Does anyone like TMP uniforms?
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Which may have been part of the idea to obfuscate it.
Out of all of ranks, the one that matters most - the Captain's pin - looks the most stupid.
It looks like a candy in it's wrapper
I think that largely happened because Robert Fletcher was no longer the costume designer.
Not merely that Nilo Rodis Jamero took over, but that his staff didn't have the same interest in making sure everyone's costume looked correct that Fletcher's staff did. It's possible that they didn't have Fletcher's notes, and were winging it.
Hell, I had Fletcher's notes.
Well, he did the same thing when he took over from John Mollo for Return of the Jedi: Almost all the Imperial officers wear the same rank insignia. Rodis-Jamero might have been a good effects or production design guy but for costumes I don't think he's in the same league with Fletcher and Mollo.
You should have given them back, then.
Back in the 80's I would throw fits at any reference material that got the lieutenant
(as seen on the Grissom) rank pin vs. lieutenant jg pins (Saavik) wrong. And that would be most (all?) of them.
That's basically what I was saying, just not in so many words.
Spock had the red-backed "engineering" badge in TMP (due to his temporary assignment), so maybe he should have had a dreaded red shirt in your re-creation!
They're all red shirts now so I knew they were going to die
Actually, Spock's badge had an Orange background designating Scientific Research & Technical Branch, whereas Engineers were designated by a red background and Security and Services (presumably Yeoman, Storesman, Mess et al).
The yeomen had badges of the same colour as their departments. So Kirk's yeoman would have a white badge. I think the orange they chose needed toning down as in some shots it is hard to tell science from engineering. Security and tactical was grey - possibly including phaser and photon crews?
I confess I rather like that they dyed the security whites red from TWoK onwards. It just feels right...
I like them. I particularly like kirk's dress uniform. It could be because I got used to them at a very young age and never thought to critique them. I'm not sure if I would like them as much looking at them objectively but I do think they match the overall tone of the film.
And, of course, if Nick Meyer hadn't had them replaced, we probably wouldn't be having this conversation.
That's not so much militarization as specialization in TMP. Trek has always depicted Starfleet as having defense systems and security personnel, but TMP separated almost everything into their own divisions, whereas before most were combined with others.
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