BREAKING: Official Fan Film Guidelines Issued
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I eagerly await them pushing boundaries. If they want to be relevant they should be telling something forward thinking rather than be stuck in the past.
There's no such thing at all. The stipulations are to keep Hollywood professionals or who were Hollywood professionals to fuck off of their properties, and not have the leeway to be CREATIVE with stories and their creative financing.
Pushing boundaries is just fine but I feel very strongly that Star Trek should be family friendly. It was the first thing that attracted me to Star Trek in the first place.
What's family friendly? How are you defining it? Because for many, when you say family friendly that means "good Christian values." And that's not a Star Trek I'm interested in. That's not a forward thinking Star Trek. That's not even TOS.
It's all nostalgia in some form or another, as we're talking about a 50-year-old television series. Paramount is currently counting on this very principle to profit from the 50th anniversary, just as they do every time a repackaging of the films or series is released.
I would also say productions like Star Trek Continues do add something unique, otherwise they would not attract the level of attention that they do from both fans and media. It's an impressive effort that speaks to the level of passion Star Trek is still able to generate in people so many decades later.
I'm reminded of the kids who spent nearly a decade filming a shot-by-shot recreation of Raiders of the Lost Ark. It adds absolutely nothing that wasn't present in the original film and yet it remains wholly unique nonetheless. It has value to those who made it, as well as to those who recognize and understand the spirit of passion that was involved and required for its creation.
Some fans post about Star Trek for years on a message board. Others draw pictures of Spock. Some use their skills to meticulously craft their own Star Trek episodes or films. All of it has value in one way or another. At a fundamental level, it's what has allowed Star Trek to endure for as long as it has.
Here is how CBS defines 'family friendly' which was the basis for my previous posts.
“The fan production must be family friendly and suitable for public presentation. Videos must not include profanity, nudity, obscenity, pornography, depictions of drugs, alcohol, tobacco, or any harmful or illegal activity, or any material that is offensive, fraudulent, defamatory, libelous, disparaging, sexually explicit, threatening, hateful, or any other inappropriate content...”
Now I am sure that the new series will be safe form most of the above. However there are concerns that it will contain profanity and graphic violence. I do not consider these things family friendly. Nor do I consider these things to be forward thinking. Star Trek has always presented a positive image for the future, that mankind can better themselves. To me that’s forward thinking.
As much as a dislike some of the fan film guidelines I am grateful that CBS not only wants to protect their copyright but also the image of Star Trek.
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Ok. Yeah. I would be shocked if we see someone get torn apart with blood and guts flying. It won't be Game Of Thrones. I'm sure that would be off brand.
Now, I would be also shocked if there wasn't a gay character. And for quite a few people that would be considered not family friendly. But, that would be Star Trek, for me. (Though late to the party)
I just signed this Change.org petition to CBS to provide an exemption for Star Trek Continues. It may not make any difference, but let us hope.
Exempt the web series, "Star Trek Continues" from fan-film guidelines from CBS/Paramount.
Exempt the web series, "Star Trek Continues" from fan-film guidelines from CBS/Paramount.
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Honestly, if I saw that happen in Star Trek, I'd stop watching. I don't watch GoT for the same reason, and it's also why I stopped watching The Blacklist.
Ditto.
I don't think the whole thing about keeping the fan films family friendly has anything to do with an intention to keep the franchise as a whole family friendly, I think it's just to keep people from going overboard with the stuff listed above, and to prevent people from putting something really offensive into a fan film with the Star Trek name on it.
While I'm not expecting the new show to go full on Game of Thrones, I wouldn't be surprised if it still took things to at least the level of things we see on basic cable channels like AMC or TNT.
I honestly never really thought of Trek as being purposefully family friendly. With TOS and TNG it was pretty much just the way shows were at the time, and then after that Berman just seemed to be afraid to move to far off of what TNG was, even as the rest of TV changed.
While we would hopefully not descend to that gory level, remember that in all 50 years, we've seen people die in Trek in various gruesome ways, on screen! Strangled, stabbed, vaporised, and blown out into space, all come to mind!
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You do THAT and you're making it worse! This gives CBS every reason to end it all together because some selfish people can't allow the process to go through. STC is not special; they're part of the problem, and the worst thing Vic would want is for idiots to jump the gun. You and who ever is dumb enough to follow your lead is not helping matters.
I agree I see it as a more meaning story and less pew, pew, pew.
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Star Trek Continues has never been part of the problem. They have always sought to honour CBS and the Star Trek Franchise.
Maybe productions can work together and trade uniforms and props as needed. You know I have this official TNG uniform but now I want to make a TOS story, you have a TOS story, but have TNG uniforms lets make a deal. I think most the fan films have been working like his for a long time.
Ugh. You remain stupid.I reacted to you post in three stages:
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Star Trek Continues has never been part of the problem. They have always sought to honour CBS and the Star Trek Franchise.
The Seventh of the Ten Commandment says:
"Thou shalt be family friendly and suitable for public presentation. Thou shalt not include profanity, nudity, obscenity, pornography, depictions of drugs, alcohol, tobacco, or any harmful or illegal activity, or any material that is offensive, fraudulent, defamatory, libelous, disparaging, sexually explicit, threatening, hateful, or any other inappropriate content. The content of the fan production cannot violate any individual’s right of privacy."
For the most part I think that this is the most reasonable of CBS’s Ten Commandments. I don’t particularly want swearing and sexually explicit stuff if fan films either, not that I recall this ever happening, except in parodies. In regards to the alcohol (Scotty is going to be pissed about this – quite literally), it’s very easy to get over this issue in fan films. Just make sure you refer to it as Synthehol! But it’s a shame for any fan film that might want to explore issues of drug and alcohol misuse.
It will be interesting to see if the new Star Trek series also conforms to CBS’s own high standards in this regards. Directors are already commenting that one of the advantages of having Star Trek on a streaming service, and not on TV, is that they can push the boundaries.
I wonder if STC's "vodka martini" lines were targeted at all with that bit of the rule?
