Not to derail this thread, but do you know about the Mega Bloks sets that recently came out? I have them and I love them.
You can't as you have to stop at $50,000.
CBS's John Van Citters interviewed about The Guidelines
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Welcome to film production in general. For a feature film they often build sets to use ONCE. These aren't 'fan series' guidelines; they're 'fan film' guidelines. Do your story - move on. And if you do decide to do different stories with different ships/characters, you can probably redress or reuse a previous set.
Its clear CBS and Paramount do not want fans doing their own series any longer. As was said in the Podcast "That's what we (meaning CBS/Paramount) do..." (referring to series and full length feature films.) That will upset a number of fans - for sure, but they are not being ambiguous here.
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$100,000. The $50,000 is per 15 minute episode segment, two segments per episode. As for the $1,000,000, that was my point. If they wouldn't have imposed limits, we would have seen more con artists coming in and making off with piles of cash and little to show for it.
Well I'm glad that JVC is cool about STR going in its own direction. Also cool that this in not retroactive and STR Episode 1 can stay online (YouTube etc..). I wish that some special parameters can be set in place to allow STC and NV to complete there remaining episodes. Also glad audio and fan fiction is exempt from these guide lines
It would be interesting if there was a sudden surge in outfits doing audio dramas. I've recently begun listening to the Big Finish "Doctor Who" plays, and I'm really gaining appreciation for the medium.
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From what I gathered, any fan production still working on their current film/episode will be able to finish it without any issue from CBS.
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Are you kidding? There are people over on Facebook having a meltdown because Rihanna wrote a song for the new Star Trek film. When she said she was a Star Trek fan, you should have seen the comments. They were accusatory, misogynistic, racist, and just utterly disgusting all around. There is a sect of the fandom who are just utterly vile human beings who often speak about Gene Roddenberry's vision, while also making certain they'll never live up to it.
Outside of the page I mod for/with Dennis on Facebook, I tend to not be part of too many Trek pages. Just too much hatred and stupidity out there. Getting too old to deal with people who act like children over something as inconsequential as Star Trek.
Big Finish would do well to licence Star Trek, especially now.
A lot of 'boycott CBS' and 'I'm not watching' [SPOILER ALERT: bet you they will find them selves in a theater watching STB or watching the new series or buying the next comic/novel/toy etc] while the many creators are giving thanks to CBS and fans and encouraging to 'stay tuned' as they prepare the next step.
Unfortunately the negative are usually minor but have the loudest voices
Sadly, horrible human beings exist in many online fandoms, not just Star Trek. Sometimes, I think they get involved solely to complain.
Human nature prevails in every environment. I've met some pretty despicable people at human services nonprofits. It may be giving him too much credit, but there's a notion called "founder's syndrome" that seems relevant to AP on some level.
This part caught my eye too. I keep saying Fan Films should be something done in your backyard, and while that might be too overly dramatic, how can small fan films compete with other fan films that bring in real actors who are part of SAG or who have been in other professionally produced sci fi series before. Maybe Axanar did have a major impact in terms of these guidelines, but the more fan films grow, the more they try to compete with one another and CBS probably did feel threatened by that. I respect them for wanting to protect their property. And it doesn't matter how they treat it. It's still their property.
As for the fans, I've actually left some facebook groups because the fans feel they are entitled. Guess what assholes. You don't own Trek, you don't know what Trek is, and you deserve any kind of mockery you get if you do go ahead with this stupid Boycott of anything Trek. The Trek fandom doesn't need you.
I'm hoping that they get to complete what they already have in production/post, and I'm hoping the compromise involves being able to continue making shorts in their existing series and with their existing regular casts (it would suck if Vic, for example, was now out due to doing voicework for STO), provided they comply with the rest of the guidelines.
Indeed. Thanks, @Wowbagger .
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Oh, they are really fun to listen to, and even more fun to create. I've been in a few episodes of Starship Excelsior. They were small parts, either as the heavy, or as a security officer, but they were so much fun, especially the parts where I got to be the bad guy.
It just felt so good to be a part of something bigger, and to be a part of something where I can express how much I appreciate Star Trek. You want a labor of love? Those guys are in it for the sheer joy of it, not for money, and it shows. ♥
I feel the same way, or at least I have the older I get. When I was younger, there were things that felt important to me that when I look back on them now, just seem pointless. Enjoy your show, enjoy your music, love your favorite food, but quit trying to hurt people who don't. Quit lashing out at people who like something you don't.
That's true. I just point it out because I see it every day, and I can't just like a movie or like music, I have to justify it to people who scream louder and louder the more I try to explain why I do.
After listening to the podcast, I get the impression is the "no Star Trek actors" means they don't want anybody playing the same character, as that might be mistaken as some manner of legitimacy, I don't think Vic's voice work crosses that line.
I've seen that happen so much in the years I've been on twitter that I finally just had to start ignoring it. I join in with others celebrating or discussing the things I enjoy in a constructive manner. If all they do is hate and crap on things, it only feeds their ego by trying to engage them. I like what I like, and I don't tear down people that don't - which is something I wish more people ascribed to.
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