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Star Trek Continuity - your personal canon?

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Mine would include the old FASA role playing game, I've found the rule books/source books to be rich in history, ideas and details.

TAS.

The novels of John Ford and Diane Duane (of course Klingons play golf).

Many of the other Trek lit books up to and ending with the first relaunch. Post-relaunch books exist in their own pocket universe completely separate from Trek.

The contents of the ST: Tech Manual.

My canon would include my own ideas concerning the future's economic system, the organization of Starfleet, and the Federation as a alliance (not a nation-state).




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This can be a fun little game. Someone upthread said something about "things making sense." I like that but, of course, different people will interpret that in each their own way. Of course that's basically little different than just accepting what you like and rejecting what you don't like. :lol:

Over the years we've seen Trek play with branching timelines and alternate continuities. I can take this as a clue to reconciling some of the inconsistencies between series and films and whatever else in terms of continuity. So while everything appearing onscreen is inarguably canon I can see it as not necessarily canon in regard to another film or series.

To start, for me, TOS is gospel. That's Star Trek. But then it starts to get murky. I don't have any problems with what we see from the Pike era in "The Menagerie," but there are some small parts of original footage in "The Cage" that I just have to ignore. Namely, those bits about Pike not being used to having women on the Bridge. There's also the bit about Spock assuming command, ordering the ship to break orbit and fire retro rockets or some such. That's where I put my hands over my ears and hum loudly. :lol:

We really know next to nothing about the Pike era aboard the Enterprise, but Marvel Comics did have a short run series called Star Trek: Early Voyages that had some interesting stuff in it. I like to think some of that happened in the Pike era.

Post TOS I'm really tempted to look at Star Trek Continues as a credible continuation of TOS. Particularly when they do stories like "Lolani."

There's a lot I like in TAS, but there's also stuff there that makes me cringe. I don't like "Mudd's Passion," "More Tribbles, More Troubles" and "The Practical Joker," but there really isn't anything in them that I can justify rejecting them as not possibly happening. Same with a few TOS episodes. I really like the episode of "The Infinite Vulcan" BUT my brain freezes when we get a fifty-foot Spock clone. :wtf: I have to gloss over that one. And then I have a BIG problem with "The Counter-Clock Incident." I like the appearance of Robert and Sarah April, but the rest of the story is just too damned stupid.I can only conclude that there are chunks of TAS that went missing somehow--pieces that explained away some of the brain cramp moments. :lol:

While I enjoyed each of the films initially (in varying degrees) when they were released I now reject all but one of them as having happened in TOS' continuity. For me TMP is the only one that gels with what happened in TOS. That said I admit I have to squint a bit to reconcile some of the visual aspects of TMP with TOS. The rest of the films (TWOK-TUC) must have happened in some other somewhat familiar timeline. From this viewpoint there remains a large blank canvas as to what happened with the original TOS crew after the events of TMP. I did find some of the early Pocket Books novels interesting in terms of what some of their adventures could have been, at least broady if not in detail.


I used to completely reject TNG, but I've softened somewhat in certain regards. I can see something like TNG happening in TOS' future, particularly the first three or four seasons. That said there are details that I tend to gloss over that don't really gel for me. For the vast most part I don't think about the later seasons of TNG. I don't bother with DS9 or VOY either. Yeah, maybe something like those could have happened, but I don't really care. I just ignore it.

I also flat out reject ENT. It's canon unto itself, but for me it has nothing to do with the original continuity. It's an alternate timeline much like TWOK-TUC as well as the TNG films. And, of course, JJtrek.


If all that sounds convoluted, well, so be it. :lol:
 
When there's a conflict in canon, my personal continuity tends to favor the episodes I enjoy over those I don't. I count TAS, of course. No series or film is universally excluded. But really, I have multiple continuities. It's interesting to imagine might-have-beens, the continuity you would get if certain things hadn't been retconned. It's also interesting to imagine what TOS would have looked like, had it been made after ENT. I think that's, in a way, what we got in the Kelvin sequence in STXI.
 
Merlanthe, does your friend have any interest in the novels? Have you ever discussed the differences between the novels and the game? I just wonder why someone would accept one version as the true continuation over another version, when both to me seem to equally possible options. I'm guessing this guy doesn't read the books and counts the game because he plays, and likes, the game.

Sorry for the late reply Im not sure if he reads the novels or not I know he has the history of the federation but thats written like an actual history book not a novel. I think hes more into the tv series/movies and the online game than novels.

I havent gotten round to reading any of the trek novels yet if I ever do I probably wont consider them canon.
 
All TV shows and movies.

I do go with the (prime universe) idea that lasers were used during Pike's time, but that the technology was combined with the earlier phase weaponry in Archer's time to produce the more powerful than both phasers we know today.
 
All the live action stuff in the prime universe (though if it turns out that Nemesis was just a bad dream I had, I wouldn't complain), and all the relaunch stuff, just because it's all we've got at this point. The destruction of Romulus won't be canon until it shows up in a novel, and even then I'll be holding on to the hope that it's just hanging out with Gallifrey in a pocket universe somewhere.
 
I don't think about it too hard, but generally I include TAS, exclude Enterprise and Threshold, and pretend that STV:TFF was literally Kirk's dream.
 
See the Halloween movie franchise has it right. Their community breaks down all of the movies and connects them together but in sets of contiunites. Star Trek should do the same. In other words, yes everything shown on TV and film is canon it all happened but in different continuities that fit together. For instance, TOS/TAS/TMP. Then TWOK-TUC. Then TNG/DS9/VOY.
 
See the Halloween movie franchise has it right. Their community breaks down all of the movies and connects them together but in sets of contiunites. Star Trek should do the same. In other words, yes everything shown on TV and film is canon it all happened but in different continuities that fit together. For instance, TOS/TAS/TMP. Then TWOK-TUC. Then TNG/DS9/VOY.
I think if it that way anyway.
 
See the Halloween movie franchise has it right.
Speaking of Halloween...we generally prefer that long-dead threads aren't revived from their eternal slumber to terrorize the living.

http://www.trekbbs.com/threads/rules-a-short-guide-to-posting-on-the-bbs.282269/
- Resurrecting dead threads. If you find a thread that has not had a post in it in over a year, don't post in it. Start a new thread instead. You can, if necessary, link back to the old thread if something crucial is in the thread.

So I'm putting a stake through the heart of this one. Feel free to start a new thread if you feel the need.

Thanks.
 
Ah yes...that's probably why I didn't notice that this was a necro-thread at first...this one caught me first thing in the morning. :p
 
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