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Nicholas Meyer and the "Director's Cuts" of Star Trek II and VI

Whodunnits normally have a reveal at the end of some kind with a batch of "here's how it went down" exposition. Scooby Doo hardly invented that.
Yes, but Scooby Doo started the trope of the reveal being a mask removed from someone's head. Every. Single. Rotten. Time.

Kor
 
Where as Scooby Doo's monster reveals are the "be all end all" of it's respected show, the reveal of Col. West was NOT the point of the movie. He was just a player in the grand conspiracy of many players.
 
It doesn't help that there is an off-screen voice saying, "It's Colonel West!" to make sure we recognize him. :)
 
As Kor stated, the idiocy of Scooby Doo, is that every single episode had the same moronic plot repeated again. And even as a little kid I was disgusted that every episode was the same and as a young genre fan I hated the fact that every episode had a supernatural theme that was to be proven a fake.
Why do the morons think ANYTHING is haunted when every single time it turns out to be a guy pulling a hoax. What a trash show.
To say that other shows and movies can't have a masked or disguised character because it was the staple of a witless cartoon is ridiculous.
If an quality show or movie has a trope fine, but to disqualify a concept because a stupid kids show used it....
 
When I first saw Scooby Doo, (Where Are You? the original show, watched from the beginning), the demasking reveal trope was fresh and new. What many don't realize it that Scooby Doo had been intended for primetime and been cast to Saturday mornings during a slow purge of animation from primetime, where it was far from idiotic.

You may well have seen later seasons after the storylines began to be dumbed down. Remember, Scrappy Doo was a stupid idea, adding comic relief to a show that already had it, and worse, then dumping the serious leads and giving their role to the original comic relief so that Scrappy could scream "Puppy Power!" and offend all the older fans.
 
I loved Psycho until the Scooby Doo ending.
I know you're joking, but the scene following that in the police station with the ridiculous amount of exposition really kills the mood. The '60s was a much different time, but still, we're not dummies!
 
You know, I'd really love to see an open-matte version of Star Trek VI.

Cropping Super 35 to 2.39 just seems like a waste. Yes, it's the theatrical version, and I never want them to remove that from existence or alter it, but since the Director's Cut is already opened up to 2:1, why not go all the way and provide us with a 16:9 full screen version?

As long as it's been protected for of course, just as many Super 35 films were protected for 4:3 home video.
 
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I suppose if they re-release it -- it will be however Meyer wants it. But glad it is preserved in 2:35 theatrical. Dec 6 is exact 25th anniversary of TUC and falls on a Tuesday this year!
It would be a great treat if they released it that day. They have the Animated series coming out in mid Nov with no official announcement yet. So if they were planning a TUC anniversary edition -- it wouldn't have been announced yet.
 
I suppose if they re-release it -- it will be however Meyer wants it. But glad it is preserved in 2:35 theatrical. Dec 6 is exact 25th anniversary of TUC and falls on a Tuesday this year!
It would be a great treat if they released it that day. They have the Animated series coming out in mid Nov with no official announcement yet. So if they were planning a TUC anniversary edition -- it wouldn't have been announced yet.
It'd be wonderful to get a new transfer this Christmas, but I won't get my hopes up.
 
TUC is my favourite of all the Trek movies. I also think it's the film with the worst amount of DNR on blu-ray. I'd love it if it were re-scanned and issued as a 25th anniversary collectible edition. And that's from someone who has purchased it 3 times on various VHS releases, once on laser disc, once on DVD and once on blu-ray! Aint I the sucker!!
 
Well, at this point everybody who is a Trek movie fan has all the movies on disc.
So if they want to sell TUC to us again, they pretty much have to do more than put it in new packaging.
Whether it's this year or any other, they will have to restore the film and add the DC.
Other than that, they have sold the movie for the last time.
And as far as a 4K release -- the current scan would look like garbage in 4K. So they can't just throw the current version onto that format and resell it.
To sell it again (besides the stray person picking up the current unsold discs) will require some upgrade. It would be nice if SOMEBODY at Paramount had noted TUCs anniversary this year.
But no, I'm not getting my hopes up.
 
I loved Scooby Doo until the Scooby Doo ending. Wait... :confused:

Anyway, I haven't seen the DC of TUC in years. Did it also have the Scooby Doo ending? If memory serves, the theatrical version on blu ray does not have that ridiculous scene.

Kor
 
Why do the morons think ANYTHING is haunted when every single time it turns out to be a guy pulling a hoax.

The reason Scooby had staying power and remains a viable IP is because while it was first presented as a straight whodunnit with a comedic overlay, the tropes became so predictable that people just started to treat it as camp. To this day I don't think anyone watches scooby in order to ponder the mysteries. It's just the slapstick between Shaggy and Scoob and the fact that the plot seems to always follow such a predictable pathway.
 
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