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Who is going to win this election in November?

Who will win the general presidential election?

  • Donald Trump

    Votes: 37 22.7%
  • Hillary Clinton

    Votes: 126 77.3%

  • Total voters
    163
  • Poll closed .
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In other words, you really do want a draconian, inhumane crackdown on people who've done nothing wrong other than overstay a visa or enter the country without authorization. You don't care how many people it hurts, how many people it kills, so long as your abstract notion of a secure border is protected. You don't even know why you want a secure border, but boy do you really want one! And you don't care if that means tearing families apart, abusing and killing people, or massive human rights violations. You have your ideological position and you want it accomplished, no matter what it takes.

You said immigrants are coming into this country every day. You were incorrect.

You said we have an insecure border, when we're in the midst of the biggest crackdown in history.

We already deport people who come here and commit crimes.

What more do you want? Seriously. What more do you want? Will nothing satisfy you until every last undocumented immigrant is out of this country, and we take extreme measures to keep more from entering?
As I said earlier, it's unrealistic to deport every illegal immigrant. In the quote that you're referring to, I said more needs to be done to protect American borders.
 
The U.S.-Mexico border regarding illegal immigration has been an issue for decades through several administrations, be it Dem or Rep. but not to worry, suddenly it's the current administration's fault.
I never said Barack Obama was the reason for illegal immigrants. I said he hasn't done enough to protect American borders.
 
As I said earlier, it's unrealistic to deport every illegal immigrant. In the quote that you're referring to, I said more needs to be done to protect American borders.

But you support deporting everybody who's actually caught. So what's the solution here? Tailor efforts to find illegal immigrants towards reaching a specific number of people caught to make sure the economy doesn't take hit?

Seriously, you're not thinking these things through.

I would also question a free market economy that only works because at its lower end a big number of illegal immigrants is exploited to make cheap services available to a middle class that had its net incomes shrink due to stupid trickle-down economics and neoliberal economic policies since the 1980s.
 
Just remember: what is popular, may not always be right.

That is funny. Because, by and large, if Americans understood the impact immigrants had on their pocketbooks, they would have no issue with them being here.

Completely anecdotal observation: we have several hotels in our area because of our stadiums. The people that look completely professional and ready to work, for jobs as room cleaners and cooks? Latino and African-Americans (which stay relatively the same). The white folks look like they are there to get to the next meth fix (and are constantly changing).

It's weird when people really don't understand the world they live in.
 
Are people still trying to float false equivalencies?? Clinton didn't condone racism or violence against opponents. The anti-Trump protests are just that: peaceful protests. That you don't agree with their message doesn't make it a riot.

You are being completely intellectually dishonest here, most importantly with yourself. And I suspect that's how you will live life the next four years.
So it's peaceful when people vandalized cars and buildings and lit fires in the streets (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ed-demonstrations-erupt-across-us/93633154/)? I admit that about 90% of the people protesting are peaceful. It's the remaining 10% that's the problem, they're the people I'm referring to.

Also, I think I'm pretty honest person.
 
But you support deporting everybody who's actually caught. So what's the solution here? Tailor efforts to find illegal immigrants towards reaching a specific number of people caught to make sure the economy doesn't take hit?
I never said hunt them down, but if they are pulled over for speeding and it turns out that they're an illegal immigrant, they should get whatever punishment is deemed necessary.
 
I never said hunt them down, but if they are pulled over for speeding and it turns out that they're an illegal immigrant, they should get whatever punishment is deemed necessary.

Anyone pulled over speeding, should have to take the US Citizenship test, and if they fail it get immediately deported. I'd bet there'd be a lot of white citizens getting kicked out of the country. :lol:
 
I never said hunt them down, but if they are pulled over for speeding and it turns out that they're an illegal immigrant, they should get whatever punishment is deemed necessary.

So let's say no punishment is necessary.

They aren't hurting anyone.

Deport 'em anyway?
 
Anyone pulled over speeding, should have to take the US Citizenship test, and if they fail it get immediately deported. I'd bet there'd be a lot of white citizens getting kicked out of the country. :lol:
Most of the people driving have a license, meaning that they would have official documentation.
 
Most of the people driving have a license, meaning that they would have official documentation.

I don't care about their documentation, I'm worried about them having two brain cells to rub together. To me, those are the undesirables that I don't want in my country.

If one can't pass a citizenship test, they don't deserve to be citizens.
 
What is popular, may not always be right.

Also, at least I didn't bring insults towards a person with an opposing view.

I didn't say anything about popularity. You said you weren't interested in their stories.


I didn't make any insults since this is the misc.
 
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