Independence Day - Resurgence

[Paul Weaver]

Anyone going to the midnight showings this evening? Our local odeon has the original on at 20:40 followed by the new one at 00:01.

I'm having to wait until Sunday evening due to babysitting issues

 

[Freman]

If you asked the BBC they wouldn't be allowed to. It was made by audio movies ltd, in conjunction with 20th Century Fox. Getting permission to rebroadcast it wouldn't be easy. It was released on polygram (which became UMG which became Vivendi). I don't think youtube has the full hour, and it doesn't seem possible to buy it any more even if you had a tape player.

I asked Dirk Maggs, the guy who was responsible for ID UK. He said it wasn't getting a rerelease.

It sucks, cuz I know I have a copy of this burnt to a cd somewhere, but I can't find it for the life of me.

 

[John Clark]

Anyone going to the midnight showings this evening? Our local odeon has the original on at 20:40 followed by the new one at 00:01.

I'm having to wait until Sunday evening due to babysitting issues

We're going Saturday. Technically, we could go and see tonights, but I've got work and being the designated driver gives me some leeway on show times

 

[Trekkin]

I saw it this morning.

It was okay for the first two acts, but it wasn't really working for me. The emotional moments and humour just weren't 'clicking'.

Spoiler: Spoilers

Then the last act went full-on Godzilla-meets-Aliens-meets-Star Wars, and I suddenly started enjoying it a lot more!

 

[theenglish]

I think there is a lot of nostalgia for the first film but in all honesty ID4 was a fun but not spectacular movie. At the time, I placed it along with movies like Armageddon. Cool effects, but with the cheese spread thickly on top. It was basically a 50's style B-movie with updated quality.

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

Screw review sites. I went and I saw, and I had fun.

7/10

Fun, fun, fun. I loved it and felt I had gotten my money's worth.

Spoiler

Long live the queen

Jolly good thing that they had the pokeball of death to help them

 

[Trekkin]

Spoiler: Spoiler

When the Pokeball started floating, I instantly turned to my friend and dubbed it 'Good Rover.'

They had no idea what I was referring to.

 

[Kelthaz]

Don't be discouraged by the mixed reviews. The first film didn't review well either.

Independence Day - 61% on RT
Independence Day: Resurgence - 53% on RT (with 32 reviews)

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

Spoiler: Spoiler

When the Pokeball started floating, I instantly turned to my friend and dubbed it 'Good Rover.'

They had no idea what I was referring to.

Odd as it is I got your rover reference and even thought of that while I was watching it. But then also brought up the dreaded pokeball.

 

[Jedi Marso]

I've been looking forward to this one. I really enjoyed the first as a simple-fun popcorn muncher.

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

Ok my thoughts.

I went yesterday and it was FUN!!!!!!!!!!!!

Spoiler

The film starts off with their version of 2016 20 years after the envents of the first movie and most of Earth has been rebuilt and we now have a united world with all nations putting aside their differences to rebuild the world. They have adapted some of the scavanged alien technology from the first movie and figured out ho to build spaceships, fighter aircraft, and other vehicles using a hybrid of Earth and alien technology. For the most part some of the hybrid aircraft and the space fighters look quite cool.

I liked the overall look and feel of the movie, and the alien tech was nice to look at. I had assumed at the end of the first movie they had some living aliens still to find after winning that battle and I was right. They had prisons for the captured aliens and they were very much alive. I always thought that part was just in the books and that no one would have picked up on that and used that but hey they did. I liked that part.

Yes there was a lot of cheese in this movie and emotional moments that were designed to grab you and for me I get emotional so there were a couple of bits where I got a little bit misty eyed. The big reveal of the aliens having a queen was good and I liked how they represented her as a giant alien leader who sat inside a giant alien exo-suit. It fit the movie perfectly. She was mean and pissed off. But us plucky humans don't take shit like that lying down. We will get her, and we did. We killed that bitch.

I have to say it was nice that they fleshed out the aliens a bit more then the first movie. So that wasn't the entire race but a part of it since they have these massive hives that are all over the universe harvesting planets and then moving on. That first mothership was just one of their hives in the very first movie. I am glad that they addressed this as I had always assumed that there was more then just that lot even in the first movie I had always thought that there was a hell of a lot more of them out there still.

Overall I have to say I liked this film and that when it's in its final week at the cinema I plan to go one more time ....... I didn't hang around at the end credits so I don't know if there was any added scene after the credits. I know of hope they didn't do that as it seems to be a useless fad movies have to keep doing now.

My rating

7/10

I AM BUMMED OUT AT THE LACK OF MERCHANDISE.

 

[Ethros]

Just saw it. Good god what a mess. Why did it feel so rushed, every scene was like 8 seconds long. Makes the original look like a cinematic masterpiece.

 

[Commander Richard]

Just saw it. Spoilers ahead.

• I really liked seeing a post alien invasion world rebuilt with alien technology. It was quite a sight. And it looked like they didn't rebuild everything exactly as before except for places of cultural or historical importance like the White House and National Mall.
• If having that big ship to suck out the Earth's core was their objective all along, it makes you wonder what the first wave was for.
• Fichtner is good but I wish they had gotten Will Smith back to fill his role and complete the cast. He could have become President too.
• Liam Hemsworth was actually pretty good and I noticed that he got top billing over Jeff Goldblum.
• I wonder how things would have gone if they had gotten Mae Whitman back. I thought she wasn't asked to come back but according to Emmerich, she didn't want to read for the part.
• At the beginning of the movie, I wondered what they could possibly do for a third movie. I figured that they could go to the alien's planet. Sounded a little far fetched in my head, then sure enough... Anyway, that should be exciting.
• That alien ball reminded me of something I've seen before. It does look like a hybrid between a white Range Rover and the Rover from The Prisoner.

 

[wamdue]

I saw this by random chance yesterday.

This movie has some nice ideas, I really like the "War Lord" character, first of all, it set up a nice bit of story post the first movie, that I had not considered, and is not about Earth uniting around tech reversed engineered from the alien craft. The problem with him, after some nice set up he was underused, and whilst setting up that he kills without fancy guns, in the end they give him a gun, I would have loved to have seen him (and a team) take on some alien close quarters hand to hand.

Away from that moan, the science is worst than the first, whilst I loved the massive scale of everything, enjoying it soon leads to wondering how a ship can sit on 1/5th of the Earth and the rest of the earth have sun light, not clouded over, not to mention the effects of the ocean drilling was ignored.

The characters aside from the War Lord are ok, at the start they can be tiresome, but actually when the action starts they are tolerable, and then at the end they flip a switch back, and I remember that they annoy me.

I did enjoy the alt timeline nature, seeing how the world has changed, the building of the weapon on the moon is some nice sci-fi where you can just sit back and watch humanity seemingly at its best.

Finally my biggest problem is the aliens plan, had failure written on it from the start, if it all stops when the Queen dies, why on Earth, does she ever leave the massive ship that Earth has no hope of defeating, because her ship is something we can defeat, with the level of tech seen, then she leaves for an even smaller ship, leaving her giant ship was just dumb on her part.

For the future there is no question there is scope for a sequel, one focused a bit more on Data, who I think was gay in this movie, seemed a bit out of no where, but it was a nice moment, in a movie with characters who were more often that annoying, or interesting but poorly used.

 

[Amasov]

I saw it last night and it was a lot of fun.

I had just a few gripes with it. It lacked the spirit of the first one. If this makes sense, it felt less grounded in reality. Obviously that's going to be the case with a movie like this. Because we are now looking at parallel history where humanity has successfully fused alien tech with our own, we are less connected to this new world.

I was real interested in exploring the world post-1996 invasion. I would've loved to see some sort of prologue that briefed us on the state of the world over the twenty years. Were New York and Los Angeles restored? If so, what did they look like? The movie's website warof1996.com goes into this a little bit, but it's still fairly vague.

I kind of wished it followed the first movie similarly by doing the "July 2" "July 3" "July 4" intertitles simply for nostalgic purposes.

I absolutely LOVED the idea that another alien race, who was far more impacted by these harvester aliens, contacts Earth to warn them. And that we also discover there are other races out there resisting them. In a sense, these aliens feel almost like this movie universe's version of the Borg.

When the sphere first appeared from the wormhole, did anyone think it looked a lot like the Xindi probe from Enterprise? It was the first thing that popped into my head.

Sidenote: How awesome would it be to see a few Borg cubes battle it out against these aliens?

Overall, I enjoyed it. It was big, loud, stupid fun. And that's exactly what I want out of an Independence Day movie.

 

[Lakenheath 72]

I believe the Harvesters are destroying species that could pose a threat to them in the future. A pre-emptive strike, so to speak. Getting the resources of a planet is a benefit acquired from conquering a species. The artificial lifeforms, or lifeforms, stated that since their planet was destroyed, that the Harvesters have been harvesting thousands of planets. It seems to me that this war contributed to the Harvesters' decision to destroy civilizations before they could pose a threat to them. By following this path, the Harvesters' have actually created the conditions by which a civilization has the means to destroy them.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

I bet there'd be a lot of questions as to whether or not the species that sent the Giant Pokéball is actually one that's worthy of allying with, or if their promise to share technology is genuine, or even if they exist at all and aren't just a fake-out sent by the Harvesters to confuse the humans.

 

[wamdue]

I will be honest, I had trouble trusting Datas character in this in movie, he had been linked to the aliens after all, there could have been some form of control, even more so when he turned the "Void Ship" (Doctor Who*) back on when they were meant to be hiding it, and using the decoy, I kinda figured the aliens would pick up on there being two signals.

Certainly the whole "humanity is special" (seriously Cinema Sins is going to have a field day with this movie) and are worthy of leading our rebellion, is a nice set up for a sequel. I think its more likely the story will be we have so much power we cant use it, and it becomes out undoing, the aliens not needing to do much, just push the right buttons and watch us blow ourselves up.


* I hope there are no Daleks in this one.

 

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[Morpheus 02]

How scAry is this for 7 and 11 year olds. (Who we thought were fine watching, say, even here or captain America civil war, but the new X-Men was too scary.)