According to the original Writer's Bible, that is the way it was supposed to be pronounced. If I remember correctly.
USS Franklin issue
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According to the original Writer's Bible, that is the way it was supposed to be pronounced. If I remember correctly.
Why not?
Obviously the Franklin isn't NX class (like the Enterprise), so one of two things must be the case:
1) either the Franklin was the ONLY ship of her class, in which case it probably wouldn't even have a class name, or
2) by the time of its construction, 'NX' is no longer a class but simply means prototype like in the rest of Trek. And if that's true, the Franklin was a prototype ship and therefore the class will be named after it.
Although I suppose there could have been multiple prototypes of the Franklin design, and the class ended up being named after one of the others.
1) either the Franklin was the ONLY ship of her class, in which case it probably wouldn't even have a class name, or
2) by the time of its construction, 'NX' is no longer a class but simply means prototype like in the rest of Trek. And if that's true, the Franklin was a prototype ship and therefore the class will be named after it.
Although I suppose there could have been multiple prototypes of the Franklin design, and the class ended up being named after one of the others.
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Shit, I didn't even realize until right now the Franklin's
. I literally just checked to see if the number itself started with a zero, which it doesn't! Hooray!
Yes, I'm going to be dining on this one a while. The future of Star Trek movies are now in hands I can trust!
registry was NX
Yes, I'm going to be dining on this one a while. The future of Star Trek movies are now in hands I can trust!
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There are some other interesting little tidbits scattered through TNG on this subject.
As per "Encounter At Farpoint" there were the New United Nations by 2036, abolished by 2079 along with "all United Earth nonsense" according to Q's "very, very accurate" simulation of one particular "post-atomic horror" court of that year, location unspecified but appearing Asiatic. (The "more rapid progress" that led to this would appear to be Q's cynical way of referring to WWIII—the script establishes his appearance earlier in the episode as a drug-controlled soldier representative of such as that of "a military officer from the mid 21st century wars"—a decade after which there were "few governments left" as per First Contact. Perhaps Q's kangaroo court was affiliated with the Eastern Coalition also mentioned there?)
In "The Royale" it is implied that the United States of America and NASA existed at least up to the same year, 2079, so it would seem that might have been one of the "few" that survived the war (albeit likely not with extensive infrastructure intact).
Then in the early 22nd century came the European Hegemony, a "loose alliance" which represented "the first stirrings of world government" according to "Up The Long Ladder." (Given the other references to some earlier form of abolished "United Earth" we could interpret that Picard specifically meant the particular world government—intriguingly capitalized as a proper name, World Government, in the script to "Attached"—that would culminate in the United Earth of the 2150s.)
Yet we do have the United Earth Space Probe Agency launching Friendship One in 2067. (It may well also be the same "Space Agency" that launched S.S. Conestoga to Terra Nova a couple years later, by which time Earth colonies already existed on the Moon, Mars, and some asteroids within the Solar system. Of course, it's possible that some of the latter were private ventures like the Orpheus Mining Colony established just over two decades later. One wonders into which category the S.S. Valiant falls as well.)
I suppose it could make sense in light of Troi's FC line, "it unites humanity in a way no one ever thought possible when they realize they're not alone in the universe," that such activities were at the forefront of the recovery from WWIII while certain other areas lagged behind. Perhaps the name needn't be taken to imply that there yet was any government called "United Earth" at the time of its initial establishment, but rather as simply denoting a lack of national distinctions in its aegis, like its predecessor the International Space Agency that launched Ares IV in 2032 (as contrasted with NASA, which cooperated with the ISA on that mission but was still independently launching its own in 2037 with the Charybdis). Perhaps UESPA was an organization that sought to draw together and pool the resources of whatever remnants of the national space programs survived the war along with Cochrane's new technology (and probably with some reserved and reluctant aid from the Vulcans as well). In other words, maybe UESPA didn't follow from a United Earth at all, but rather the reverse.
So in other words,
NOT CANON! 
Interesting...!
I find myself wondering who Franklin is (either who the ship was named for, in-universe, or why the writers chose it).
Ben?
^ Could be, but why not use his full name? "Franklin" is common enough that if it had been Ben, they'd probably want to say so.
In TSFS, the excelsior was the NX-2000 before getting the NCC designation.
Makes sense that Franklin is named after famed US founding father and apocryphal lightning rod discoverer... in that the suggestion is the whole getting struck while flying a kite, is supposedly unlikely to have actually happened.
Coincidentally there is a Scotty link to the Next Gen episode Doohan returned in. "Relics" is the one where he's revealed to have been stuck in a transport buffer for 80 years. He went in with a junior officier by that surname but who doesn't make it when Riker and Geordi re-energise the beam.
Coincidentally there is a Scotty link to the Next Gen episode Doohan returned in. "Relics" is the one where he's revealed to have been stuck in a transport buffer for 80 years. He went in with a junior officier by that surname but who doesn't make it when Riker and Geordi re-energise the beam.
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Have we ever had any ship with more than one name though?
The Excelsior is the prototype for an entire starship class, and was also being used for transwarp experiments.
USS Thomas Paine, TNG Conspiracy
Referenced in same episode, but not seen:
Albert Einstein, USS
[URL='http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/USS_John_F._Kennedy']John F. Kennedy, USS[/URL]
[URL='http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/USS_John_F._Kennedy'][URL='http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/USS_Elmer_Fudd']Elmer Fudd, USS[/URL][/URL]
You mean like Aussies do?
Not every ship made after the NX-01 needs to include Warp 5 engines. If they are designed for short range missions, Warp 4 would be fine. So having it be a post Enterprise ship, with a Warp 4 engine is fine. As for it being a Prototype, it could be a different kind of Warp engine, that works in a different way, but still only has a Warp 4 limit.
The problem is the movie refers to it as "Starfleet's first warp 4 starship." Kind of odd the first warp 4 ship was made a decade after the first warp 5 ship.
Meh. There's conflicts between Enterprise and the episode "The Time Trap" with their first vessel to have warp drive looking like a fattened TOS Enterprise.
from what I've heard, there's some discussion about whether or not the animated series is canon.
