Spoilers The Good Place - Season 1
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It looks very funny! I plan on giving it a try.
Definitely agree. Kristen Bell is great in this show.
Can you elaborate? Are you referring to the fact that the show portrays Heaven as being mismanaged and capable of letting in the "wrong" people or that it portrays Heaven as a weird utopia where only amazing humanitarians are allowed entrance and everyone else goes to the "other place"? I've only watched the first half of the pilot so far. So if there is a big twist at the end, don't tell me.
I only watched the first episode. Chuckled a few times and that was it. I was mildly bored.
The whole only the absolute very very best people go to "The Good Place" and everyone else goes to "The Bad Place" thing is a little odd, but I wouldn't be surprised if we learned that there was more to it as the show went on.
I really enjoyed the show overall.
Kristen Bell, Ted Danson and the rest of the cast were great. Danson was especially good as Michael started panicking over all the stuff going wrong.
I thought the writing and humor worked really well overall.
I loved how all of the stuff going wrong tied back directly to what Eleanor was saying or doing.
The only real issue I had was the fact that I thought the flashbacks to when Eleanor was alive seemed kind of unnecessary. I understand how they were trying to show what she was like, and the ones in Chapter Two did tie into how selfish she was, but her actions in The Good Place were already showing us that clearly and so the flashbacks just felt like they were telling us things we already knew.
I really enjoyed the show overall.
Kristen Bell, Ted Danson and the rest of the cast were great. Danson was especially good as Michael started panicking over all the stuff going wrong.
I thought the writing and humor worked really well overall.
I loved how all of the stuff going wrong tied back directly to what Eleanor was saying or doing.
The only real issue I had was the fact that I thought the flashbacks to when Eleanor was alive seemed kind of unnecessary. I understand how they were trying to show what she was like, and the ones in Chapter Two did tie into how selfish she was, but her actions in The Good Place were already showing us that clearly and so the flashbacks just felt like they were telling us things we already knew.
I liked those little clips of how she was. They were hilarious.
Never heard of this show but decided to check it out last night after I saw this thread. Hate to add another show to the roster but this looks fun and I want to see where it goes because I agree that the premise seems rather thin for a long-running series.
Yeah, even though she apparently did good things Tahani doesn't strike me as a good person overall.http://www.cbr.com/genre-stalwart-drew-goddard-goes-for-laughs-on-nbcs-the-good-place/
My theory right now is that everything happening with Eleanor will lead to some sort of a reevaluation of their point system. If Tahani is really not as good as her actions seem, then she could possibly also make that reevaluation necessary from the other side. Basically Eleanor is a good person deep down who did bad things, while Tahani is a bad person deep down who did good things.
CBR posted an interview with Drew Goddard on Sunday where he talks about The Good Place a little bit. He does say that each episodes ends on a character or plot revelation, so it sounds like there will be quite a few twists and turns as the season goes on.
So do we have any theories about who left the note at the end? My main theories right now are either Jianyu or Juliet. I wouldn't be surprised if Jianyu ends up being a very observant person who notices all of the things Eleanor does that nobody else but Chidi is aware of. Juliet must be aware of a lot of what is going on in the neighborhood if she is able to just pop up the instant someone asks for her. I wouldn't be surprised if she was aware of what everyone was doing and saying at all times.
My theory right now is that everything happening with Eleanor will lead to some sort of a reevaluation of their point system. If Tahani is really not as good as her actions seem, then she could possibly also make that reevaluation necessary from the other side. Basically Eleanor is a good person deep down who did bad things, while Tahani is a bad person deep down who did good things.
CBR posted an interview with Drew Goddard on Sunday where he talks about The Good Place a little bit. He does say that each episodes ends on a character or plot revelation, so it sounds like there will be quite a few twists and turns as the season goes on.
So do we have any theories about who left the note at the end? My main theories right now are either Jianyu or Juliet. I wouldn't be surprised if Jianyu ends up being a very observant person who notices all of the things Eleanor does that nobody else but Chidi is aware of. Juliet must be aware of a lot of what is going on in the neighborhood if she is able to just pop up the instant someone asks for her. I wouldn't be surprised if she was aware of what everyone was doing and saying at all times.
She definitely appears to be basically be a search engine or internet in semi-human form, but I wasn't surprised if there was more to her than there appears to be. The way Goddard talked about character and plot revelations, I'm expecting some surprises as the season goes on, but I will admit I could be expecting more than we'll actually end up getting.
That (the bolded part) about covers it. I didn't want to get too specific until more people saw the episode. I'm hoping it's all a bit of a misdirect, though. I can't see how anybody would be happy in that type of afterlife. You're either being tortured for eternity, or you're a supposedly super-moral person who has to exist with the knowledge that almost all of humanity is being tortured for eternity. I can't imagine supposedly "super-moral" people would be so indifferent to that type of situation, so I hope there's a lot more to it.
Edit: Of course, I've always found the idea of hell to be immoral. Eternity is a really long time (to say the least), so I don't see why there shouldn't be an option for rehabilitating even the worst of us. And that's not even getting into the various religions that believe hell is automatic if you don't subscribe to one particular set of beliefs ('sorry, you chose the wrong religion...eternal damnation for you...'). That's just messed up, imo.
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I see your point. As Michael explains, the system rewards good works instead of good character. So people can get in based on good things they did, regardless of whether their heart is really good or not. I definitely think that Bell's character is going to play a pivotal role in fixing the system. By accidentally letting in a "bad person" who is really good inside, it reveals the unfairness of the system and will lead to change.
Plus, I don't know exactly what it is, but there is something a bit creepy about the neighborhood. Maybe it is just that movies and shows have conditioned us to question when something looks too perfect and nice.
I think it's important to keep in mind that this is not meant to be Heaven and Hell, so we shouldn't make any assumptions based on those specific concepts. Remember, Michael said the religions only got about 5% correct.
IGN has a new interview with Michale Shur, but just to warn you there are no real insights into the story, it's mostly just about where his ideas came from and the casting of Kristen Bell and Ted Danson.
IGN has a new interview with Michale Shur, but just to warn you there are no real insights into the story, it's mostly just about where his ideas came from and the casting of Kristen Bell and Ted Danson.
True. The screaming (misdirect or not) didn't seem like a good sign for 'The Other Place.' Though, perhaps they're just playing in the supernatural equivalent of a first-person shooter videogame.
I have a feeling that the writers might be going somewhere interesting, but I doubt a large enough audience will stick around to find out. It's definitely an odd show.