Spoilers STAR TREK BEYOND

[Starscream2112]

The film will definitely be tweaked for Anton Yelchin. RIP

And probably already has...

 

[Shalashaska]

I haven't enjoyed Uhura's elevated status in the films not saying a female lead can't work in Bones's place just the way she is written doesn't seem to mesh well.

Whaaaat!?

You're obviously a sexist if you prefer a male character to a female character!

Me? Lol
And said by you!... Lol ok.^
I guess your negative feels about things and complains about the characters and pretexts to hate on Uhura are just opinions but if others make an observation about one of your faves they are the haters.. funny how that works

The sense of pot/kettle entitlement of some people never ceases to be funny.

Yes, because complaining about the writing of a lead character in two 120-minute long films is just as bad as complaining about a few lines in a TV spot and making assumptions about a movie we haven't yet seen.

Perfect comparison.

 

[Malaika]

Whaaaat!?

You're obviously a sexist if you prefer a male character to a female character!


Yes, because complaining about the writing of a lead character in two 120-minute long films is just as bad as complaining about a few lines in a TV spot and making assumptions about a movie we haven't yet seen.

Perfect comparison.

In fact, there is no comparison.
I said that I don't see Spock/Bones as friends in that clip from the beginning because, as interviews from cast as well the movies so
far support it, they are not yet at this point. You keep reinventing Uhura's scenes and character to find pretexts to belittle her (not even talking about just the last examples) and criticize her (while giving a pass to your faves for much worse behaviors). Your example is, frankly, worse because you have whole movies contradicting things you said.
In either case, you are the least person who can tell me that I look for things to complain about when you are doing that all the time.

 

[Shalashaska]

In fact, there is no comparison.
I said that I don't see Spock/Bones as friends in that clip from the beginning because, as interviews from cast as well the movies so
far support it, they are not yet at this point. You keep reinventing Uhura's scenes and character to find pretexts to belittle her (not even talking about just the last examples) and criticize her (while giving a pass to your faves for much worse behaviors). Your example is, frankly, worse because you have whole movies contradicting things you said.
In either case, you are the least person who can tell me that I look for things to complain about when you are doing that all the time.

All I said was that I don't like Uhura in the new films? Where am I reinventing her scenes and character to find pretexts to belittle her?

Again, making assumptions. Do you just guess I'm doing something wrong because I don't agree with your opinion?

 

[photon70]

http://io9.gizmodo.com/heres-how-star-trek-is-attempting-to-rule-comic-con-201-1783152354

In addition to the ComicCon IMAX premiere, Star Trek will have 5 different panels and an art exhibition!

Hopefully the online buzz will go through the roof!

 

[M'Sharak]

That's because you're one of those people who just looks for things to complain about.

I really don't have a clue how one could watch that little teaser clip and come away with "that's xenophobia".

Me? Lol
And said by you!... Lol ok.^
I guess your negative feels about things and complains about the characters and pretexts to hate on Uhura are just opinions but if others make an observation about one of your faves they are the haters.. funny how that works

The sense of pot/kettle entitlement of some people never ceases to be funny.

Yes, because complaining about the writing of a lead character in two 120-minute long films is just as bad as complaining about a few lines in a TV spot and making assumptions about a movie we haven't yet seen.

Perfect comparison.

In fact, there is no comparison.
I said that I don't see Spock/Bones as friends in that clip from the beginning because, as interviews from cast as well the movies so
far support it, they are not yet at this point. You keep reinventing Uhura's scenes and character to find pretexts to belittle her (not even talking about just the last examples) and criticize her (while giving a pass to your faves for much worse behaviors). Your example is, frankly, worse because you have whole movies contradicting things you said.
In either case, you are the least person who can tell me that I look for things to complain about when you are doing that all the time.

All I said was that I don't like Uhura in the new films? Where am I reinventing her scenes and character to find pretexts to belittle her?

Again, making assumptions. Do you just guess I'm doing something wrong because I don't agree with your opinion?

Different people may look at one thing and come away with different interpretations. That's fairly common, and you're under no obligation to agree with each other. If you each try to explain your interpretations and the other still doesn't understand, that's also fine, and it's better to have attempted the explanation and been unsuccessful than to merely throw up one's figurative hands and say "I don't have a clue as to how you could look at X and see Y."

The back-and-forth sniping needs to stop, though - both of you. You can disagree without resorting to taking pokes at each other, and if you reach a point where further explanation isn't advancing the discussion, then that's the time to move on: before it gets personal.

 

[Fenrir767]

Whaaaat!?

You're obviously a sexist if you prefer a male character to a female character!


Yes, because complaining about the writing of a lead character in two 120-minute long films is just as bad as complaining about a few lines in a TV spot and making assumptions about a movie we haven't yet seen.

Perfect comparison.

Well unfortunately I can't edit my previous post that did come off as totally sexist that's what I get for responding quickly on my phone.

What I mean to say is I have not enjoyed the way that they have elevated Uhura over bones in the new series. Elevating a female character can work however the way Uhura has been written has not worked for me, not with how great Karl Urban is as bones my favorite part of every movie so far.

I find that a lot of Uhura's scenes just don't play well or work for me compared to how much I enjoy Bones. The scene In STID on the ship talking to Spock about their relationship was just awful.

 

[SiddFinch1]

Is it me or are there usually far more spoilers out there by thus point...maybe my memory is bad but I thought usually we have a lot more information by this point

 

[Fenrir767]

We did however the premier is today and apparently there is a review embargo till the 21st that tells me that there is some trepidation over the performance of the film. Normally reviews would be released earlier. A day before is not definitive sign though it just means that the studio is unsure of how fans will receive it. They want reviews and word of mouth from general audiences coming out around the same time.

 

[Shalashaska]

Well unfortunately I can't edit my previous post that did come off as totally sexist that's what I get for responding quickly on my phone.

What I mean to say is I have not enjoyed the way that they have elevated Uhura over bones in the new series. Elevating a female character can work however the way Uhura has been written has not worked for me, not with how great Karl Urban is as bones my favorite part of every movie so far.

I find that a lot of Uhura's scenes just don't play well or work for me compared to how much I enjoy Bones. The scene In STID on the ship talking to Spock about their relationship was just awful.

LMAO, dude, I was just kidding. Chill, I get what you mean. It's just that some people think you can't not like Uhura in these new films without being a "sexist" or whatever from reading and talking about the subject on other sites.

There's nothing sexist about saying you prefer one character to another. Don't get all hung up in the gender thing.

 

[Fenrir767]

LMAO, dude, I was just kidding. Chill, I get what you mean. It's just that some people think you can't not like Uhura in these new films without being a "sexist" or whatever from reading and talking about the subject on other sites.

There's nothing sexist about saying you prefer one character to another. Don't get all hung up in the gender thing.

No worries I just realized that my stupid phone changed the word can to can't which totally made me come off like a sexist tool lol.

 

[RAMA]

Apparently there's already a YouTube review for the movie up but I'm not sure if it's legit yet.

 

[Commander Richard]

I like Kirk, Spock and Uhura as the big three. It seems to have evolved organically and it works well for this version of Trek. I'm sure that a lot of that is thanks to both Saldana and a well written Uhura.

 

[fireproof78]

Well unfortunately I can't edit my previous post that did come off as totally sexist that's what I get for responding quickly on my phone.

What I mean to say is I have not enjoyed the way that they have elevated Uhura over bones in the new series. Elevating a female character can work however the way Uhura has been written has not worked for me, not with how great Karl Urban is as bones my favorite part of every movie so far.

I find that a lot of Uhura's scenes just don't play well or work for me compared to how much I enjoy Bones. The scene In STID on the ship talking to Spock about their relationship was just awful.

I don't know. I know it's subjective but the back and forth on their relationship is probably one of the more "real" moments for me in the film. It felt that there was a history and a relationship there, rather than just quips.

Kind of like how Bones and Kirk get. And the impression I get is now that they've established certain relationships in the past two films, there will be different dynamics explored in Beyond.

 

[Trekfan12]

I was noticing, while watching TV, that I am seeing more commercials for "Suicide Squad," which doesn't come out until Aug 5th. Than I am for STB. Not sure why. I think there should be plenty of commercials for the movie by now.

 

[Tom Servo]

I was noticing, while watching TV, that I am seeing more commercials for "Suicide Squad," which doesn't come out until Aug 5th. Than I am for STB. Not sure why. I think there should be plenty of commercials for the movie by now.

They are certainly doing their advertising due diligence. Practically every bus shelter and phone booth I've seen on my walk to work in NYC has a Beyond poster, and I just noticed while watching my MLB TV account that they are doing Beyond ads in-between the innings.

 

[Trekfan12]

I suppose, maybe it's far fetched, that the review embargo is a way to make it 'fair' for the critics and make it so they all have the same chance. If tomorrow some critics will review the movie for first, their articles will be the most clicked while other sites won't get the chance to review the movie yet because they have to wait almost 2 weeks more and by that time, any review about the movie would be old news and get less attention.



the fact that the clip doesn't provide context is exactly the point IMO The Uhura's part is obviously cut, I doubt the scene starts just like that.
and I wonder if they'd even release the clip if S/U's break up was permanent. It feels like the clip has a set up for both dynamics, but we have to wait and see what really happens.

I hope they didn't kill the S/U relationship, especially not if it's just to make room for more bromance. It's unnecessary and overkill; unlike what some fans believe, Spock having a significant other really is not a threat to the male friendships, it's just another dynamic to develop adding layers to the characters we didn't see before and that you can't see with the friendships alone.. and really, it's the only 'different kind' of relationship we have in these movies and the one more unique to this trek too. A lot of people love it, even Nimoy loved it. The relationships between the men are always considered such a given and taken so for granted as a constant thing that you gotta put in every universe and every trek (at times even at the expense of what might make sense for a character in that context), so it would be weird for me if the one different kind of relationship (with a woman) that is about the story of the characters from THIS trek, is the only one that can't survive.
I had been worried about Pegg being too partial/biased about the dynamics with the guys since the start because romance (and female characters in general) really doesn't seem to be a thing he's particularly skilled with (or interested about) ... and I'd really rather be completely wrong about my prejudices than being right.

I think the S/U relationship will probably as strong as ever. Of course not knowing where the scene with S/U and her wanting to give the necklace he gave her appears in the movie (I tend to think before all the bad stuff that happens to everyone) there is a scene where they kiss that I saw in one trailer that I think probably happens when the crew reunites.

 

[Trekfan12]

They are certainly doing their advertising due diligence. Practically every bus shelter and phone booth I've seen on my walk to work in NYC has a Beyond poster, and I just noticed while watching my MLB TV account that they are doing Beyond ads in-between the innings.

I was watching America's Got Talent, saw commercials for Suicide squad. not one for STB. I wish the bus shelters in the DC are had Beyond posters on them

 

[CRM-114]

Apparently there's already a YouTube review for the movie up but I'm not sure if it's legit yet.

If that review is real, it drops a potentially MASSIVE SPOILER.

Seek and watch at your own risk.

 

[RAMA]

If that review is real, it drops a potentially MASSIVE SPOILER.

Seek and watch at your own risk.

Yes, if it's legit then it's a big spoiler.