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do harry and paris ever announce their love

were harry and paris having an affair


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It's actually a cute scene I think. She asks why he hasn't been promoted

I caught up with most of Voyager out of order on a rewatch, I also may not have been paying attention as it was when I took up Trek with my toddler.
Will keep an eye out when I go through again.

That sounds like a normal mum thing, as opposed to the stereotype. The stereotype would be asking why he wasn't first officer yet and then sending Janeway a letter trying to persuade her to make that change.

Harry's biggest sin from day one is that he is...meh. I find it amusing that he is the first Voyager crew member Bells meets, and nicknames Starfleet, and then he ends up best buddies/little brother to her future husband.

Did Bells meet Tom when he was in Chakotays crew for ten minutes?
The pieces were in play for the Voyager family very early on....Chakotay is like Bells dad, Janeway is like Harry's aunt or mother....that would have made the Harry/7 thing weird.

I blame banjo man.
 
I felt embarrassed for harry, actually.

Isn't that the default position for Harry in practically any episode though?
Kidnapped....given the clap....failing with the DeLaney sisters...can't get promoted...

Sometimes I think he is a section 31 deep cover agent. No one could be that downtrodden...and every time we see him operating outside of that, he gets to be a badass. (Parallel universe usually...where he can outrun starfleet security, fight Klingons, steal starships...)
 
Isn't that the default position for Harry in practically any episode though?
Kidnapped....given the clap....failing with the DeLaney sisters...can't get promoted...

Sometimes I think he is a section 31 deep cover agent. No one could be that downtrodden...and every time we see him operating outside of that, he gets to be a badass. (Parallel universe usually...where he can outrun starfleet security, fight Klingons, steal starships...)

When you say "clap" I assume you don't mean gonorrhea but that time when he was glowing in the dark. Or do you have something else in mind?
 
When you say "clap" I assume you don't mean gonorrhea but that time when he was glowing in the dark. Or do you have something else in mind?

Actually I was going with the STD variant...he glowed in the dark? Really? See...just embarrassing. He's like one of those uncomfortable Frasier episodes given human form.

He is really really unlucky. Like he and Neelix should start a club and never stand on transporter pads together. Imagine Tuvix...with these two you would have ended up with two upper torsos joined at the waist or four legs and no upper Torso like something from Silent Hill...and then Janeway would have kept it on doing both their jobs. That's how unlucky these two are.
 
Ironically, I don't know about anyone else in the UK, but he seemed not at all like the east Asia stereotypes to me. He didn't do Kung fu once, and we never saw his mother. Even sulu did the martial arts Bruce Lee thing. Before Bruce Lee .
Harry was....white American. He was kenny G without the hair. His name was Harry for goodness sake. I am surprised he didn't work in Neelix cafe or deliver milk.
No, Harry was a different type of Asian stereotype than the chopsocky Kung Fu nonsense.

Harry exemplified how males of East Asian heritage have often been perceived in real life in American society... the "model minority," mild-mannered, nerdy, excelling in academics, playing classical music, being meek and submissive rather than a "take charge" type, and not really portrayed as sexy or attractive in a conventionally masculine way. Basically, non-threatening to the white majority power structure.

Kor
 
No, Harry was a different type of Asian stereotype than the chopsocky Kung Fu nonsense.

Harry exemplified how males of East Asian heritage have often been perceived in real life in American society... the "model minority," mild-mannered, nerdy, excelling in academics, playing classical music, being meek and submissive rather than a "take charge" type, and not really portrayed as sexy or attractive in a conventionally masculine way. Basically, non-threatening to the white majority power structure.

Kor

I guess I just don't see that stereotype enough to recognise it. He's basically one step above Reg Barclay and Wesley it seems. The Pavel Chekov of the nineties.

He does take charge sometimes though, isn't he proactive even in caretaker...when he meets Bells?

I admit, I find it hard recognising a lot of stereotypes, because of when and where I grew up, but also because I always assumed -particularly with Trek and it's future- that everyone basically being similar, especially in how they are treated, and not shining a light on their ethnicity in an over the top manner was supposed to be a good thing.
It's one of the things I find odd about the Big Bang Theory, in much the same way Worf had to be more Klingon than Klingon, American TV characters always have to be more x than x. Indians all have funny voices and odd traditions, every East Asian ever is a black belt, and every Texan is a cowboy.

I won't even mention the conflation of Europeans or us English Chaps.
 
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I guess I just don't see that stereotype enough to recognise it. He's basically one step above Reg Barclay and Wesley it seems. The Pavel Chekov of the nineties.

That's funny. I never made the connection between Chekov and Kim.
 
After mass globalization, world war three, fall to barbarism, and the universal translator, anyone that appears to be a stereotype is faking it, or has been artificially manipulated by their parents, to "patriotically" artificially regenerate a stereotype... You know, like what happened in The Village.
 
I've been marathoning Psych, they complained about the Village yesterday, which is when I remembered that complaining about this movie used to be a "thing".

The Village was okay, but could have easily been told better as a 42 minute episode of the Outer Limits, and most probably was.

Disillusioned Americans in the 1980s and 90s, buy land, embargo the air space above, and pretend it's 1750 AD. After they start having children, they maintain the illusion that it is 1760-something AD, and have to go to some lengths to persist that this fiction is fact, like claiming that there are monsters at the rim of the village who must be avoided, which is actually the parents in Scooby Doo monster costumes, so the kids don't find the electrified fences at their property boundary.
 
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I've been marathoning Psych, they complained about the Village yesterday, which is when I remembered that complaining about this movie used to be a "thing".

The Village was okay, but could have easily been told better as a 42 minute episode of the Outer Limits.

Disillusioned Americans in the 1980s and 90s, buy land, embargo the air space above, and pretend it's 1750 AD. After they start having children, they maintain the illusion that is 1760-something AD, and have to go to some lengths to persist that this fiction is fact, like claiming that there are monsters at the rim of the village who must be avoided, which is actually the parents in Scooby Doo monster costumes, so the kids don't find the electrified fences at their property boundary.

The plot seems really goofy/
 
We don't find out about the twist, till right at the end.

It's %90 about a bunch of dopey Pilgrim kids from 1768, talking about how scary the monsters are threatening their village, and how they should tool up and slay a few of them.
 
Harry did not have an STD. He was biochemically bonded aka bonded for life. The disease was an analogy to the symptoms we experience when we 'fall in love' you all know this right?
 
Space herpes.

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Harry did not have an STD. He was biochemically bonded aka bonded for life. The disease was an analogy to the symptoms we experience when we 'fall in love' you all know this right?

Of course. But that would ruin the unlucky Harry aspect of it. That and that part of the story was a bit clumsy. Harry isn't even allowed to have a broken heart without there being a biochemical imbalance.

Poor poor floppy haired Harry.

Maybe once they got back to earth, in one of those parallel worlds, he both got promoted and settled down with both DeLanies.
 
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