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Do you consider yourself left wing or right wing?


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Here are some of the political tests I've taken here:

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Victim blaming? I'm not talking about bullying...I'm talking about in-class discourse, which (one would hope, anyway) the professor would have a handle on. If people take a class, they are given a syllabus on the first day. Presumably, they read the syllabus. If something jumps out and they don't like certain subjects, they can drop the class in the first week (usually).

Avoidance of the issue not doing them any favors is exactly what I'm talking about. They're in college. It's about mixing and learning different things. But you're given a lot of choice, as well. You can easily avoid classes that you don't think you'd be comfortable with, and take a different path. It would be like a very conservative person taking "The History of Sex" or a Fundamentalist Christian taking a class on Hinduism. They don't have to. But if they do, they should be prepared to deal with material they aren't comfortable with. Don't ask to be excused because you don't like what's being discussed. Just don't take the class. If I was a professor, that would annoy me.

Now I'm sure it's different in poly-sci classes. I didn't take any of those when I was in school, but I'm sure that's where arguments happen. I did take a few sociology classes, though, and discussions/disagreements happened there...but nothing bad. Nothing that would be a scarring experience for a 20 year old.

I'm just basing this on the open letter that the dean of UVA (at least I think it was UVA....or was it Chicago?) wrote prior to this school year. It made the news because it said the school would not allow safe spaces to shield students from things that challenged their views. This was the first I'd heard of it. I had no idea it was even a thing.

I also don't mean to derail this thread. Sorry to the OP.

"Safe spaces" aren't about avoidance of issues. Neither are "trigger warnings," for that matter.

Safe spaces exist because it is understood that discourse, as it exists in our society, favors a default white heterosexual male viewpoint. There is nothing wrong with being a white heterosexual male, but it's not the only perspective out there worth hearing. Thus, the purpose of a safe space is to give other voices room to emerge and flourish.

This is a decent piece on the topic, and this quote in particular makes the point pretty well:

What’s wrong with being in an echo chamber if all that is being echoed is the idea that you are human and worthy of respect?

In a world that tries to deny the oppressed their humanity, there is nothing dogmatic about a safe space. On the contrary, safe spaces are fucking revolutionary.

The thing is, when people say "there will be no safe spaces here," or "I don't believe in safe spaces," what's really being said is "I think it's fine for me, as a relatively privileged person, to browbeat oppressed people until they shut up." A woman wants to talk about rape? Tell her about how women dress slutty and get what's coming to them. Native Americans want to talk about genocide? They should've just had a superior culture, like Europeans did. Black people complaining about slavery? Look, every culture had slaves, so stop whining and suck it up! Attacks on safe spaces are, by and large, justifications for parroting the same old arguments about the superiority of straight white men over everyone else. It is about silencing people who don't agree with that viewpoint.

It shouldn't be hard to see why that would be a bad thing, nor should it be difficult to grasp why a diversity of viewpoints, freely expressed in a welcoming environment, is a good thing.

Oh yeah, and I'm left as hell. :lol:
 
I see you have a communist symbol in your avatar. Are you a communist?

Between the rollerblading kid, the fried chicken, and the chrome "HOPE YOU HAVE AN AWESOME DAY," you think the Soviet flag is serious? :-p Just giving you a hard time.

Not a communist in the sense of wanting state ownership and control of all capital. I'm somewhere more in socialist/social democrat territory, which is to say that the government should have some control over the economy, perhaps up to and including certain vital capital (think public utilities and infrastructure), and strong safety nets including universal healthcare, housing/utility assistance and income assistance.

The US government doesn't do nearly enough in this regard, which I don't think is a controversial statement. :lol:
 
As an aside, the Political Compass sucks if you try to use it as a serious measure of political positions. It was designed by libertarians to, in essence, make leftists think they are actually libertarians.

That said, I always end up near the lower right corner.
 
Center-Left.

I believe in law and order, I also believe everyone should be respected.
 
As an aside, the Political Compass sucks if you try to use it as a serious measure of political positions. It was designed by libertarians to, in essence, make leftists think they are actually libertarians.

That said, I always end up near the lower right corner.

I am a communist anyways.
 
As an aside, the Political Compass sucks if you try to use it as a serious measure of political positions. It was designed by libertarians to, in essence, make leftists think they are actually libertarians.

That said, I always end up near the lower right corner.
Interesting description of the compass. I come out just about in the center of the lower left (left/libertarian) square, but wouldn't dream of supporting the Libertarian Party.
 
Left wing heart, right wing purse.

'The revolution will not be televised, it will be on youtube'
 
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If everything does go pear shaped next week, I would like to inform my international friends that I am a good cook, can clean house, do laundry, am cheerful, love to cuddle (when asked), and am quiet and unobtrusive. I don't drink, which means if one enjoys imbibing, I make an excellent wing person and/or designated driver.
 
By the political compass quiz (and my own self-perception generally), very much the exact center, only slightly right of center in the economic dimension.
 
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