Spoilers Supergirl - Season 2
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I can't wait either...but find it funny that this thread is 74 pages long, without a single episode airing yet!!!
It's been 5 months and we're finally here but now I can't watch because there's no sound on the CW channel so I'll have to wait.
2x01...
2x01...
Decent season premiere. The show maintains its decidedly brighter tone than the DCEU.
This was terrific. It's great to have the show back again. The action is still as big and comic-booky as ever, and we get twice the Super this time! This is just the kind of stuff I love to see in Superman/girl stories and superhero stories in general: Not big battles, but big rescues. And they really piled on the rescues. It was great.
And it's so refreshing to see an upbeat, well-adjusted Superman onscreen again. The character was well-handled, although I'm not entirely satisfied with Hoechlin's performance. He was perfectly adequate, but a little bland. Maybe he just needs time to grow into the role. Anyway, the writers certainly had fun with the Superman references. Miss Tessmacher, Luthor blowing up California, flying as the safest way to travel (said by a woman in a helicopter), etc. And Cat Grant's crush on Clark Kent is a nod to Lois and Clark.
I was looking forward to hearing Blake Neely's Superman theme, and it's not bad. It's very similar to Randy Edelman's theme to The Adventures of Brisco County, Jr., better known as the theme NBC used for its Olympics and other sports coverage for a number of years (even though that was a FOX show).
I was also concerned that the show might change on its new network. I feel the other CW superhero shows often feel more plot-driven and less driven by characters, conversations, and ideas. Sure, there's plenty of character soap opera, but it feels more driven by plot twists than introspection and philosophical discussions like the sort Kara and Cat tend to have, among others. So far, though, Supergirl still feels like it has much the same sensibilities and pacing as before, and that's reassuring. As for the change in location, it's noticeable; Catco and Kara's apartment have been recreated authentically on the Vancouver soundstage, but the DEO arbitrarily has a new HQ, and the skyline in the helicopter scene looked kind of Vancouvery, though they're still using stock LA establishing shots from last season.
I'm not sure I like the Kara/James relationship just arbitrarily being shut down before it even started; it feels like kind of a cheat. But at least their rationale for it makes sense -- a lot is changing in Kara's life right now, and it makes sense that she'd need time to figure things out instead of trying to tackle everything at once.
Anyway, I'm really looking forward to next week. I hope we get to see that conversation about Krypton and what Kal-El's parents were like.
And it's so refreshing to see an upbeat, well-adjusted Superman onscreen again. The character was well-handled, although I'm not entirely satisfied with Hoechlin's performance. He was perfectly adequate, but a little bland. Maybe he just needs time to grow into the role. Anyway, the writers certainly had fun with the Superman references. Miss Tessmacher, Luthor blowing up California, flying as the safest way to travel (said by a woman in a helicopter), etc. And Cat Grant's crush on Clark Kent is a nod to Lois and Clark.
I was looking forward to hearing Blake Neely's Superman theme, and it's not bad. It's very similar to Randy Edelman's theme to The Adventures of Brisco County, Jr., better known as the theme NBC used for its Olympics and other sports coverage for a number of years (even though that was a FOX show).
I was also concerned that the show might change on its new network. I feel the other CW superhero shows often feel more plot-driven and less driven by characters, conversations, and ideas. Sure, there's plenty of character soap opera, but it feels more driven by plot twists than introspection and philosophical discussions like the sort Kara and Cat tend to have, among others. So far, though, Supergirl still feels like it has much the same sensibilities and pacing as before, and that's reassuring. As for the change in location, it's noticeable; Catco and Kara's apartment have been recreated authentically on the Vancouver soundstage, but the DEO arbitrarily has a new HQ, and the skyline in the helicopter scene looked kind of Vancouvery, though they're still using stock LA establishing shots from last season.
I'm not sure I like the Kara/James relationship just arbitrarily being shut down before it even started; it feels like kind of a cheat. But at least their rationale for it makes sense -- a lot is changing in Kara's life right now, and it makes sense that she'd need time to figure things out instead of trying to tackle everything at once.
Anyway, I'm really looking forward to next week. I hope we get to see that conversation about Krypton and what Kal-El's parents were like.
Decent? Try freaking awesome.
This was the best episode of the series so far, and a fantastic way to usher in the show on its new homenetwork. The DCEU's Man of Steel was the first time I really truly came to like Superman because that movie was the first time that the character felt like a real person to me, but Tyler Hoechlin and the Supergirl writers made me feel the same way about this version of the character, and the way he plays off of Melissa Benoist is brilliant.
I really like this version of Lena Luthor; the way Katie McGrath played her reminded me of Smallville's take on Lex Luthor before everything went to crap with him and Clark, and has me hoping that we see a similar sort of friendship/relationship develop between her and Kara as we go forward. I also hope we get to see more of her being a bad*** because the way she took down John Corben was one of the cooler moments of the episode.
Calista Flockhart was on fire in this episode as Cat, proving yet again why she's going to be missed when she's not around. The way she was a big 'ol horndog for Clark was hilarious, and I love that she was back to mispronouncing Kara's name, albeit more affectionately than she ever had previously. I also love that she had an 'instinct' about Kara wanting to be a reporter.
It bothers me when shows try and do "course correction" retcons like what we got with Kara and James' relationship, but I have enough faith in the people behind Supergirl that I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt in this instance and wait and see where they're heading with the character.
J'onn and Clark being awkward and tense around each other adds an interesting layer to both characters, and it feels organic and believable to me that the DEO's use of Kryptonite would be a 'bridge too far' for Clark. I'm also interested to see what's going to happen next week when Clark's fears about Kryptonite come to fruition thanks to the newly resurrected John Corben.
Winn officially joining the DEO was a bit rushed and kind of felt like there was a scene or two missing that would've set it up better, but it does suit him a bit better than being the IT guy for CatCo, so I'm willing to forgive the disjointedness/abruptness and just roll with it.
I did find it interesting that they retconned the final scene of Better Angels and turned it into a big action sequence, but I guess they felt like they couldn't just do a "cold open" that was a beat-for-beat recap of where they'd left off.
And, finally, I knew Brenda Strong was The Doctor the moment we heard that she had landed a recurring role in the series, and that scene where she comes in and talks to a comatose John Corben gave me chills and reminded me of the Supergirl Pilot stinger with General Astra revealing herself.
I'm so happy Supergirl is back, and can't wait for next week's episode.
McGrath was good -- and is still gorgeous -- but her American accent needs work. Some Irish pronunciations snuck through now and then.
I got the sense that Cat was starting to feel dissatisfied with her status quo and that her own advice to Kara inspired her to make a change, which will probably explain why she's around less going forward. I thought we'd just be seeing less of her because Kara was off in her own office now.
Although she did get it right when she talked about being the best Kara Danvers she could be.
Meanwhile, Flockhart is doing a pretty dead-on Gene Hackman impression when yelling "Miss Tessmacher!" (Even though they've changed the spelling from Teschmacher, perhaps as a nod to Smallville's Tess Mercer, who was in turn a nod to Miss Teschmacher and Mercy Graves.) It's a cute homage, but it's odd to hear Cat addressing her assistant by her last name. Did Kara have to work her way up from "Miss Danvers" to "Kira?" And how do you mispronounce "Eve?"
I'm not sure I like it that that's her choice. I mean, they just spent a season establishing Supergirl as a distinct character in her own right and not just a Superman clone, and now they're giving Kara the same job as Clark?
Yeah, that made sense. Especially since it's just been a day since I read that Superman/Batman comics storyline where the two of them tried to rid the Earth of all kryptonite and Superman got really gung-ho about it. (Actually re-read it, without meaning to -- I got a trade paperback from the library without realizing that was the back half of it, and I was partway through it before I remembered that I'd read it once before.)
Tying Metallo's origin to Cadmus is novel. Nice to see Brenda Strong again (and hear her -- I like her voice).
Well, he was already heading in that direction in the latter part of season 1 anyway, so I feel we already got the setup. This was just formalizing it. And heck, they need someone at the DEO to give exposition now that Brianna Venskus (Agent Vasquez) has switched universes and become a SHIELD agent.
More like they just filled in what happened between the moment when Kara and J'onn flew out the window and the moment where they caught up with the already-landed pod. And it fit in with the focus I praised earlier, the emphasis on rescues and protecting the public as the basis of the action.
You know, if the show stays this good, it might make it harder to like the other shows in comparison, unless they up their game. Honestly, it occurs to me that Supergirl is the most competent superhero on the network right now. The Flash just broke history with his selfishness, the Green Arrow has regressed to a dark phase and lost his team, and the Legends are pretty much defined by being screwups. Hopefully Kara will knock some sense into the lot of them when she visits Earth-1 for the big crossover.
Perhaps it's a role reversal from last season?
Season 1: Jimmy wasn't interested in Kara, but Kara was interested in Jimmy.
Season 2: Kara isn't interested in Jimmy, but Jimmy is interested in Kara.
Or perhaps the chemistry just wasn't there.
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@Christopher: Actually, she pronounced "Kara" in the instance you cited with a soft 'a' (like "cat"), not the hard 'a' (like "ball") that she used in the finale when she said her name accurately for the first time all season.
agreed. not crazy about it. in order to find herself or whatever she decides to do exactly what Clark is doing?
^ It's not actually that weird. I was going to follow two of my cousins into computer programming at one point, and would have had I been able to stay current on the curriculum I was studying.
I heard it as "Kah-ra." I'm not even sure you could pronounce "Kara" with the same a as in "cat" -- I'm trying to say that out loud and that vowel just doesn't work with an R after it.
I noticed in my recent first-season Netflix binge that in the first few episodes, Cat pronounced Kara's name like "Kair-uh," or like "carrot" without the T, before it evolved into "Kira." So it went from being just a variant pronunciation of "Kara" to a completely different name. There was even one instance where she said "Cora," but it was at a point where she was particularly peeved at Kara's recent behavior (including J'onn's behavior impersonating her, I think), so she was making a point of getting it wronger than usual.
^ Now that I think about it, using "cat" as my soft 'a' example wasn't the best choice; I should've used "carrot" the way you did.
As far as what you heard goes, Cat definitely used the "Kair--uh" pronunciation again in the scene you cited.
As far as what you heard goes, Cat definitely used the "Kair--uh" pronunciation again in the scene you cited.
That's not how I heard it. Maybe we're thinking of different scenes.
Ok, I have two questions.
1) What happened to Lucy Lane. She wasn't mentioned at all in this episode and I thought she and Jonn were partners running the DEO
2) Was it me or did Cat's office look brighter. You can tell they changed filming locations and it looked beautiful actually. The show may be on the CW, but in terms of budget, I didn't notice a decrease in budget.
Other than that, I loved this premiere. Loved seeing Superman and Supergirl side by side, and the guy who plays Superman is really good for the role. This is the superman I know, not the broading guy from Batman vs. Superman. Also loved Kara realizing she needs to find out who she was and how her promotion was not brushed aside, but really served as a side plot to this episode. I hate most cliffhangers which feel like they are resolved in the first few minutes. This felt like a true continuation of the finale and I loved it. Supergirl is back with a vengeance. Can't wait to dig deeper into season 2.
1) What happened to Lucy Lane. She wasn't mentioned at all in this episode and I thought she and Jonn were partners running the DEO
2) Was it me or did Cat's office look brighter. You can tell they changed filming locations and it looked beautiful actually. The show may be on the CW, but in terms of budget, I didn't notice a decrease in budget.
Other than that, I loved this premiere. Loved seeing Superman and Supergirl side by side, and the guy who plays Superman is really good for the role. This is the superman I know, not the broading guy from Batman vs. Superman. Also loved Kara realizing she needs to find out who she was and how her promotion was not brushed aside, but really served as a side plot to this episode. I hate most cliffhangers which feel like they are resolved in the first few minutes. This felt like a true continuation of the finale and I loved it. Supergirl is back with a vengeance. Can't wait to dig deeper into season 2.
What an exciting premiere! I too liked the various references to Superman.
I loved Tyler Hoechlin on Teen Wolf, and he pulled it off as the Man of Steel. With or without the beard, he looks hot.
There was a dialogue in which Kal mentioned Kryptonians age slowly on Earth, which explains why he and Kara look about the same age, though Clark got a ??-year headstart on his cousin. Though chronologically, Kara is older by over a decade, but I digress.
Does this mean Superman will be around National City for awhile? I can't help thinking he'll take the spotlight away from Supergirl, from both narrative and TV viewing standpoint. This is her show after all.
I loved Tyler Hoechlin on Teen Wolf, and he pulled it off as the Man of Steel. With or without the beard, he looks hot.
There was a dialogue in which Kal mentioned Kryptonians age slowly on Earth, which explains why he and Kara look about the same age, though Clark got a ??-year headstart on his cousin. Though chronologically, Kara is older by over a decade, but I digress.Does this mean Superman will be around National City for awhile? I can't help thinking he'll take the spotlight away from Supergirl, from both narrative and TV viewing standpoint. This is her show after all.
^ 1) Clark is 12 years older, now, than Kara is, as specifically cited by Winn, which in turn led to the "Kryptonians age slower" comment.
2) Clark is sticking around until next episode, after which he'll head back to Metropolis.
Incidentally, the comments about the Midwest and Kansas seemed to confirm that the show's version of that city is located in that state/region of the country (just as it was on Smallville) as opposed to on the East Coast the way that it sometimes/typically has been.
2) Clark is sticking around until next episode, after which he'll head back to Metropolis.
Incidentally, the comments about the Midwest and Kansas seemed to confirm that the show's version of that city is located in that state/region of the country (just as it was on Smallville) as opposed to on the East Coast the way that it sometimes/typically has been.
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