What happened to Deep Spaces 1-8?
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...they probably exist in other points of Federation space.
I always assumed they were located elsewhere in the quadrant. This wasn't like Babylon-5; DS9 was not replacing the first first eight. It was simply one of an unspecified number of deep space stations.
If you're driving down Route 66, that doesn't mean something happened to Routes 1-65.
If you're driving down Route 66, that doesn't mean something happened to Routes 1-65.
I always assumed they were located elsewhere in the quadrant. This wasn't like Babylon-5; DS9 was not replacing the first first eight. It was simply one of an unspecified number of deep space stations.
If you're driving down Route 66, that doesn't mean something happened to Routes 1-65.
Actually, Routes 1-65 kept getting absorbed by the land until the planners appeased the Native American spirits in the area.
Did you also know that Mt. Rushmore began as Hill Rushmore? President Calvin Coolidge was nearly censured by the congress for his attempt to curry favor with the sculptor (Gutzon Borglum) in the attempt to get his own face in the pack.
It's also possible that the numbers referred to strategic points on Federation frontier (did the Deep Space designation replace Farpoint for PR reasons?), not an order of construction/activation, so you might build them as need and opportunity dictated.
If we started putting stations at the LeGrange points, you'd probably name them by placing, but L-1 might not the one that merited building first.
If we started putting stations at the LeGrange points, you'd probably name them by placing, but L-1 might not the one that merited building first.
If you're driving down Route 66, that doesn't mean something happened to Routes 1-65.
Nor were there 4746 Trekkers before Trekker4747
The Federation is two centuries old. In terms of numbering, it seems it has at least 700 (and perhaps 4,000!) starbases, which are big and important things. DS9 is unimportant when thus named. So, why are there just nine of those (or, conversely, what perverts the odds so that we only hear of the ones with numbers lower than 10)?
DS9 isn't particularly "deep" in terms of distance from Earth, the supposed center of the Federation, either. Nor is there anything special about it floating in "space" rather than, say, being built on a planet. So why the name?
Perhaps something did happen to DS1-8, and to DS9 - several times over. Perhaps a station is considered a DS one only when estabished outside the borders of the UFP, perhaps even on foreign soil/deckplates. Such a state of affairs may be rare, and certainly it won't endure: the UFP expands and assimilates. So the former DS9 becomes Starbase 123 and the next DS station in need gets the number 9. For a while.
Timo Saloniemi
DS9 isn't particularly "deep" in terms of distance from Earth, the supposed center of the Federation, either. Nor is there anything special about it floating in "space" rather than, say, being built on a planet. So why the name?
Perhaps something did happen to DS1-8, and to DS9 - several times over. Perhaps a station is considered a DS one only when estabished outside the borders of the UFP, perhaps even on foreign soil/deckplates. Such a state of affairs may be rare, and certainly it won't endure: the UFP expands and assimilates. So the former DS9 becomes Starbase 123 and the next DS station in need gets the number 9. For a while.
Timo Saloniemi
Maybe "deep space" is a designation for stafleet or starfleet ruled base outside federation space
"It was the dawn of the third age of mankind, four years before the Dominion War. The Deep Space Project was a dream given form. Its goal: to prevent another war by creating a place where humans and aliens could work out their differences peacefully. It's a port of call, home away from home for diplomats, hustlers, entrepreneurs, and wanderers. Humans and aliens wrapped in million tons of spinning metal, all alone in the night. It can be a dangerous place, but it's our last best hope for peace. This is the story of the last of the Deep Space stations. The year is 2369. The name of the place is Deep Space 9".
Deep Space 1, headquartered Canary Wharf, destroyed during the battle with the Cybermen, and consequently abandoned. Deep Space 2, run in Glasgow by a very strange man. Deep Space 3 based in Cardiff. Deep Space 4. Lost, but they'll find it someday.
.....wait I may be thinking of something else.
.....wait I may be thinking of something else.
that's what the people running this place want you to believeNor were there 4746 Trekkers before Trekker4747
That's the way I've always looked at it, but that they retain those designations even if that area eventually becomes Federation space. At the time it was established, Deep Space 9 was a starbase located in Bajoran territory and was a joint operation between the Federation and the Bajoran provisional government. Some of the earlier Deep Space stations may have had similar arrangements between the Federation and other governments when they came into being.
At least we foud out what happened in Star Wars Episodes I-III, although some may think we shouldn't have...
Does anyone really want to know what happened in the movies Leonard Parts 1-5?
Does anyone really want to know what happened in the movies Leonard Parts 1-5?
That was always my take on it.
Yeah. It's basically following the precedent of Deep Space Station K-7 in "The Trouble With Tribbles." Presumably that was one of multiple Deep Space Stations along the Klingon border, hence the "K."
And of course there's the precedent of numbered starbases. You have normal starbases -- Starbase 12, Starbase 47, Starbase 136, etc. -- and you have deep space starbases -- Starbase Deep Space 4, Starbase Deep Space 9, etc. I always figured the "Deep Space" in 24th-century usage referred to starbases that were outside of Federation space, like frontier outposts. DS9 would then have been the ninth such starbase to be established beyond UFP borders, at least since that labeling standard was established. I'd assume that a lot of 23rd-century starbases were in the frontier, since that's where the Enterprise operated most of the time (and Starbase 47 in the Vanguard novels is definitely deep into the frontier). But the 24th-century UFP is larger and more settled, so a lot of formerly frontier starbases would now be inside the UFP's borders, thus the need for a separate designation for bases beyond the borders.
Deep Space 1 was proposed but never built. Thank you, that other political party.
Deep Space 2 was destroyed by terrorists from my political party, looking to incite war with the Pakleds.
Deep Space 3 is fine. Why are they building ano-
Deep Space 4 they built but then lost cause it was too deep in space. They would build a little closer.
Deep Space 5 was crushed by Spacedock's orbit. They would build a little farther.
Deep Space 6 was conquered by the Pakleds. It's near DS9 and why you saw them on the station.
Deep Space 7 was the UFP's first foray into sentient station tech. It self-destructed, being too close to DS6.
Deep Space 8 is actually DS9. They lost count.
Deep Space 2 was destroyed by terrorists from my political party, looking to incite war with the Pakleds.
Deep Space 3 is fine. Why are they building ano-
Deep Space 4 they built but then lost cause it was too deep in space. They would build a little closer.
Deep Space 5 was crushed by Spacedock's orbit. They would build a little farther.
Deep Space 6 was conquered by the Pakleds. It's near DS9 and why you saw them on the station.
Deep Space 7 was the UFP's first foray into sentient station tech. It self-destructed, being too close to DS6.
Deep Space 8 is actually DS9. They lost count.
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