CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar
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Sorry for offtopic, but briefly, as a designer, what feelings do you have about the ship? I kind of like that they are referencing an old design, but I just can't help seeing an IDIC. Not that that's bad.
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Disturbing-er and disturbing-er. More and more. Layer after layer. Year after year.
As you say, 'Everything except just making a fan film and finishing.' Since 2012, everything except just making the film. Always a reason, always a rationalization, always an excuse. Never a film.
Having covered a lot of litigation, I have seen many cases where a party in a legally hopeless position continue to fight for the sake of fighting. It stops being about the money or the substantive issue. It's about avoiding the admission of error or responsibility, no mater what the cost.
Yes. I could see this playing out with this defendant's observable documented for years personality of denial of personal responsibility for anything remotely akin to failure or wrong doing. No matter the cost, no matter to whom. Even when, as has been seen and documented over the years, caught red handed.
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Very nearly the same thing happened at WonderCon. A BSG panel with Hatch and Alec Peters. I didn't go, so I don't know if it turned into an Axanar discussion, but whereever Hatch goes these days, just like the shit-stained toilet paper he is, Alec Peters some how managed to cling-on (see what I did there?) and tag along and be there.
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Alec doesn't need to produce much of anything, he has gotten what he wanted over the last 5 years.
We have seen him at about ever Con from Germany to Australia and that takes money, how many contests has Prelude won? How many times have we seen Alec bask in the glory of his greatness? If I have a few extra bucks laying around it goes into a production, If Alec is traveling around the world from Con to Con on his own dime that's one thing, if he's promoting off the backs of the donors money to hype his wonderful work of art, it's another.
I'm insulted every time he has ever pretended to be a "fan film" it reminds me of some bully that hides behind his mothers skirt.
At this point I don't know if I like it or not. From this teaser it feels undone and I guess it is still a design in progress. THe design that it is based off of is not one of my favorites, but neither was Ent-D when I first saw it as a kid.
I always enjoy reading your blog.
What Alec & RH did hijacking the BSG panel into a plug for Axafail was in IMO crass and disrespectful to say the least. I suppose LFIM is operating under the false premise of if he repeats his lies often enough misleading people he'll change the outcome of the lawsuits.
Quite likely and I'm sure Alec Peters will be one of the first to start banging that particular drum. And some people on the other side of the argument may get quite upset about it because actually there may be a grain of truth in it now but.....
...there still won't be any Axanar content because Alec has spent all the money, irrespective of when the new TV show is set.
Very nice!
It also seems that LFIM is just asking for it too........... (can we say 'desperation' ??)
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Very nice!
It also seems that LFIM is just asking for it too........... (can we say 'desperation' ??)
Great, now his greed is gonna spoil it for artists too. From what I have seen over the years it seems quite common for artists at cons to do one-offs of owned characters for money. I think the publishers look the other way, I don't think it has fair use/parody defense. Get a major studio pissed off and enforcing copyright and that all will get shut down out of artists' fear.
Exactly. 'Scorched Earth' in action.......(if he can't play in the sandbox, nobody can)
I think its more like he is selling the sand, with no regard for anyone's future.
In some ways its fandom's own fault - our need to have those collectibles or to purchase that swag. He's merely capitalizing on it in any way he can. For every one of us willing to look at the big picture and actually see what Peters has been doing, there seem to be a dozen blind nerds who just want more Trek the way they think it should be, or people like @Warped9, who have very specific ideas about what Trek should be and be about, and will only support those notions (vis a vis Cash Markman's shitty These Are The Voyages Books.) To some, it just doesn't matter what the source of the content is - fraudulent or not - just that there's content that meets their discerning, if fickle, pleasure.
That being said, Alec Peters should know by now -- he should have learned a long, long time ago, in a bankruptcy proceeding far, far away that this was all wrong and that he should stop. It's been a lesson he's learned over and over again that his Herb Tarlek scumbag get-rich-quick schemes are just never going to pan out, and hopefully, with this lawsuit, it will shine a light on his immoral and criminal practices, fleecing off the goodwill of a fandom that may or may not know any better but a studio that plainly sees what he's doing.
Much like Jon Stewart said the other day, CBS "sees you and [CBS] sees your bullshit!" --- and it remains absolutely apparent to anyone who has followed this nonsense, whether from the beginning like me, or since the lawsuit was filed in December, everything CBS has done has been straight up as a "fuck you" to Alec Peters.
He knows this.
CBS knows this.
We know this.
The only people who don't seem to be capable of firing the neurons to form the coherent thought process to recognize the long-term ramifications of this are Alec and his inexplicably willing stooge Robert Meyer Burnett, who by attaching himself to this sinking ship has torpedoed his own career with CBS and Paramount. The rest of the Axanar sheep - from people in our fan film community who were such staunch supporters before becoming curiously silent once the real facts came to light (looking at you, @Barbreader and @BigJake!) to those who, to this day, are still proudly and loudly waving the Axanar banner in defense of this idiocy are just following Peters' egomaniacal, man-child lead.
That being said, Alec Peters should know by now -- he should have learned a long, long time ago, in a bankruptcy proceeding far, far away that this was all wrong and that he should stop. It's been a lesson he's learned over and over again that his Herb Tarlek scumbag get-rich-quick schemes are just never going to pan out, and hopefully, with this lawsuit, it will shine a light on his immoral and criminal practices, fleecing off the goodwill of a fandom that may or may not know any better but a studio that plainly sees what he's doing.
Much like Jon Stewart said the other day, CBS "sees you and [CBS] sees your bullshit!" --- and it remains absolutely apparent to anyone who has followed this nonsense, whether from the beginning like me, or since the lawsuit was filed in December, everything CBS has done has been straight up as a "fuck you" to Alec Peters.
He knows this.
CBS knows this.
We know this.
The only people who don't seem to be capable of firing the neurons to form the coherent thought process to recognize the long-term ramifications of this are Alec and his inexplicably willing stooge Robert Meyer Burnett, who by attaching himself to this sinking ship has torpedoed his own career with CBS and Paramount. The rest of the Axanar sheep - from people in our fan film community who were such staunch supporters before becoming curiously silent once the real facts came to light (looking at you, @Barbreader and @BigJake!) to those who, to this day, are still proudly and loudly waving the Axanar banner in defense of this idiocy are just following Peters' egomaniacal, man-child lead.
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In securities regulation there is something called "affinity fraud." It refers to a scammer exploiting the cultural identity of a group as a mask for their fraud. The most common example of affinity fraud is someone using their membership in a church or religious group to solicit "investors" into a scheme. Usually a figure within the group, such as a pastor, will attest to the scammer's good character and encourage his flock to support the scheme.
Not being down and widdit I have no idea who Jaylah is and I'm too lazy to Google it (other search engines are available) but that aside this has to be the most tenuous Star Trek related cash-grab I've seen Team Axanar associate themselves with yet. Correct me if I'm wrong but that's just a cartoon dude listening to, er, something?It also seems that LFIM is just asking for it too........... (can we say 'desperation' ??)
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