Wow...thx for the links...wonder what the Mormons think of Hillary
Who is going to win this election in November?
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They probably appreciate her husband's taste for polygamy, at least in practice if not in the eye of the law.
He should have been if he wanted their support.
Gary Johnson is clearly going to win. Free weed. Gonna take the nation by storm.
I'm just kidding. Libertarianism is juvenile, a political herpes.
Obviously, Hillary will win. This is mostly thanks to Trump's insanity, although the Democrats do have a leg up in terms of presidential politics (not so much with down ticket politics, which is why Trump could be a huge help, should the Dems take advantage of that). Americans are definitely willing to vote a fascist into office; most countries are capable of doing that under the right opportunity. So it's not Trump's views that are ruining him, but rather the way he comes across. He is someone who would likely nuke a country because he has a hangnail.
The biggest concern for the Dems should be that someone with Trump's viewpoints will likely try either in 2020 or 2024 and will learn from his mistakes. A candidate like that can win. The Democrats are going to need to come up with a specific vision, something they've not been able to do since LBJ. Even Obama kept his vision so broad that it was tough to pin him to anything. Clinton ran the same campaign for all of the primary, but in her convention speech she, shockingly, embraced some very progressive policies (domestically, at least- foreign policy in America will still be fucked), so maybe they're learning. We'll see.
It has been amusing to see the GOP implode. It really does turn out that the GOP base doesn't give a fuck about Ayn Rand or corporate policy or cutting taxes; they care about being allowed to be racist and sexist, and, also, having available jobs (that said, the working class endorsement of Trump has been overstated at this point so it's 90% racism and sexism now). The beast has been unleashed and all those turtle-looking, race-baiting, sexist pricks that make up the GOP political class can't control it and will likely be eaten up by it. The party will survive, but it won't be the one it's been and, frankly, it couldn't happen to more deserving people. We're talking about a party that, in 2016, decided a winning issue would be to take a stand against unisex bathrooms, truly the height of political genius right there. I'm genuinely curious to see what the GOP will become next, if they'll learn or if it will take yet another presidential election season. They're hurt/helped by the fact that they tend to win a lot of state level battles, but can't win a presidential one so they don't know which way to go because their state wide races are won with very Trump-esque approaches. Interesting times, interesting times.
Long story short: Varys 2016. Keep your dicks out for Harambe.
I'm just kidding. Libertarianism is juvenile, a political herpes.
Obviously, Hillary will win. This is mostly thanks to Trump's insanity, although the Democrats do have a leg up in terms of presidential politics (not so much with down ticket politics, which is why Trump could be a huge help, should the Dems take advantage of that). Americans are definitely willing to vote a fascist into office; most countries are capable of doing that under the right opportunity. So it's not Trump's views that are ruining him, but rather the way he comes across. He is someone who would likely nuke a country because he has a hangnail.
The biggest concern for the Dems should be that someone with Trump's viewpoints will likely try either in 2020 or 2024 and will learn from his mistakes. A candidate like that can win. The Democrats are going to need to come up with a specific vision, something they've not been able to do since LBJ. Even Obama kept his vision so broad that it was tough to pin him to anything. Clinton ran the same campaign for all of the primary, but in her convention speech she, shockingly, embraced some very progressive policies (domestically, at least- foreign policy in America will still be fucked), so maybe they're learning. We'll see.
It has been amusing to see the GOP implode. It really does turn out that the GOP base doesn't give a fuck about Ayn Rand or corporate policy or cutting taxes; they care about being allowed to be racist and sexist, and, also, having available jobs (that said, the working class endorsement of Trump has been overstated at this point so it's 90% racism and sexism now). The beast has been unleashed and all those turtle-looking, race-baiting, sexist pricks that make up the GOP political class can't control it and will likely be eaten up by it. The party will survive, but it won't be the one it's been and, frankly, it couldn't happen to more deserving people. We're talking about a party that, in 2016, decided a winning issue would be to take a stand against unisex bathrooms, truly the height of political genius right there. I'm genuinely curious to see what the GOP will become next, if they'll learn or if it will take yet another presidential election season. They're hurt/helped by the fact that they tend to win a lot of state level battles, but can't win a presidential one so they don't know which way to go because their state wide races are won with very Trump-esque approaches. Interesting times, interesting times.
Long story short: Varys 2016. Keep your dicks out for Harambe.
As I understand it, libertarianism is basically the capitalism-friendly version of anarchy, which makes it kinda pointless.
Libertarians: People who honestly believe Americans aren't selfish enough.
Don't insult Mr. T (there is only one Mr. T, btw) by using his name to describe that giant infant. Even John Stewart thinks Mr. T would be a better president than Trump.
From The Wrap:
Jon Stewart may not be hosting “The Daily Show” anymore, but we don’t need to watch him on a political satire show every night to figure out how he feels about Donald Trump.
“I would vote for Mr. T. over Donald Trump,” Stewart said Monday during a taping of the University of Chicago’s Institute of Politics’ “The Axe Files,” a podcast hosted by President Obama’s former senior advisor David Axelrod.
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They're a funny lot.
We have a lot of them here--where they go to Randian websites on the ARPANET, drive to their suburbs on the Eisenhower Interstate System, all the while listening to NOAA weather warnings and their Sirius XM radio (launched by a derivitive of an Air Force Thor rocket--no wait--Soviet era Proton-K Block-DM3 launch vehicles)--and getting electrical power (to charge their Apollo/space program-derived smart-phones) from TVA.
But they don't need government--oh no.
"I've got this" is a talk radio fav' line.
How strict are the libertarians on the subject of government regulation? Would they do away with the FDA and stuff like that? That was put into place for a reason...although regulation isn't perfect, I certainly would welcome it over going back to the 1920's when companies were free to put whatever they wanted in stuff people used. Radioactive face cream, anyone?
It really opens the pores.
Cocaine in Coca-Cola, anyone?! Oh, wait...
Yes, great point. A few years ago (2010 I guess, wow) one of my favorite podcasts NPR Planet Money interviewed a Libertarian "thinker" about his philosophy. At about 10:40 he cites as a benefit of corporations over governments "The fact that we can fly around the world at a reasonably low price at the drop of a hat..." And as I'm listening I'm about to scream; commercial airlines being maybe the most government-subsidized industry in all history.
Did I understand correctly -- the guy was bragging that Trump would turn the country around in six months instead of 100 days? If so, that's really sad. I wonder how many months he thinks there are in 100 days, or how many days in six months.
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Did I understand correctly -- the guy was bragging that Trump would turn the country around in six months instead of 100 days? If so, that's really sad. I wonder how many months he thinks there are in 100 days, or how many days in six months.
Obviously, he was not the smartest guy on Earth..
Trump is not a Tea Partier, he's a nationalist-authoritarian populist who supports a lot of big government principles and proposals.
The Tea Party LOVES Trump because they think he's "anti-establishment" and because he hates minorities. Trump winning the Republican nomination is DIRECT result of the TP taking over the Republican party.
Yes, that's the sense I got from the conversation. Trump is so smart and has such a plan that in 6 months he will turn the country around. Of course it makes no sense in real-world terms. But Trump has these people energized, sort of how Obama had people energized in 2008. Except Trump has nowhere near the support Obama did, and his policies don't reach across demographic lines and inspire people like Obama's.Did I understand correctly -- the guy was bragging that Trump would turn the country around in six months instead of 100 days? If so, that's really sad. I wonder how many months he thinks there are in 100 days, or how many days in six months.
But let them dream. Why not? For the next 2 months they can dream about their racist, fearmongering utopia coming to fruition.
That's true, I think. However, and regardless of what @suarezguy was saying, I don't think that Trump is a Tea Party true believer. Trump is just seizing the moment.
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