Travelers Season One Discussion Thread
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You know it may be in the delivery too--every time it's so subdued. Usually an f-bomb involves some throaty emoting or scrunched up pained face or something. Here it just kind of oozes out when uttered.
Anyway. The Helios eppy was a tick upward. Will catch the next installment tonight.
Anyway. The Helios eppy was a tick upward. Will catch the next installment tonight.
Some thoughts:
Technically, they were just speculating about what caused the timeline changes. It could have been something else. For instance, that scientist will no longer be wrongly blamed for an antimatter explosion. Saving the career of a once-in-a-generation inventor (even if they wiped her knowledge of people from the future) could have indirectly created the second faction in miniature (just enough dissenters to launch those interrogations), and the Helios adjustment may have upped that faction's power to the point in which it rivaled the Director.
What they said, though, was that
the Faction originated in Dome 41, which had collapsed and killed all its occupants in the original timeline but had survived intact in the post-deflection timeline.
They know Dome 41 was saved due to changes to the timeline. Those changes exist in the post-deflection version of events, but (given their surprise at the discrepancy) they clearly have no way to know for sure that deflecting the asteroid was the root cause for saving Dome 41. Note: We also don't know the timeline of the fall of 41 and the rise of the faction. It is possible that the faction began even in the original timeline (or post-some changes but pre-asteroid deflection changes) but was at least mostly wiped out in the realities in which 41 was destroyed. In fact, 41 may have been originally destroyed by the Director because of the emergence of this new faction, but, due to the timeline changes, the Director was somehow unable or unwilling to destroy 41 in latter versions of the timeline.
Also , as far as who sent:
the interrogator. Scientist 117 (inventor of the device that deflected Helios) seemed to describe them almost as quarelsome colleagues and not a rival group to the Director. It's possible that the faction (or at least the current version of the faction] never sent the interrogator. Grace and Ellis just assumed it was their rivals because they don't have knowledge of the timeline that actually sent the interrogator.
It would be interesting to find out that saving the scientist's career indirectly led to the disagreements described by 117 (a proto-faction) and that those disagreements were upped to a full-scale rival to the Director when Helios was deflected (in this version of events assuming the deflection is what eventually saved 41).
It would be interesting to find out that saving the scientist's career indirectly led to the disagreements described by 117 (a proto-faction) and that those disagreements were upped to a full-scale rival to the Director when Helios was deflected (in this version of events assuming the deflection is what eventually saved 41).
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Time Trax was before TV had much inner continuity with stuff like this, and I believe it alternated between alternate futures and a single timeline. Darien would communicate with the future one-way via newspaper ads, and he coudln't go home until his mission was done, because you could only take the drug that enabled the time travel twice without being mangled (hence 2 shots from the car alarm phaser, one to prep, one to transport.)
It was aired at odd times without much planning, so tiny bit of actual arc storyline was hard to follow. He caught up with and defeated the main villian prematurely, leaving the show to meander around pointlessly, ending quietly and with no dignity, with things like him flirting with his holographic computer mom.
It got a DVD release a few years back.
Well, for one thing, Time Trax premiered in the same year as a number of other shows that had relatively strong continuity in the story-arc sense, including Deep Space Nine, Babylon 5, The X-Files, The Adventures of Brisco County, Jr., Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman, and the animated Exosquad. (Quite a year. It was also the debut of Power Rangers.)
But I think you're conflating that with the more basic kind of continuity in terms of just keeping your facts and ground rules consistent, which is independent of the other kind. If Time Trax had trouble keeping its time-travel rules straight, that's more a function of the individual show than of the era it was in. (After all, it's not like Legends of Tomorrow has anything remotely resembling consistent time-travel rules...)
Legends consistently doesn't make sense.
Time Trax said that they were sending Darien Lambert to a parallel time line, but yet "His boss in the future" still felt compelled to pay back the bank 200 years in the future, plus interest, adjusted for inflation, every time Lambert had Selma empty an ATM.
Time Trax said that they were sending Darien Lambert to a parallel time line, but yet "His boss in the future" still felt compelled to pay back the bank 200 years in the future, plus interest, adjusted for inflation, every time Lambert had Selma empty an ATM.
^ 3% was OK if you can get past the low budget 1980's production values (and the iffy english dub). I'd recommend going straight to Stranger Things, which was excellent. The OA started off strong but the last few episodes seemed like the writers had no idea how to end the damn thing. As always YMMV....
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I've been mildly curious about 3% since reading a lukewarm recommendation of it on io9. As for Stranger Things, I've heard everyone gushing about how it's this wonderful tribute to '80s Stephen King and Spielberg movies about childhood and so on, but I never much liked the originals of those things in the first place. And The OA sounds like a complete mess as well as dealing with mystical/fantasy concepts I'm not interested in.
But there is the new version of A Series of Unfortunate Events premiering on Friday the 13th (appropriately). That looks like it might be fun.
But there is the new version of A Series of Unfortunate Events premiering on Friday the 13th (appropriately). That looks like it might be fun.
Renewed by Showcase and Netflix for a 2nd season.
Good news!
it reminds me of the series Continuum Warehouse13/Sancturay, The Fugitive...if you have ever seen it? There was also Odyssey5 but that's perhaps better and a cult classic
Give it a chance, its a slow burn...sure it has some hammy tributes but its also fun and very well wrote, maybe a bit of Alien(s), Goonies, Hellraiser, Stand By Me and some foreign euro or Japanese flicks like the Akira animation in there...the show seems to pay tribute to all things late 70s, 1980s and early 90s
maybe the best show at the moment, great first season
Christopher was talking about %3, a Brazillian tv series about a Utopia who uses a game show system to stagger immigration from a nearby Dystopia... But I'm not sure if you are.
While I'm here... Episode 2, of season 2 Travelers is supposed to be airing this evening.
Waiting, waiting, waiting.
While I'm here... Episode 2, of season 2 Travelers is supposed to be airing this evening.
Waiting, waiting, waiting.
Episode 2 didn't air till after midnight, and I'd been refreshing the page constantly since 3pm.
This is super interesting from s02e01 about the Traveler selection process.
This is super interesting from s02e01 about the Traveler selection process.
The reason the Director waits for a moment of death, or a recorded moment of death, is not to protect the timeine, or to mute unfavourable changes to the timeline, it's Asimov's three laws. Or maybe just the first one, but the Director cannot murder a human being, so it has to wait until the very last second to possess the almost certainly otherwise already dead.