Spoilers ST: Beyond - Surprising fact about Sulu

[Christopher]

Exactly. And if the new GODZILLA movie had been about a giant radioactive lizard named NUKESAURUS it wouldn't have been the same.

Although there are certain essentials that should be retained in order for a reboot to really warrant the same name. The 1998 Godzilla movie was so far removed from Godzilla that the fanbase has never accepted it as a legitimate reboot, and this is a continuity that had already been rebooted once before and has been rebooted seven times since, counting both Japanese and US versions. (Really, it was more a remake of The Beast From 20,000 Fathoms than of Godzilla anyway.)

The problem is that some people don't get the difference between the details and the core essentials. As long as you get the essentials basically right, it doesn't matter how much else you change. It's when you get the essentials wrong that it becomes a problem, like Emmerich's Godzilla or Snyder's Superman. And even then, people disagree over what those essentials are. Some people think Snyder's Superman works, others think it's a betrayal and misunderstanding of the character's essence. Some people think the Kelvin movies captured the personalities and essence of the TOS crew marvelously, others think it totally screwed them up.

 

[David Strickhouser]

The daughter is just a small child in the movie, represented by a photograph Sulu keeps on his console.

Is that the helm console? Or a console in his quarters?
Personal effects on the bridge?!?

 

[Christopher]

Is that the helm console? Or a console in his quarters?

The video clip in the link I provided will answer that question.

 

[DimesDan]

Is that the helm console? Or a console in his quarters?
Personal effects on the bridge?!?

Just in case you're at work and you have some form of prevention against youtube, the photo is on his console on the bridge, it's a really small photo and makes sense that it's there given they're two years into the five year mission.

The video clip in the link I provided will answer that question.

Now now Chris, he could have any reason not to be able to see the video right now and it was an innocent question, unless of course you didn't watch the video yourself and was unable to actually answer the question.

 

[hbquikcomjamesl]

Just in case you're at work and you have some form of prevention against youtube, the photo is on his console on the bridge, it's a really small photo and makes sense that it's there given they're two years into the five year mission.

Uh, in what way does it make sense?

This is not a desk in Sulu's private office. It is the helm console on the bridge of a space vessel. A station that is attended 24/7 while the ship is underway. Engineering Subsystems Checkout might be left unattended for days at a time, but helm and navigation would not. A Human being requires sleep, and food, and other bodily functions, and so Sulu cannot be on duty 24/7. Therefore, there are relief helmsmen on board, and this is a shared workstation.

Christopher Pike (Prime timeline), as captain, evidently had the discretion to have the bridge repainted in shades of gray, from the much brighter color scheme that April and the various designers had specified (given that, at least to the best of my recollection, the descriptions given in April-era novels lean towards the color scheme of "Where No Man has Gone Before"). But where does even the senior helmsman have the discretion to put personal items on display, on a shared workstation? I can't imagine seeing that even on a merchant ship.

Granted (after seeing the Entertainment Tonight clip), it's not what I initially thought when I saw it mentioned here: it's not a large, framed picture, on permanent display. But still . . . .

 

[DimesDan]

Uh, in what way does it make sense?

To me it does for the reason I stated.

 

[Christopher]

I figure it's in the tradition of all those old movies where pilots in wartime would have pictures of their girlfriends or families on their cockpit controls. Generally they wouldn't leave the picture there; they'd carry it with them at all times, and when they were in the plane, they'd put it in front of them so it would remind them of what they fought for and what they had to come home for. Presumably Sulu does much the same.

 

[hbquikcomjamesl]

That starts to make sense.

 

[The Wormhole]

Personal effects on the bridge?!?

Yep, John Cho even makes a joke about that.

 

[David Strickhouser]

I figure it's in the tradition of all those old movies where pilots in wartime would have pictures of their girlfriends or families on their cockpit controls. Generally they wouldn't leave the picture there; they'd carry it with them at all times, and when they were in the plane, they'd put it in front of them so it would remind them of what they fought for and what they had to come home for. Presumably Sulu does much the same.

The bridge is not a cockpit. If Sulu was on a long-duration mission in a shuttlecraft and wanted to bring a few effects along, then I'd buy it.

What next? Spock has picture of Amanda at his station; Kirk keeps a shot of his current "squeeze" squeezed between the seat cushions?

No personal effects on the bridge, period. The workstations are shared stations.

 

[Jinn]

Kirk keeps a shot of his current "squeeze" squeezed between the seat cushions?

Actually Kirk has a photo album with all his past love interests on the bridge

 

[hbquikcomjamesl]

Just the current month's volume, or . . . .

 

[Idran]

No personal effects on the bridge, period. The workstations are shared stations.

I'll relay your orders to Sulu, Admiral. We'll make sure that picture is shredded before the end of the shift.

 

[David Strickhouser]

I'll relay your orders to Sulu, Admiral. We'll make sure that picture is shredded before the end of the shift.

Put it in the dematerializer. We run clean vessels, Captain

 

[Jinn]

Just imagine how they deal with this stuff in the Mirror Universe.

"Captain, Sulu has a picture of his daughter on his console!"
"Quick! Dematerialize!"
"The picture?"
"The girl!"

 

[David Strickhouser]

Just imagine how they deal with this stuff in the Mirror Universe.

"Captain, Sulu has a picture of his daughter on his console!"
"Quick! Dematerialize!"
"The picture?"
"The girl!"

"From this distance?"
"Yes, dammit. Use whatever power you need; take it from ... life support. Uh, deck two and below, of course."
"Aye, sir!"

 

[Jinn]

"From this distance?"
"Yes, dammit. Use whatever power you need; take it from ... life support. Uh, deck two and below, of course."
"Aye, sir!"

a few weeks later
"Crap, we completely forgot to kill Sulu for his crimes!"

 

[David Strickhouser]

a few weeks later
"Crap, we completely forgot to kill Sulu for his crimes!"

Think we're going off thread here; though, fun!
BLEEP, BLEEP!! Now entering fan fiction! Fan fiction! BLEEP, BLEEP!!

 

[Christopher]

No personal effects on the bridge, period. The workstations are shared stations.

Like I said, it's a pocket-sized photo that's not affixed to the console. He presumably takes it with him when he goes off-duty, like those pilots in the movies I was talking about. That's the idea, after all -- you want a reminder of your loved one(s) with you at all times.

 

[Markonian]

Like I said, it's a pocket-sized photo that's not affixed to the console. He presumably takes it with him when he goes off-duty, like those pilots in the movies I was talking about. That's the idea, after all -- you want a reminder of your loved one(s) with you at all times.

Sensible. I do the same thing at work. Whenever I wonder what I'm doing this all for, a quick look at that photo reminds me.