What they should have done...

[2takesfrakes]

Small when compared to the Delta Flyer, which could also be a bomb in a pinch, but large compared to most other things because of the energy expenditure in making something ready to go big boom.



This discussion is interesting--seems they don't actually hit zero torps until Night in season 5. That's not so bad continuity-wise:

http://scifi.stackexchange.com/questions/23850/how-did-voyager-replace-its-photon-torpedoes

Also I don't know if you'd include the ST Tech Manual as acceptable canon--I don't ordinarily count book anything--but it does say you can build torps with planetary materials, which makes sense, because it's that or replication or nothing, and Voyager had plenty of access to planets. While I wouldn't ordinarily count anything off screen as canon, in this case it's one or the other in 24th-century Trek, given the right tools: either you replicate, or you build from raw materials gathered on planets or in space. Torps have to be manufacturable somehow. So I accept that they built them from planetary stuff based on the logic of process of elimination.

It's nice to know that some actual thought went into what VOYAGER's needs would've been, as they went. But would it not have made more sense to just say, "screw the photon torpedoes" and just relied on phasers. Have B'Elanna add more cannons, or whatever the balls you call them ... turrets, I guess. That would've made Life a little easier, would it not?

 

[Vandervecken]

It's nice to know that some actual thought went into what VOYAGER's needs would've been, as they went. But would it not have made more sense to just say, "screw the photon torpedoes" and just relied on phasers. Have B'Elanna add more cannons, or whatever the balls you call them ... turrets, I guess. That would've made Life a little easier, would it not?

Would Janeway want to give up torps in the Delta quadrant? Torpedoes are more versatile than phasers; they can deliver all kinds of payloads. You'd at least want to make those motive casing units, which is probably harder to do anyway than the photonic bomb part.

Man though I do like the idea of turrets on Voyager--the Warship Voyager hah. Some should fire some sort of high-velocity corrosive shrapnel with nanoprobe cores. Others should fire a scaled-down 8472 bolt. Others project a photonic battering ram. Yeah.

 

[LJones41]

By the time Voyager got home, it should have looked looked somewhat run down with a mix of alien and federation technology. I think some major damage should have been beyond their abilities without use of repair facilities and required the use of equipment and parts from Delta Quadrant Races.

One of the big nitpicks of the show was the endless supply of shuttles and torpedoes Voyager had. They could have easily used alien craft to replace their lost shuttles as well as alien weaponry.

Neelix's kitchen was a great addition, showing how they needed to actually harvest real food rather than rely on replicators all the time, as well as the hydroponics bay. They really should have continued along those lines, making drastic changes in order to keep the ship going and its crew alive.

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First of all, VOYAGER has its share of non-Federation technology . . . even Borg technology, thanks to Seven and a few of the deserted Borg ships they have encountered. Two, if the crew was able to construct the Delta Flyer, why would some of you assume that they were not able to construct other shuttles that they had lost? Has anyone considered this? The Hypoponics Bay WAS USED to harvest real food. Good grief! Didn't anyone realize this?

Wait a minute? Why am I trying to defend this? Why do I even bother? Why aren't some of you posting threads about what they should have done with the other shows? Because those shows were led by men, instead of a woman?

Every time I come across these threads, I feel as if I'm encountering a version of those STAR WARS fans who bash the Prequel Trilogy for every little thing, while pretending that the Original Trilogy and "The Force Awakens" have little or no flaws. AGAIN . . . many Trek fans seemed to be pushing this idea that "Voyager" had tons of flaws, while the other Trek shows - had little or none. And I know damn well that isn't the truth.

 

[Phoenix219]

Really? Because she's a woman? Not because of questionable command decisions in-universe, and a complete glossing over of half of the innate potential the show had built into its gimmick? Total burnout from 21 consecutive seasons of Trek? But no, its because of who was the damn Captain? SMDH.

 

[Anwar]

Really? Because she's a woman? Not because of questionable command decisions in-universe, and a complete glossing over of half of the innate potential the show had built into its gimmick? Total burnout from 21 consecutive seasons of Trek? But no, its because of who was the damn Captain? SMDH.

You can't deny she gets a ton more flack than any other Captain. Even NuKirk and Archer.

 

[Phoenix219]

You can't deny she gets a ton more flack than any other Captain. Even NuKirk and Archer.

She's made a lot more really questionable command decisions... weak writing / poor decision making for the character via the writers, has nothing to do with gender.

 

[at Quark's]

I have no problem with these torpedoes. Yes, there's the "and no way to replace them after they're gone"- line, but that was said way back in early season 1, episode 6. I'd imagine they gradually got better in producing such items on their own. Building the delta flyer in season 1 -even without the added Borg technology- probably would have been beyond their capabilities at that time.

 

[Sophie74656]

She's made a lot more really questionable command decisions... weak writing / poor decision making for the character via the writers, has nothing to do with gender.

Examples of poor decisions?

 

[Anwar]

She's made a lot more really questionable command decisions... weak writing / poor decision making for the character via the writers, has nothing to do with gender.

You can find questionable stuff among all the Captains.

 

[LJones41]

Really? Because she's a woman? Not because of questionable command decisions in-universe, and a complete glossing over of half of the innate potential the show had built into its gimmick? Total burnout from 21 consecutive seasons of Trek? But no, its because of who was the damn Captain? SMDH.

Yes, because she is a woman who is the lead of a Star Trek series. I'm sure that you'll deny it,but I still believe that is the true reason. I'm not claiming that "Voyager" is better. But it's no worse than the other shows.

really can not defend any of janeways command decisions : the do not even have an interior logic to the character : the character is just badly written

In other words, she is a female Starfleet captain who is the lead of a Trek series.