Spoilers I bet George Kirk was in the reboot Nexus all this time

[Laura Cynthia Chambers]

Either that, or he's become what IDW made reboot Robert April into, or worse. Shades of Star Wars, perhaps, as reboot Trek goes 4 for 4 on daddy issues Jim? ("All this time I wanted to be you. Now you just make me sick.")

Please use a spoiler tag for any Beyond-related info. I haven't seen it yet.

 

[Dukhat]

Er, George Kirk died when the Kelvin rammed into the Narada. Where do you get the idea that the Nexus somehow saved him? It wasn't even there.

 

[Laura Cynthia Chambers]

They're adding him to the fourth reboot movie. I'm trying to guess what they will do to bring him back. If they cast him this early on, it likely won't be a cameo.

Trekverse can bring back the dead characters in many sci fi ways.

 

[KirkusOveractus]

With all due respect, I'd much rather not talk about the Nexus or anything from that movie. I just had lunch!

 

[Dukhat]

The Nexus was an incredibly stupid plot device from an incredibly stupid movie from 20 years ago. I'm going to give the writers for ST4 some credit for coming up with a better way to show George.

 

[Laura Cynthia Chambers]

Well, it can't be mirror universe GK. They've already been to the MU in the IDW comics. Maybe prime universe George?

 

[BillJ]

Well, it can't be mirror universe GK. They've already been to the MU in the IDW comics. Maybe prime universe George?

The comics mean nothing. If they have a story they want to do with Mirror-George Kirk, they will do it.

 

[Laura Cynthia Chambers]

The comics mean nothing. If they have a story they want to do with Mirror-George Kirk, they will do it.

Sure, but comic fans would find it odd that all of the crew act as though they've never been there before. It was seen twice, once in Scotty's imagination, and once when they actually met them.

 

[Dukhat]

No one watching these new movies is going to give a crap about a mirror universe filled with evil lesbian versions of the characters.

Or maybe they will.

Oh, and comic fans probably make up 0.01% of the nuTrek movie audience. And comic tie-ins to movies are usually inane crap that no one takes seriously anyway.

 

[BillJ]

Sure, but comic fans would find it odd that all of the crew act as though they've never been there before. It was seen twice, once in Scotty's imagination, and once when they actually met them.

They sell about 20,000 copies a month. The Abrams films sell millions of tickets. Comics won't keep the movie people from doing stories they want to do.

 

[NewHorizon]

They're adding him to the fourth reboot movie. I'm trying to guess what they will do to bring him back. If they cast him this early on, it likely won't be a cameo.

Trekverse can bring back the dead characters in many sci fi ways.

Well, they're adding Chris Hemsworth but that doesn't mean he'll be George Kirk. He could be playing Kirk's brother Sam.

 

[Laura Cynthia Chambers]

Well, they're adding Chris Hemsworth but that doesn't mean he'll be George Kirk. He could be playing Kirk's brother Sam.

Who also appeared in the comics. Which are closely written with the creators of the reboot movies.

Meeting George Kirk Prime would be disorienting. "Okay, you're my dad, but you're not my dad, with tons of memories of things I never did...trippy..."

 

[BillJ]

You can do a time sci-fi movie without doing time travel. Just have the fabric on the multi-verse unravel.

 

[CorporalClegg]

Just remember it's Star Trek so...

Not. Dead.

 

[Cyrus]

It's going to be Holodec, which is invented earlier in the Kelvin timeline.

 

[The Wormhole]

Who also appeared in the comics. Which are closely written with the creators of the reboot movies.

Who also are no longer involved in the movies.

Sure, but comic fans would find it odd that all of the crew act as though they've never been there before.

Comic fans make up 2% of fandom.

Trekverse can bring back the dead characters in many sci fi ways.

Which means there's no reason to revisit the Nexus. Especially when it was a weak element of an unpopular movie from twenty years ago.

 

[Tyr]

Which means there's no reason to revisit the Nexus. Especially when it was a weak element of an unpopular movie from twenty years ago.

Well, it did gross 118 Million $ then, by a budget of 35 Million $ and spawned 3 more sequels. Doesn't seem to be that unpopular, does it?

 

[BillJ]

Well, it did gross 118 Million $ then, by a budget of 35 Million $ and spawned 3 more sequels. Doesn't seem to be that unpopular, does it?

For a movie that made the cover of Time Magazine, trumpeting the meeting of Kirk and Picard, the box office total was pretty weak. 15th for the year according to BoxOfficeMojo.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=main&id=startrek7.htm

But, playing the same game we play with the Abrams films. The movie grossed $118 million worldwide, half of that goes to the theaters, which would be $59 million. Which means Paramount brought home $59 million. When you factor in Print and Advertising, it probably left theaters still in the red.

Using the formulas we normally use, only First Contact from the TNG films, looked to have left the theater having made a profit.

 

[Terok Nor]

Time has no meaning in the Nexus. Shatner's Kirk, Dr. Soran, Guinan and Captain Picard are still there. They linger on....

 

[Laura Cynthia Chambers]

Which means there's no reason to revisit the Nexus. Especially when it was a weak element of an unpopular movie from twenty years ago.

Who says that a weak story/element can't be tweaked and made more interesting in a reboot?