Sarpeidon equivalent of late 1600's Salem.

 

[Nerys Myk]

She was stranded 5,000 years in the past wasn't she? That's where Spock and McCoy get sent to. And then Kirk got sent to the Sarpeidon equivalent of late 1600's Salem.

Yes it was 5,000 years in the past. Zarabeth also mention that Zor Kahn sends people there to get rid of them. So there must be other Sarpeidians scattered through out the Ice Age.

 

[UnknownSample]

Enormous areas would be uninhabited one way or another.

 

[geotrek]

I assume that the time portal is in the same location, regardless of the time period... and given that Kirk appears in a highly populated city area, it would seem logical to think that there would only be very small packets of inhabitants during that icy period, possibly located in less hostile regions. (If there were any)

 

[Nerys Myk]

Enormous areas would be uninhabited one way or another.

By scattered I meant through the time period not the geography.

 

[geotrek]

^^ Oh. I see.

 

[Myko]

That's a cute predestination paradox, if their entire civilization were the descendants of the criminals Zor Khan sent to the distant past.

 

[Greg Cox]

By scattered I meant through the time period not the geography.

Good point. If the Ice Age lasted for centuries, it does Zarabeth no good to know that other exiles are stuck in the same Ice Age, plus or minus a century!

 

[Nerys Myk]

Good point. If the Ice Age lasted for centuries, it does Zarabeth no good to know that other exiles are stuck in the same Ice Age, plus or minus a century!

I'm pretty sure she and other exiles were in "solitary'. Separated by time, distance and climate.