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Frustrations with Trek lit...

Why? Change for change's sake is never a good thing. It's destructive.
You're the one who wants to change things, I want them to stay how they are now. With the way Nemesis and What You Leave they had two options, either move forward and introduce new characters to replace the people who left, or come up with some convoluted excuse to bring everybody back. Even if it doesn't always work, I still think the former is a lot more interesting that the later.
I am really frustrated by how one dimensional and OOC most characters feel in Before Dishonor.

I think most everyone feels that way about that book, so you definitely aren't alone there. :p

If it helps, the continuation of events immediately past Before Dishonor (Greater Than The Sum, Destiny, the Beyer Voyager run) really makes up for that one.
The less said about Before Dishnor the better.:crazy:
 
Part of the problem might be the number of iterations of Trek that need to be serviced in a very restrictive schedule,thus making the time between visits to say,DS9 too long.Go too long without an Enterprise book for example and those fans feel ignored.
The sporadic visits and the number of characters to be "serviced" can lead to a disconnectedness and I think that's just what is being expressed here.
How Pocket solves this..I don't know,the extended run of SD Perry DS9 books seemed to work some years ago.

That's what I mean by upping the shcheduling...you can't do what they are trying to do story wise when you are putting out so few books a year in the setting. They pretty much have to be standalone or mostly standalone and actually have resolutions that are cared about within the books. At the moment they are just marking time....actually that's not fair, the last couple have been much much better...but have also been mostly standalone and focused tightly on one or two haracters from the TV series. How they are going to resolve all the hanging stuff in the background and the Arc novels is anyone's guess...it's just too slow.
 
Well, Destiny was frustrating at times by its length, if I were the editor, I would have crossed out some parts of it - or rather the length itself would not be such problem, but it had some boring chapters. As I was originally going through the post-Nemesis books, I have read only two chapters of Before Dishonor and then skipped on the next book. However, I was assigned it to work on (it was either that or Golden's take on Voyager and I am not sitting through magical unicorn Libby Sue and all of Chakotay's family rising from dead again), so this time there is no escape. Still frustrating, though :D

I am really curious, what do you mean "assigned"? Is there a course on Treklit somewhere out there? Because that sounds really interesting. :D

Edit: Oh, got so caught up with being interested in the above that I forgot to respond to you Randy:

Well I wasn't really making argument, just offering an opinion. And the petition thing was really just to see how other people felt about it. I wouldn't start one myself, but I would sign one.

I understand people mostly disagree with me on this issue just fine. Sure there are a few others here who do, but yeah we're the minority which is why I always add the disclaimer "I'd like to see it happen but don't expect it to." or a variation thereof.

That's fair! Sorry if I was coming too hard too; even if I disagree in terms of personal taste with you all, I appreciate that you're out there and I think you have some good points on the whole.

Honestly, even if I disagree in terms of what I myself want to see in Treklit, I can see why having more of a balance would be appealing for you all, and I can see why you've got the objections you do with the relaunch stuff. (I mean if I'm being blunt, my own personal tastes are probably even more in a minority than you all, since I think my perfect Treklit series would be an extremely extended slice-of-life deep psyche/worldbuilding dive over the course of a few dozen installments, getting far out into the weeds for both the universe and the people with little-to-no focus on actual plot. The feel of Mad Men meets the feel of Persona 4 in the Trek universe. :p )
 
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I rather liked Before Dishonour.
Best New Frontier book since "Stone and Anvil." Now, the parts around the New Frontier part... well, "Greater Than the Sum" did a great job smoothing over the character discontinuities between "Resistance," "Q&A," and BD.
 
I wouldn't mind a few more stand alone Ds9 novels where other Ds9 characters got to have their own stories and adventures like Miles O' Brien and Nog had in Force and Motion. I really liked Jeffrey Lang's Force and mototion or Una McCormack's Ds9 books. I really like the Data books and wish there will someday be another Data novel. I like having the Star trek books being a mix of Serialized stories and stand alone novels.
 
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If I got one wish, it would be a story set in the gap between Soul Key and Rough Beasts of Empire. There was so much potential story there, even if we have to move the Ascendants to the end of the line. I have always felt very cheated that we didn't get more of seeing Bajor settle into being part of the Federation.

I don't think the current 24th century books need a reboot, exactly, but I think they need a refresh. It doesn't help that the two characters that I liked the best, Kadohata and Choudhry were either shuffled off unceremoniously or pointlessly killed off.
 
With all those gaps and jumps - I hope they'll be filled out like the 5YM someday. "Q are cordially uninvited" was a step in that direction.
 
With all those gaps and jumps - I hope they'll be filled out like the 5YM someday. "Q are cordially uninvited" was a step in that direction.
Didn't that one have some continuity problems with the TNG relaunch novels.

I would like to see a DS9 - The Lost Years e-novelle series set between The Soul Key and Destiny.
 
That's what I mean by upping the shcheduling...you can't do what they are trying to do story wise when you are putting out so few books a year in the setting. They pretty much have to be standalone or mostly standalone and actually have resolutions that are cared about within the books. At the moment they are just marking time....actually that's not fair, the last couple have been much much better...but have also been mostly standalone and focused tightly on one or two haracters from the TV series. How they are going to resolve all the hanging stuff in the background and the Arc novels is anyone's guess...it's just too slow.
I'd really rather not see them up the schedule from 12 books plus e-books, I can't even keep up with that. We've been getting at least one book in each series every year or two, so that's pretty average for a book series. There have been a few years that ended up with a lot more of one series, but that's usually been due to an usually been due to an anniversary , and it's evened out the next year. I don't really see why we there would be any reason to worry about arcs not getting resolved, there's no sign of the books stopping, and unless something dramatic happens I can't see them just dropping the ongoing stories without resolving any dangling plot threads.
I wouldn't mind a few more stand alone Ds9 novels where other Ds9 characters got to have their own stories and adventures like Miles O' Brien and had in Force and Motion. I really liked Jeffrey Lang's Force and mototion or Una McCormack's Ds9 books. I really wish there will someday be another Data novel. I like have the Star trek books being a mix of Serialized stories and stand alone novels.
Una McCormack does a new DS9 novel coming out next year, and I think Jeffrey Lang has mentioned a follow up to his post Cold Equations Data novel, but I can't remember if was actually a contracted novel or just an idea he had.
 
/\Yeah but Una's books(and I love 'em) do tend to be Cardassian(and Garak)-centric.
So again in a DS9 book the station and it's new crew again get little attention,compounding the problem.
 
^ ^ The Andorian arc in TTN is unresolved, DS9 is slow to get Sisko into the GQ, and with DSC writing canon, the Litverse could be overwritten and reset to factory setting any day now.
 
I would take quality of quantity...but we're not getting much of the former either right now.
 
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