Not true. As she says in her message, "...My ship has fallen under attack and I'm afraid my mission to bring you to Alderaan has failed..."
Spoilers Rogue One: A Star Wars Story - Grading & Discussion
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He can certainly write a theme or two. But not an entire, iconic score. Certainly not at the level of Williams (even TFA), or Howard Shore. Heck, even Alexandre Desplat (who Giacchino replaced for RO) outpaces Giacchino with respect to creating a cohesive, memorable score (see: Deathly Hallows, pts 1 & 2). And, let's face it, RO, while competently made (and even adds some ANH-era Williams-esque flourishes), is not even up to Giacchino's standards - much less Williams' least inspired efforts.
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Not saying the last part of the movie couldn't have been re-worked but it's not like she couldn't have been lying about what her mission was.
The best way to tell a lie is to tell just enough of the truth to satisfy, while leaving out the inconvenient parts.
"I'm a member of the Imperial Senate (true) on a diplomatic mission (to find/recruit Obi-Wan Kenobi and bring him) to Alderaan (true)."
All she left out was what the diplomatic mission itself was. A plausible excuse - for anyone but Vader.
"I'm a member of the Imperial Senate (true) on a diplomatic mission (to find/recruit Obi-Wan Kenobi and bring him) to Alderaan (true)."
All she left out was what the diplomatic mission itself was. A plausible excuse - for anyone but Vader.
What was the deal with Threepio and R2? We see them just as we're told General Raddus has committed his ship to the assault on Scarif - and it's implied he's already en route? At what point do they join the fleet??
Maybe Leia arrived late? It is hard to tell really. As I didn't think we saw Leia's ship docked with the cruiser earlier in the battle.
However in the Radio Drama, Leia was sent on a mission to retrieve Obi-wan from Tatooine, and then redirected to pick up the Death Star plans from a planet under an Imperial blockade. Since she has a Blockade Runner, they used her ship to jump into the system, fake a navigation problem with damage, intercept the transmission, and then jump out as a Star Destroyer turned to intercept the ship. They figured they got away since you track people through hyperspace normally. But the Dark Lord of the Sith can do that with the Force is seems, and comes out of hyperspace right behind the Rebel ship as it approaches Tatooine. Time for Plan C...or is this D now? Plan D for Droid.
Plan A: Rogue One sneaks onto the planet. Makes some noise to get the Imps away from the tower, they steal the plans, and skip town in their stole Imperial cargo shuttle.
Plan B: Transmit the message to the Rebel fleet which has happened to arrive, they take it to the Alliance.
Plan C: Use Leia's corvette to break the blockade and get the message to the Alliance.
Plan D: Send the plans to Obi-wan Kenobi in a droid and hope he can get the plans to Alderaan.
Plan E: Disable the tractor beam to escape the Death Star with the plans.
Plan F: Lets rescue the Princess from the cell block dressed as stormtroopers, and escape to wherever she sends us. (Plan E, F, and G are not exactly mutually exclusive, just Luke had to come up with another plan after Obi-wan left due to new information, and then plan can got wrong.)
Plan G: Wing it and hope we escape with the plans. (mostly successful, minus Obi-wan)
However in the Radio Drama, Leia was sent on a mission to retrieve Obi-wan from Tatooine, and then redirected to pick up the Death Star plans from a planet under an Imperial blockade. Since she has a Blockade Runner, they used her ship to jump into the system, fake a navigation problem with damage, intercept the transmission, and then jump out as a Star Destroyer turned to intercept the ship. They figured they got away since you track people through hyperspace normally. But the Dark Lord of the Sith can do that with the Force is seems, and comes out of hyperspace right behind the Rebel ship as it approaches Tatooine. Time for Plan C...or is this D now? Plan D for Droid.
Plan A: Rogue One sneaks onto the planet. Makes some noise to get the Imps away from the tower, they steal the plans, and skip town in their stole Imperial cargo shuttle.
Plan B: Transmit the message to the Rebel fleet which has happened to arrive, they take it to the Alliance.
Plan C: Use Leia's corvette to break the blockade and get the message to the Alliance.
Plan D: Send the plans to Obi-wan Kenobi in a droid and hope he can get the plans to Alderaan.
Plan E: Disable the tractor beam to escape the Death Star with the plans.
Plan F: Lets rescue the Princess from the cell block dressed as stormtroopers, and escape to wherever she sends us. (Plan E, F, and G are not exactly mutually exclusive, just Luke had to come up with another plan after Obi-wan left due to new information, and then plan can got wrong.)
Plan G: Wing it and hope we escape with the plans. (mostly successful, minus Obi-wan)
Actually, Lucas failed with "Return of the Jedi". Having Obi-Wan declare that Owen Lars was his brother was very inconsistent with his reaction to the latter's death in "A New Hope". And the hint that Padme had raised Leia for a few years, while allowing Luke to be raised by the Lars truly lacked common sense.
In fact, all of the STAR WARS movies - whether they were produced by Lucas or the Disney Studios - seemed to have its share of narrative flaws. This isn't really surprising to me. I have yet to see a movie that had a flawless narrative.
That makes no sense to me. Any well trained military pilot could have done what Luke had achieved in "A New Hope". That was just contrived writing on Lucas' part.
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That declaration never happened in the film.
Yeah, that definitely wasn't in the movie. Also, it is no revelation that Lucas lost his touch (and control of his ego) by the time RotJ was shooting.
Yes it did. Obi-Wan's Force ghost told Luke (after Yoda's death):
I don't believe that Lucas had lost his "touch" or "ego" by 1982-83. He simply didn't handle the screenplay for "Return of the Jedi" very well. Come to think of it, I found some parts of "A New Hope" and "The Empire Strikes Back" rather questionable, let alone the Prequel Trilogy. As for "The Force Awakens", I thought that screenplay seemed to reek with plot holes, thanks to J.J. Abrams and Lawrence Kasdan.
It's in the movie. I remember. I've never read the novelization.
Unless the line came from a dubbing into a language that was not English, it was not there on film. Lars is not even mentioned in Return of the Jedi. Obi-wan only talks a tad about Yoda, about Luke, Vader, Anakin, the Emperor, and a touch on Leia. Nothing about Lars, not any relations to Kenobi himself.
It sounds like you're remembering this like many viewers claim to remember Paltrows head-in-a-box at the end of Se7en.
So we, (the wife and I) watched Rogue One on Friday evening at the local (and only IMAX in the country it turns out) and yes it had some flaws in the narrative structure and some issues of continuity issues with A New Hope if you look at them from certain points of view, but all in all, I bloody well loved it and most of the positive and somewhat negative things about the film have been said. - And the gender inequality seems very glaring.
As for the music, given Giacchino had a limited time to write and score the music, he did an adequate job, like Williams (and others) have done in the past, he did what sounds like reusing some themes from other films he has scored (the main Imp theme sounds very similar to the non-Jurassic Park segments of Jurassic Worlds score) and there a few moments where he has used Williams previous score to great effect, including the shuttle launch from Jedi.
ILM did a fantastic job with all the effects in the film, the way the two Star Destroys impacted each other, it really did look like they were physical models and not computer generated ones. As for Tarkin, I read months ago that the artists at ILM were having great trouble recreating Cushing for the film as there are very few (if any shots) of his entire body in Hope due to him wearing bright pink fluffy slippers on set and the were using footage from other films of his (including his Doctor Who ones) to digitally recreate him and I'm not sure if it's because I knew this in advance or not, but I didn't have any issues with the recreated Tarkin. As for Leia at the end, that was jarring, but could be down to a few things.
As for seeing Vader in the Bacta tank, I'm glad we only got a hint of what was inside and I was expecting K2 to be impaled through the chest, but of all the deaths, his was the most "upsetting" as it were.
All in all, it was a bloody good film and it might not be my favourite of the Star Wars films, it's easily either joint top or in second place, I just need to rewatch it to take more of it in.
I started this post typing about how I actually liked everything they did with Vader but considering the extraneous use of Mustafar, the lame pun and the terrible looking costume in his first scene (why cover up his awesome armor with a drab, untextured, limply hanging cape?), I guess I didn't.
I honestly didn't hate the movie as much as it sounds from my posts. They just got so close to greatness that every flaw is magnified like if they let a class of kindergartners loose with markers on the ceiling of the Sistine chapel.
I honestly didn't hate the movie as much as it sounds from my posts. They just got so close to greatness that every flaw is magnified like if they let a class of kindergartners loose with markers on the ceiling of the Sistine chapel.
Because that's what he looks like in Star Wars.
I put it third, but yes.
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