So Christlike, good thing Jesus the Jew from Nazareth lived in Roman 1st century Palestine. The Republicans would have made his parents life a misery. They were Jewish, they had dark skin, they were poor and they were refugees...mmmm
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So Christlike, good thing Jesus the Jew from Nazareth lived in Roman 1st century Palestine. The Republicans would have made his parents life a misery. They were Jewish, they had dark skin, they were poor and they were refugees...mmmm
Well then I guess it makes it all ok!
So you're giving up. Are you that afraid I might change your mind?
Is Misc your safe space? It's safe from debate.
Just agreeing to disagree.
Actually I don't believe I've ever been in here before this thread. Usually I don't have the time to peruse the forums on a regular basis, except for the last two days.
If I needed a safe space I would have never even opened this thread - quite obviously it was a $hit-storm in waiting
What's arrogant about a society that values peace, dignity, and self-improvement?
So, "jobs" will be returning to the rustbelt. Do these people think that they'll be paid a decent salary, particularly when Trump also advocates removing any viable minimum wage? These "coal and steel workers" are going to be in for a sad surprise when they see their first paychecks. The money isn't suddenly going to be gushing like tapped oil well.
Also, we've already seen from Newt Gingrich that the Committee on Un-American Activities may be reborn. The 1950s are coming back in style. The only thing these folks seem to forget, though, is that the only reason for the 50s prosperity was WWII and the economy it ushered in... Or maybe they do realize that.
Also, we've already seen from Newt Gingrich that the Committee on Un-American Activities may be reborn. The 1950s are coming back in style. The only thing these folks seem to forget, though, is that the only reason for the 50s prosperity was WWII and the economy it ushered in... Or maybe they do realize that.
The "other guy" was born into money. He lost over 900 million dollars in one year alone in business. What the hell does he know about working class?
The "other guy" is an orange marmalade smeared misogynistic, racist, homophobic, anti Muslim, war hero insulting jackass and anyone who voted for him are voting for those views he so clearly expressed. The fact that the KKK support him should make people think for a second as to WHY.
This isn't even close to a shitstorm. Swim away new fish. You aren't ready for this.Actually I don't believe I've ever been in here before this thread. Usually I don't have the time to peruse the forums on a regular basis, except for the last two days.
If I needed a safe space I would have never even opened this thread - quite obviously it was a $hit-storm in waiting
Nice, the Federation has good values. The idea that others out there must want to join the party is arrogant, sounds like the real life 'lets spread democracy and make mini Western Europe/US' mentality that politicians have in the West and that causes the mess we have on Earth. In the STTNG universe there were decent planets that had alliances with the Federation and were not rushing to join. And their values were decent and dignified for them.
Some historians believe WW2 got USA out of recession, perhaps TPTB are lusting for another bite at that cherry? Heaven forbid!
I believe that was my point, yes.
War is good for business! But it does not benefit billionaire hotel owners with a draft dodging past.
Possum is transgendered and is facing far more than a simple bombardment with harsh ideas, which she is more than capable of dealing with as you can see from her handling of the discussion here. So it would be nice if you didn't fall back on the trite "safe space" condescending insult so many others have resorted to. She is facing a country that already had a nasty trend of physically and verbally attacking, painting them as sexual predators prowling school bathrooms without any evidential basis, and attempting to legislate against people like her, and that was before those elements of the public and government were further emboldened by the election of Trump. So, if you could maybe have it in your heart to not be so dismissive of her concerns and treat her like some delicate college student who simply can't handle opposing viewpoints, that would be great, mmkay? Have some damn empathy.
Of course he's my president. I don't question that he was legally elected President of the US. That's the part that terrifies me.
Yes, there is a block of millions of mostly middle class white people primarily from the Rust Belt but also other areas who were previously Obama voters but turned on Hillary and the Democrats because they felt their concerns about the loss of manufacturing and coal mining jobs that frankly aren't going to come back in any meaningful numbers (it's harsh but it's true, and they need help) were being ignored. Their motivations may not be racist in nature but it's rather naive to think that just because someone voted for the black guy doesn't mean they can't also harbor racist views. This election of all things should convince you of the power of the protest vote against established political dynasties like the Clintons and the Bushes, and some people might have held their nose and voted for the black guy out of sheer desire to upset the status quo. Not saying there are a lot, just saying that the whole "we elected Obama, so we can't be racist" argument is nonsense.
But there is also a YUUGE block of white people who feel that their country has been taken away from them. It's inherent in the dogwhistle slogan "Make America Great Again", and overtly reinforced by Trump and his surrogates' racially, sexually, ethnically, and religiously divisive rhetoric.
You can have both coexist at the same time. It's not mutually exclusive. The existence of some non-racist and less overt Trump supporters does not negate the large block of virulently bigoted supporters who want to take the country back to a "better" time, like the 1950s, when the women and the blacks knew their place, the gays were locked up or kept their "condition" quiet, transgendered people weren't even on the radar yet, and Mexicans got deported in quaint little programs called "Operations Wetback" once we'd finished exploiting them for cheap labor.
That's the Great America many of them want to go back to again, because by most other actual verifiable metrics, America is doing better than that mythical nostalgic land they're pining for. Not all. There are definitely people suffering and the middle class has been gutted (primarily because of pro-big business, anti-union policies like the type Trump and his cronies have and will implement again, despite union members voting against their own self-interest), but in most cases things are better now than they were in the past, and they could be even better if not for regressive policies and an obstructionist Congress.
Ban me or do whatever you're going to do, but I don't need to be preached to.
They could certainly use that loophole, but you would have to have someone you trust to forward it back to Mexico from that other country.
If you don't want to defend your position then leave. We aren't going to hold your hand and treat you like a special snowflake for having a belief. If you make a claim, you have to defend it.
Obama made a promise that existing plans would not be dissolved due to the ACA, which turned out to be untrue. The plans you can get now are generally more expensive for most with higher premiums, deductibles, co-pays, and co-insurance.
My plan is, without exaggeration, $1000 cheaper per MONTH now for me and my family than it was before the ACA was enacted. The difference would have been far more by now than if nothing had been done. I got to keep all my doctors. Copays are less. Deductible is $0. Silver plan.
I have come to learn from reading comments that talking to the right is a Sisyphean task. One of the basic issues is where we get our news. The left have their sources and their right have their sources. Certain facts are agreed upon - we live in the United States, for example; however, how they process and interpret events is rarely in agreement. I have attempted on many occassions to read or hear their point-of-view. Their reasoned arguments degenerate into ugly attacks on the left. (Probably, they feel this way about the left, which partly explains why they do not read or hear the left's media and base their reactions to our media on second-hand accounts.)
The Republicans are going to misinterpret the results of this election, believing that the country is heading their way and that the majority of Americans are behind them. They will enact economic and social and environmental policies which are harmful to the American people. This is not the party of Lincoln. I learned recently that when Lincoln was visiting an army hospital in April '65, he went to every man in the hospital - Union and Conferederate alike, over 1000 in total - and spoke with each one of them. I can not see any Republican leader doing this - far too many lack empathy or even sympathy for their common man.
For the record, the Republicans have not expanded their base. Rather, it was the Democrats and other like-minded people who decided to sit this one out.
The Republicans are already moving forward with plans for comprehensive tax reform ("trickle-down economics") and redoing Medicare/Medicaid/Social Security. This is going to hurt many families - it is going to hurt our family. If they get the oppurtunity, the Republicans will enact many of the things on their platform. For those of us who believe in human dignity and rights, what the right will do will be devastating.
The Republicans are going to misinterpret the results of this election, believing that the country is heading their way and that the majority of Americans are behind them. They will enact economic and social and environmental policies which are harmful to the American people. This is not the party of Lincoln. I learned recently that when Lincoln was visiting an army hospital in April '65, he went to every man in the hospital - Union and Conferederate alike, over 1000 in total - and spoke with each one of them. I can not see any Republican leader doing this - far too many lack empathy or even sympathy for their common man.
For the record, the Republicans have not expanded their base. Rather, it was the Democrats and other like-minded people who decided to sit this one out.
The Republicans are already moving forward with plans for comprehensive tax reform ("trickle-down economics") and redoing Medicare/Medicaid/Social Security. This is going to hurt many families - it is going to hurt our family. If they get the oppurtunity, the Republicans will enact many of the things on their platform. For those of us who believe in human dignity and rights, what the right will do will be devastating.
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