Who is going to win this election in November?

[2takesfrakes]

I did not want either Clinton or Trump in office and I did not vote, this election. I don't see Trump making it as a 2 term president, he may even be the first to resign since Nixon, or even become impeached. The economy's not in any one Man's hands. But it is at a slow crawl in the right direction and if Trump doesn't get us into a war, that should only continue.

What would be more helpful than taxes, though, would be to make it easier for businesses to do business. There are tons of mandatory expenditures,. taxes and fees and all kinds of shit to keep me in the red. It's very hard to break out of and get ahead. I really would appreciate his deregulating business, somewhat, to make it possible for us to get ahead. As an Artist, I can't really go commercial the way I need to, with Uncle Sam's hands so deep in my pockets.

 

[fireproof78]

I did not want either Clinton or Trump in office and I did not vote, this election. I don't see Trump making it as a 2 term president, he may even be the first to resign since Nixon, or even become impeached. The economy's not in any one Man's hands. But it is at a slow crawl in the right direction and if Trump doesn't get us into a war, that should only continue.

What would be more helpful than taxes, though, would be to make it easier for businesses to do business. There are tons of mandatory expenditures,. taxes and fees and all kinds of shit to keep me in the red. It's very hard to break out of and get ahead. I really would appreciate his deregulating business, somewhat, to make it possible for us to get ahead. As an Artist, I can't really go commercial the way I need to, with Uncle Sam's hands so deep in my pockets.

I see that as a distinct possibility.

 

[Timby]

The economy's not in any one Man's hands. But it is at a slow crawl in the right direction and if Trump doesn't get us into a war, that should only continue.

The only way the economy is headed in the right direction is if you live on a planet where crack grows on trees and pure ethanol flows out of the faucet.

The Baltic Dry Index is only just beginning to recover from a five-year low (granted, part of that is due to events completely out of many shippers' control), initial jobless claims are just starting to come down from a five-year high, and the producer price index is totally flat. Any one of these indicators could be due to interfering environmental conditions, but all three of them happening at the same time suggests we're heading towards a major economic downturn in the semi-near future, particularly because we've reached a point where corporate profits are at an all-time high -- which generally means very poor things in the future for the working class, given that we know precisely how well trickle-down economics works.

 

[2takesfrakes]

Projections of the U.S. economy, 2014–24:
Slow growth, but improving

http://www.bls.gov/careeroutlook/2015/data-on-display/projections-economy.htm

 

[Timby]

Data from a year ago.

 

[JohnChod]

This entire post is a "both sides" fallacy.

Don't quite get how you can say that about the 'entire post.' I might grant your point in regard to paragraph four, although I did not claim equivalence of the two candidates behavior. A key point that I will continue to claim is that either choice was less than optimal.

 

[ichab]

But I'm not going to pretend it's a surprise. BLM have shown how racist the u.s has become..

All they've accomplished with their vandalism and terrorist tactics is that they hate police and white people.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

So, the election was rigged, right?

 

[Makarov]

Angry protestors disrupting downtown Chicago even though the state already went for Hillary. I feel sorry for the people that have to work there and I sure wouldn't want to be there with that tension.

""Look at these b----es," one marcher said, gesturing to the police.
"Oh, I'll show you a b---h," said one female officer in return, and protesters gathered closer -- some to confront the officer, and others attempting to pull their fellow demonstrators away."

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

So, the election was rigged, right?

No it's only gonna be rigged if Hillary won........

If Trump wins it's an honest win

 

[Markonian]

TV series, like the Trek franchise, are rooted in social progress, showing ethnic and other aspects of diversity. I'm looking forward to see social-commentary series like DSC and Grey's Anatomy taking the Trump presidency head-on.

Plus, I hope he has the wisdom not to tackle socially progressive megacorps like Apple. He'd stir the sleeping giant.

#IDIC #LLAP

 

[urbandefault]

This much is clear: 6% of the voting public voted for neither candidate.

There's some common ground, right there. Being pissed at them 6 percenters.

 

[Shaka Zulu]

TV series, like the Trek franchise, are rooted in social progress, showing ethnic and other aspects of diversity. I'm looking forward to see social-commentary series like DSC and Grey's Anatomy taking the Trump presidency head-on.

Plus, I hope he has the wisdom not to tackle socially progressive megacorps like Apple. He'd stir the sleeping giant.

#IDIC #LLAP

He's going to be the fascist he said he was, so what will you do?

Here's something (that was written six weeks ago, but that is very prescient now) for you and others here to digest: What Happens Now with a President-Elect Trump?

 

[Robert Maxwell]

Don't quite get how you can say that about the 'entire post.' I might grant your point in regard to paragraph four, although I did not claim equivalence of the two candidates behavior. A key point that I will continue to claim is that either choice was less than optimal.

"Less than optimal" is what our choices always are. That doesn't mean they are indistinguishable or equally poor.

 

[Dryson]

Hillary Clinton won the actual physical votes by 234,121 votes over Trump.
Trump did not win the election because he had more votes. Trump won the election because of the Electoral College.

The main issue with Trump's presidency is that during one of his rallies he had Joe Arpaio as a supporter. Joe Arpaio was under a criminal investigation for racial profiling while supporting Trump and attending Trump's rally. Joe Arpaio was recently found guilty of violating the judges order regarding contempt of court and racially profiling.

Because Trump had a supporter under criminal investigation at his rally for racial profiling, which would in Trump's world be a politically correct agenda because it allows Trump to basically say that someone is guilty of a crime for any reason Trump wants the person to be guilty even if the person is not in fact guilty of any crime, that Trump supported the illegal activity and promoted such activity during his rally willfully and knowingly making Trump an accessory to the same charges that Joe Arpaio was charged with and that his presidency should be nullified because of his willful association with a known criminal promoting a criminal agenda.

 

[fonzob1]

Hillary Clinton won the actual physical votes by 234,121 votes over Trump.
Trump did not win the election because he had more votes. Trump won the election because of the Electoral College.

The main issue with Trump's presidency is that during one of his rallies he had Joe Arpaio as a supporter. Joe Arpaio was under a criminal investigation for racial profiling while supporting Trump and attending Trump's rally. Joe Arpaio was recently found guilty of violating the judges order regarding contempt of court and racially profiling.

Because Trump had a supporter under criminal investigation at his rally for racial profiling, which would in Trump's world be a politically correct agenda because it allows Trump to basically say that someone is guilty of a crime for any reason Trump wants the person to be guilty even if the person is not in fact guilty of any crime, that Trump supported the illegal activity and promoted such activity during his rally willfully and knowingly making Trump an accessory to the same charges that Joe Arpaio was charged with and that his presidency should be nullified because of his willful association with a known criminal promoting a criminal agenda.

It doesn’t work that way. Good luck with your quest though.

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

First off why are people disappointed with the election result?

I find this rather odd that people on social media are complaining about the election result, and then when you ask them why they say they never voted, didn't want to vote.

So how can you complain then?

 

[CorporalCaptain]

First off why are people disappointed with the election result?

That's a stupid question, seriously.

 

[Saul]

First off why are people disappointed with the election result?

Not everyone is disappointed. I think the KKK must be happy.

 

[jamestyler]

That's a stupid question, seriously.

Not really, not in context.

While I don't believe that those who abstain from voting shouldn't have a voice (the governments there for them whether they voted or not) I do find it baffling the amount of people who complain about a result when they had their chance for their voice to be heard, they didn't bother ticking a box. - whether this one, or any vote which includes the Brexit situation.

Almost half the US didn't vote. I'm betting there are a lot of people in there that didn't want either, or said they didn't care. But if someone is enraged that Trump won, or Clinton didn't - yet didn't vote - what is the point in raising your voice after the fact, not when it actually mattered in an actual polling station?

I can understand and empathise with people who felt trapped or just couldn't make that decision - but a lot of people keep saying over here that their vote doesn't matter. If everyone who felt their vote didn't matter (yet wanted a particular result) actually voted, there would have been a very different result.