Jennifer Lien status

[Sophie74656]

We all have different opinions about acting skills and who or what is good or bad. For instance...I thought Tom's speech to a dying B'Elanna in Course Oblivion was rather touching but I ran across someone who thought it was so badly acted he laughed at it. By the same token, there is a DS9 episode (can't remember the title but it's the one where the original Kai dies on that 'deathless' world) and Kira starts crying over her body. To me that particular scene was laughable...I thought she was overacting but all my friends thought it was...touching.

I didn't think Lien was the best actress ever but I did think that for the most part she gave the directors what they wanted and did well enough in the role.

Maybe she would seem better to me if she wasn't surrounded by other incredibly strong actors. It made her seem much worse in comparison...in my opinion of course

 

[Thomas Eugene]

Farscape. Can be a bit grim dark, but is so upbeat and damned funny the rest of the time. Granted it's just one guy slung to the other side of the universe, rather than a whole ship, but since you like Tom Paris, John Crichton should appeal. Especially if you ever read the John Crter books.

Thanks. I'm afraid I didn't like that one. I mean the bit I watched. I thought it was like the Muppets in space and although I do have a thing for Ben Browder (love him on StarGate), it was not enough to offset all the torture that blond woman gave me (whatever her name was). I thought she was horrible, not the actress herself but that character.
In any case, thanks for the tip.

 

[jaime]

Thanks. I'm afraid I didn't like that one. I mean the bit I watched. I thought it was like the Muppets in space and although I do have a thing for Ben Browder (love him on StarGate), it was not enough to offset all the torture that blond woman gave me (whatever her name was). I thought she was horrible, not the actress herself but that character.
In any case, thanks for the tip.

The blonde woman? There aren't any blonde women.....

The muppets thing is sort of true, but it helps if you watch unedited versions. The other problem being...animatronics are an amazing thing if you want your aliens to be alien looking and don't depend on cgi. It gets a bit wacky later, and very very dark, but also extremely light in equal measure...but still, it's up to you. The miniseries has one of the best giving birth scenes in TV history.

 

[Thomas Eugene]

The blonde woman? There aren't any blonde women.....

The muppets thing is sort of true, but it helps if you watch unedited versions. The other problem being...animatronics are an amazing thing if you want your aliens to be alien looking and don't depend on cgi. It gets a bit wacky later, and very very dark, but also extremely light in equal measure...but still, it's up to you. The miniseries has one of the best giving birth scenes in TV history.

Well then ... my memory doesn't serve me well. I thought she was blonde.
In any case all I remember that she was trying very hard to be mysterious all the time and then would keep staring at somebody or something, then she would suddenly scream something which was supposed to be like a piece of a vision of the future ... or something similar.
I thought she was blonde. She was, however, definitely annoying and I'm sorry I don't remember the character's name. Any help here would be hot.

 

[jaime]

Well then ... my memory doesn't serve me well. I thought she was blonde.
In any case all I remember that she was trying very hard to be mysterious all the time and then would keep staring at somebody or something, then she would suddenly scream something which was supposed to be like a piece of a vision of the future ... or something similar.
I thought she was blonde. She was, however, definitely annoying and I'm sorry I don't remember the character's name. Any help here would be hot.

Did you start at the beginning or jump in randomly? I missed everything after season 2 and had to catch up here and there but don't remember anyone like that in the crew. Ah well. I am not one for Stargate, so different strokes and all that xD

 

[Thomas Eugene]

Did you start at the beginning or jump in randomly? I missed everything after season 2 and had to catch up here and there but don't remember anyone like that in the crew. Ah well. I am not one for Stargate, so different strokes and all that xD

I am talking about Farscape ...

 

[Thomas Eugene]

OK, I've found it on IMDB. Her name was Chiana. She was the annoying one.

 

[jaime]

OK, I've found it on IMDB. Her name was Chiana. She was the annoying one.

Ah, I found her cute. She was back and white. More or less. She was sort of supposed to be annoying.

 

[Lynx]

Maybe she would seem better to me if she wasn't surrounded by other incredibly strong actors. It made her seem much worse in comparison...in my opinion of course

I don't think that the others were much better than Jennifer when it came to acting.

Maybe Mulgrew and Picardo but not any of the others.

Jennifer did a great job in Voyager.

 

[Lynx]

I am talking about Farscape ...

Farscape was actually OK.

 

[Sophie74656]

I don't think that the others were much better than Jennifer when it came to acting.

Maybe Mulgrew and Picardo but not any of the others.

Jennifer did a great job in Voyager.

well that's a matter of opinion I guess. Picardo, Dawson, Mulgrew, Ryan, McNeil..all fantastic actors

 

[jaime]

well that's a matter of opinion I guess. Picardo, Dawson, Mulgrew, Ryan, McNeil..all fantastic actors

I was about to say Voyager really does have the strongest cast overall...the. I remembered ds9....then TNG....Trek had pretty strong casts overall, very very few weak links. Even the lower tier shone in at least one episode.

 

[Cyke101]

I would love to see her in some YV or movie role again.
But not in "Orange Is The New Black". Prison series are boring and I have never understoood the purpose of them.

Speaking only personally, it's a dramedy with a large ensemble cast and a variety of personalities and origins. I find myself drawn to those types of shows, and that's perhaps why DS9 is my favorite Trek show. But the appeal is in the humanism -- virtually everyone in the prison is indeed responsible for whatever crime put them in there, but it's also about how they try to survive, cope, and band together as they serve their sentences.

More subversively, it's been described as a way to put on TV the stories of minorities and marginalized groups (immigrants, mental health patients, trans women, low-income, etc) that otherwise wouldn't be told anywhere else. That kind of variety helps create a rich tapestry for the show to draw from. So part of the fun is seeing the mix and match of often unlikely characters coming together.

But on the Trek side, Mulgrew's character as the prison's mother hen is amazing, including her ability to talk and even command those entire groups together; she's perhaps the most knowledgeable about how personality and internal politics mix in the prison.

 

[Thomas Eugene]

So what does this mean then? I guess, each to their own.
Farscape was unwatchable in my book for the above mentioned two reasons. I'm sure that that woman was supposed to be annoying. That was exactly why I hated it.
Like with StarGate Universe. The Robert Carlyle figure (sorry I've forgotten the character's name) was there to be annoying.
Which is good for people who like such characters.
I got to hate him in the tenth minute of the first episode and as the story progressed, I hated him more and more ... and ultimately hated the whole show.
It was so un-StarGate anyway.

 

[jaime]

So what does this mean then? I guess, each to their own.
Farscape was unwatchable in my book for the above mentioned two reasons. I'm sure that that woman was supposed to be annoying. That was exactly why I hated it.
Like with StarGate Universe. The Robert Carlyle figure (sorry I've forgotten the character's name) was there to be annoying.
Which is good for people who like such characters.
I got to hate him in the tenth minute of the first episode and as the story progressed, I hated him more and more ... and ultimately hated the whole show.
It was so un-StarGate anyway.

Ironically SGU was the only one I started getting into. Chi is annoying, intentionally, for about five minutes. Then she isn't any more and it becomes apparent that the annoying part is basically an act. Assuming you watched from beginning, she also introduced deliberately as something other to what she is.

But this is all sounding like a silly argument, you didn't like it. Cool. You might have done, so some peeps tried to explain her for you, in much the same way we might explain neelix (also intentionally annoying, also a front, also toned down as time goes on. Also has weird hair. Are they cousins?) but it's not for you. We promise not to shoot you with a Phaser or Winona.

Try Dark Matter. It's like Treks moody goth grandchild.

 

[Thomas Eugene]

Ironically SGU was the only one I started getting into. Chi is annoying, intentionally, for about five minutes. Then she isn't any more and it becomes apparent that the annoying part is basically an act. Assuming you watched from beginning, she also introduced deliberately as something other to what she is.

But this is all sounding like a silly argument, you didn't like it. Cool. You might have done, so some peeps tried to explain her for you, in much the same way we might explain neelix (also intentionally annoying, also a front, also toned down as time goes on. Also has weird hair. Are they cousins?) but it's not for you. We promise not to shoot you with a Phaser or Winona.

Try Dark Matter. It's like Treks moody goth grandchild.

Dark Matter? Never heard of it. Is that a show?

 

[jaime]

Dark Matter? Never heard of it. Is that a show?

Yes. It's on such, season 2 ATM. It's edited for its time slot here in the U.K., but it's so nineties it's like it fell through a time warp.

Edit: syfy not such.

 

[KelisThePoet]

Hey guys ... thanks for all the ideas.
For me, when I say I want a show similar to VOY, the most important thing is that it's about a ship lost in space.
So far so good. Now here comes the crux of it: no dark tone, please.
I don't like StarGate Universe because even though it is about a ship lost in space, it's just too dark. I can't relate to that, I prefer a more upbeat atmosphere.
Like with DS9, I just can't really get to like that show because it's too dark. Characters are not easy to identify with in such shows for me. (Nevertheless, I much prefer it to SG-U.)
As For StarGate Universe, the main reason I hate it is that there's the main guy who is a real jerk. You find that out about him like after ten minutes and the more you watch the show, the more you feel what a big a ... he his.
I don't like that.
So does any of the series you mentioned would be to my liking, do you think?

Yeah, I think Terra Nova has the tone you're looking for, but not the ship, so I guess that disqualifies it. It's about time travel, not space travel.

 

[Lynx]

So what does this mean then? I guess, each to their own.
Farscape was unwatchable in my book for the above mentioned two reasons. I'm sure that that woman was supposed to be annoying. That was exactly why I hated it.
Like with StarGate Universe. The Robert Carlyle figure (sorry I've forgotten the character's name) was there to be annoying.
Which is good for people who like such characters.
I got to hate him in the tenth minute of the first episode and as the story progressed, I hated him more and more ... and ultimately hated the whole show.
It was so un-StarGate anyway.

Robert Carlyle's character was the only character I had at least a certain liking for.

Mostly because he ( and Carlyle himself who is a great actor which I really appreciate) is a dead ringer to a total idiot who worked at the same place as me some years ago. That, plus the fact that a relative of mine fell asleep while watching the show made Stargate Universe an inside joke between me and my relative, like "It's friday night! What does that mean? It means that it's time for the event of the week when we'll see (the name of my previous workmate idiot) again and you will be so bored that you will fall asleep again!

Hadn't it been for my twisted humor, the series would have been totally unwatchable. I actually stopped watching it for some episodes until my relative told me that he fell asleep while watching it.

As for other series, well I liked Farscape, Stargate SG1 and especially Stargate Atlantis. But none of them were as good as Star Trek.

But Stargate SG1, JAG and NCIS became my "lifeboats" after "that episode" of Voyager. I just couldn't stand Star Trek for a long time after that.

Most of the SF-stuff today is horrible. Most doom and gloom about wretched civilisation and surviving losers who act like idiots. I can't stand that!

As it is now, I prefer to watch series like NCIS, NCIS Los Angeles, NCIS New Orleans and Hawaii 5 0 in which there are good characters, action and a bit of humor.

 

[Lynx]

I was about to say Voyager really does have the strongest cast overall...the. I remembered ds9....then TNG....Trek had pretty strong casts overall, very very few weak links. Even the lower tier shone in at least one episode.

Yes, they were all good.