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The Crown - Netflix - Outstanding

Finished the show and enjoyed it a lot. I googled Margaret and read that she became quite the diva as the years passed. I couldn;t help but think that maybe her diva behavior was her way of rubbing some noses into her "royalness" since that had been the reason she couldn't marry the man she loved. Since being a princess had been the reason she couldn't marry Peter, then she would take advantage of every perk (and then some), that the position had to offer.

Is there going to be a season 2? Anyone know?
 
Finished the show and enjoyed it a lot. I googled Margaret and read that she became quite the diva as the years passed. I couldn;t help but think that maybe her diva behavior was her way of rubbing some noses into her "royalness" since that had been the reason she couldn't marry the man she loved. Since being a princess had been the reason she couldn't marry Peter, then she would take advantage of every perk (and then some), that the position had to offer.

In fairness, the story is dramatised somewhat for TV - in reality, Anthony Eden arranged it so that as long as she abdicated her place in the line of succession, she could marry him and remain in all other respects a royal. As Elizabeth already had two children by this point this wasn't that big a loss to Margaret. She didn't end up marrying him, but it isn't known why - the show decided to show Elizabeth standing in the way, which is only one interpretation. It could also be that she had just cooled to the idea while he was in Belgium.
 
In fairness, the story is dramatised somewhat for TV - in reality, Anthony Eden arranged it so that as long as she abdicated her place in the line of succession, she could marry him and remain in all other respects a royal. As Elizabeth already had two children by this point this wasn't that big a loss to Margaret. She didn't end up marrying him, but it isn't known why - the show decided to show Elizabeth standing in the way, which is only one interpretation. It could also be that she had just cooled to the idea while he was in Belgium.

One story-line I thought was interesting that was under dramatized by the show. In the series Winston Churchill's portrait was hated by him but it fails to tell the real life salacious story on how he got a hold of it. Apparently in real life, Lady Churchill has the portrait stolen in the dark of night out of Parliament whereas the show kind of leaves it nebulous as how he got possession of it.

You can read the real story, Here on how they stole it.
 
Up to episode 5. Mountbatten's role has been sensationalized, I think. He could be a schemer, usually for his own career, but so are many who reach high positions and he was actually a highly competent officer. Even cursory research would reveal that he was not even in the country during the Smog, he was in Malta serving as CinC Mediterranean Fleet, and was caught up in his own intrigues about who would be the NATO boss there (the Americans didn't want their ships under a non-US admiral). AFAIK there is no evidence that he intervened with the Queen to question Churchill's leadership.
 
My father saw Lord Mountbatten-not sure of the circumstances because he never talked about it-he just mentioned that he saw him in person while serving in India during WWII. That has nothing to do with anything-I just always think of that whenever Mountbatten's name crops up anywhere.
 
My father saw Lord Mountbatten-not sure of the circumstances because he never talked about it-he just mentioned that he saw him in person while serving in India during WWII. That has nothing to do with anything-I just always think of that whenever Mountbatten's name crops up anywhere.

Not bad, that's like seeing Eisenhower or MacArthur or something!
 
The Crown up for 3 Golden Globes

*Best Drama series
*Claire Foy - Queen Elizabeth
*John Litghgow - Winston Churchill

NBC

All well deserved nominations.
 
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The Crown up for 3 Golden Globes

*Best Drama series
*Claire Foy - Queen Elizabeth
*John Litghgow - Winston Churchill

NBC

All well deserved nominations.

Would of been nice to see Smith get a nomination as well but yes well deserved. I believe Claire and John will both win but I think the show won't win Best Drama (Probably Westworld)
 
Best Television Series, Drama

  • Game of Thrones
  • The Crown
  • Westworld
  • Stranger Things
  • This Is Us

I think "This is Us" will win it.



Best Actress, Television Drama

  • Claire Foy, The Crown
  • Winona Ryder, Stranger Things
  • Evan Rachel Wood, Westworld
  • Thandie Newton, Westworld
  • Caitriona Balfe, Outlander


Ranking up to down for chances at winning. I don't think Caitriona Balfe has a chance

Best Television Supporting Actor

  • Sterling K. Brown, The People v. O.J. Simpson: American Crime Story
  • Hugh Laurie, The Night Manager
  • John Lithgow, The Crown
  • John Travolta, The People v. O.J. Simpson: American Crime Story
  • Christian Slater, Mr. Robot


It's a toss between Lithgow and Sterling K. Brown. Hugh Laurie always gets nominated but hasn't won since 2007
 
Saw this today. Disappointing that they didn't exactly tell the whole truth with this but dramatized it to make Elizabeth to look like the bad person:
Margaret calls it off not Lizzy
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The story is one that's been recently popularized in Netflix's drama The Crown, and it's the tale of a royal princess refused the right to marry a divorced airman. According to the version popularly told, Princess Margaret fell in love with Captain Peter Townsend, pilot from the Battle of Britain and equerry to both King George VI and Elizabeth II. The problem was that he was divorced, and to marry him would have been a major scandal in the eyes of the royals and the Church of England. Elizabeth II is said to have put her foot down and forbid the marriage, not only not giving the permission required (as dictated by the Royal Marriages Act of 1772), but telling her that if she disobeyed, she would find herself an exile no longer part of the family.

The truth, though, is even more complicated.

At the time, the Prime Minister was a man named Anthony Eden. He, too, had been divorced, and he amended the act so that Margaret's marriage to Townsend wouldn't remove her (or her children) from the line of succession at all. Elizabeth II agreed to the change, and Eden would write in at least one letter to his ministers that the queen had no desire to keep her sister from what would make her truly happy. The official documents that would have allowed the marriage are in the National Archives, and they've been publicly accessible since 2004. It wasn't until 2009 that a letter from Margaret to Eden revealed her own doubts as to whether or not she truly loved him. In it, she tells Eden that she plans on deciding in the upcoming months whether or not she was going to marry Townsend, and it's a letter that makes it clear Margaret was the one who made the decision based on her own feelings, not based on threats of being ostracized from the royal family.

Read More: http://www.nickiswift.com/34597/fal...-marry-her-first-true-love/?utm_campaign=clip
 
We've not long finished watching and I must admit, I was sceptical about the series, but I was blown away by not just the acting but the production values on screen and if Netflix throw as much money at Discovery as they did at The Crown, it will be the best looking Trek series so far.
 
We've not long finished watching and I must admit, I was sceptical about the series, but I was blown away by not just the acting but the production values on screen and if Netflix throw as much money at Discovery as they did at The Crown, it will be the best looking Trek series so far.
Except Netflix has nothing to do with the production of Discovery. It's only responsible for the distribution outside of the US and Canada.
 
I think it's fairly safe to say Netflix would wield some influence, if they wanted to wade in. However, it isn't strictly their production. That sort of grandiose production seems to play well on streaming though - I imagine CBS will have noticed.
 
I think it's fairly safe to say Netflix would wield some influence, if they wanted to wade in. However, it isn't strictly their production. That sort of grandiose production seems to play well on streaming though - I imagine CBS will have noticed.

Exactly.

Anyway, about The Crown, has anyone else seen statements by Foye that the entire cast will be replaced between series two and three?
 
Exactly.

Anyway, about The Crown, has anyone else seen statements by Foye that the entire cast will be replaced between series two and three?

Well, a quick search gave me this article. Apparently, the plan is to have Claire Foye and Matt Smith only for the first two seasons, switch to an older pair of actors for seasons 3 and 4, then end with an even older pair actors for seasons 5 and 6.
 
Avoidance of the Tudors thing where Jonathan Rhys Meyers was playing a man twice his age, I suppose. Puts some weight of expectation on the casting people though!
 
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