No Time Travel
- Thread starter Commander Keiran MacDuff
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I really hope they drop time travel as a story telling trope. Flashbacks would be acceptable, seeing our new band of heroes before they came together so we know where they came from and how they got there, but there is no need for any more time travel stories.
But they can move forward in time to established history.
They can see things from a different angle.
5 years ago Booster Gol, a DC Comics shmuck had a time travel accident where he wound up in Coast City just before it was destroyed By Mogul (During that Death of Superman ####, circa 1993) and the Cyborg Superman.
What episodes of TNG, or movies would you want the crew of... No, they can't visit the movies. Paramount owns the movies. Discovery can only "visit" television.
They can see things from a different angle.
5 years ago Booster Gol, a DC Comics shmuck had a time travel accident where he wound up in Coast City just before it was destroyed By Mogul (During that Death of Superman ####, circa 1993) and the Cyborg Superman.
What episodes of TNG, or movies would you want the crew of... No, they can't visit the movies. Paramount owns the movies. Discovery can only "visit" television.
Of course we'll have time travel and alt timelines. I just expect the usual tropes to be put off for a longer time than in past shows, and seem even farther off given the short seasons. Like maybe time travel by season 3 and alt timeline in 4 or 5. They have a whole universe to re-build in the here and now.
"And I told me crew they had better get used to living in the here and now." Or so Rachael Garrett thought till Picard told her they were better off dead.
"And I told me crew they had better get used to living in the here and now." Or so Rachael Garrett thought till Picard told her they were better off dead.
Actually seeing young Vosk being a dick, would make Stormfront suck a whole lot less.
Usually, I find you to be right almost all of the time. And I completely agree that time travel will be used with the Discovery cast in some way. Especially since we're "oh so much smarter" now and I'm sure a time travel episode "done right" will be in the making. But if the 13-episode season is little more than a 13-part episode, then I don't see it being used in the first season.
The second season, probably (whether as a season-long arc, or especially if it adapts a more episodic approach). Perhaps even if they do some web or DVD-exclusive shorts, a la Doctor Who. But I think Enterprise, with its Temporal Cold War, may have spoiled the idea of time travel for at least the first episode of the very next series.
Number One: "Commander Riker?"
Riker: "Yes?"
Number One: "Don't go into that holodeck! The future depends on it! Er, the past, I mean."
Riker: "What the--"
Picard (over intercom): "Picard to Number One."
Riker and Number One (simultaneously): "Yes, sir?"
They've said that each episode will have it's own self-contained story. So I wouldn't worry that they can't do "special" episodes right in the middle of a story arc. Assuming arc-related story is handled as a sub plot or, at times, minimally.
I think for a lot of the audience the reaction was "ALREADY!? Come on!" You've got this great untapped era to explore and you're already throwing time travel into the mix... Ugh!
CBS has the rights to all the movies, or at least the Consumer Products branch of the company does, they're listed on their website along side XI, Into Darkness and Beyond.
Star Trek Online uses elements from the movies, and they're licensed by CBS not Paramount.
That is certainly true, however I think it is done for profit reasonsand also gaming is a completely different type of media. No element or story plot within trek games has to my knowledge has ever been inserted into trek canon, and I can't imagine it happening in the future.
Consumer products is toys, t-shirts and games.
Paramount is not allowed to make Toys, t-shirts, coffee mugs, bobble head, games and posters.
But CBS isn't allowed to make movie products, unless paramount says "Tha's cool". They have to co-operate. There's probably graft, kickback, and massive consultation fees.
If the world is not caked in toys and t-shirts when the new movie comes out, then maybe movie does poorly, or just less than it could'a. Consumer Products are sneaky advertising that reminds us that the movie exists, and that every bugger should see it again.
CBS also handles DVD/video distribution for paramount, which is another reason that they have to be friendly. Since if CBS decides that if they don't want to distribute the DVDs globally, then it's not, which is about leverage and mutually assured destruction and never going to happen.
CBS owns all of Star Trek.
Paramount has an exclusive never ending license to make Star Trek movies. And receives all the earnings from the pre-existing movie franchise as it reran/reruns globally and controls those movies.
CBS can't make movies until Paramount defaults (no one knows the criteria) or sells it's license, and the "original story matter" in the new Movies will always belong to Paramount, or someone at Paramount unless deals are made.
If Kirk Prime is seen as a new character, then whoever wrote mirror mirror is probably owed a bit of back pay for mirror mirror Kirk.
Which would be a hell of a trick considering that Jerome Bixby has been dead for close to twenty years.
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