I don't mind the Joker's look except for that stupid looking forehead tattoo.
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Isn't he constantly spreading his Joker gas throughout Gotham?
I have to admit, I was a little hesitant about Joker at first, but the look has grown on me, and every Joker clip we've seen in the trailers has been great.
Okay, so what do you think Joker should be based on?
Tony Soprano, Pablo Escobar, Michael Corleone? All drug dealers.
In the contemporary world what kind of guy is going to form a gang of criminals that end up in a chemical plant? Terrorists. So should he be an ISIS agent?
Instead of just providing critiques, give us a clear picture of who the Joker should be in a modern movie in a contemporary context. Frankly, I'm tired of your critiques that don't provide reasonable solutions, so think about it and come back with a good answer as to how the Joker should look and why. Please.
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Just the be clear, Ayer never said the Joker was going to be a drug lord, just that he was inspired by real world drug lord's Instagram accounts.
Would it be out of character for the Joker to sneak his Joker toxin into some pot or cocaine or something like that? It seems to me like the kind of thing I could see him doing in darker, more adult story like Ayer seems to be going for here.
Would it be out of character for the Joker to sneak his Joker toxin into some pot or cocaine or something like that? It seems to me like the kind of thing I could see him doing in darker, more adult story like Ayer seems to be going for here.
He didn't say the Joker was a drug dealer, just that they, as criminals, were part of the inspiration for the look they wanted. Why shouldn't the Joker take some cues from actual criminals? Come on, the Joker dresses in purple suits, trench coats and wide brimmed hats. That's Pimping 101.
Not doing what you want doesn't equal "hating DC".
Um, the Joker's MO is based on chemicals. People don't get a rictus grin and die from his one liners. He's used his chemical prowess to kill people, poison the water supply and mutate fish. He knows his way around a chemistry set and could teach Walter White a thing or two.
Yeah, what people who go on about the Joker's classic look forget is that his look was patterned after how mobsters were depicted in 30's & 40's pop-fiction, which of course was at the time contemporary. So it's perfectly appropriate to update his look along the very same lines.
I happen not to be too fond of the tattoos either, but I find I'm noticing them less and less the more I see of the actual performance. Plus if all else fails there's always the "he's really Jason Todd" theory.
I happen not to be too fond of the tattoos either, but I find I'm noticing them less and less the more I see of the actual performance. Plus if all else fails there's always the "he's really Jason Todd" theory.
Contrary to the rhetoric of politicians and the media, the vast majority of terrorist acts in the US over the past 15 years have been domestic in origin -- white supremacists and other hate groups, Christian militants, anti-government radicals like those folks who seized the wildlife refuge, and the like. As a rule, globally speaking, most of the attacks mounted by terrorists are against their own nation. After all, the whole reason people resort to terrorism is because they're outcasts or renegades with no access to formal mechanisms of power. And so most terrorists are trying to overthrow the status quo in their own societies. Sure, al-Qaeda and ISIL occasionally attack Europe or America, but they're constantly, daily killing thousands of people in the Islamic world, because that's their primary target.
So if the Joker were a terrorist, then statistically he'd be far more likely to be a domestic terrorist. And there's no shortage of radicalized groups in the US to choose from. Maybe combine an anarchist gun nut with a charismatic, exploitative cult leader or a paranoia-spreading lunatic media pundit.
He should look like any main universe Joker from the character's creation until, I don't know, Grant Morrison ruined him. So, like the Batman: TAS Joker. At this point though, I'd even take heath Ledger's look. Basically, he's a psycho with some class, not some idiot who tattoos his face or dresses like a complete tool. He has a timeless look, he doesn't just dress like a "realistic" criminal. He's a freaking supervillain, and a crazy one at that. The terms "modern", "realistic" or "contemporary" should not be used to describe The Joker's look. He has his own style, and making him look like a generic drug dealer/gang member is just atrocious.Yeah, Classic Joker may have a look based on old school mobsters at the time, but it became a ctimeless look. This Joker is the kind of garbage we got from stuff in the 90s, very "modern" stuff that was stupid at the time and aged about as well as a carton of eggs.
It doesn't really matter, I guess. The Joker as a character is already screwed by having an asshole actor who sends used condoms to people, and a writer/director who seems to hate DC Comics anyway. At this point, its probably better not to use the classic Joker. The classic Joker is the one DC needs, but its not the one DC Movies deserves right now. They've made their bed, let them have the worst Joker in the character's history. When their movies fail or get rebooted and don't get tainted by morons like Snyder or Ayer, the actual Joker might come back. Until then, they get what they deserve. A terrible in-name-only character to go with all the other in-name-only characters in the DCEU.
So do the actual performance, writing, and directing matter here at all?
I'm really not that concerned with what the characters look like if the performance is good.
The Suicide Squad Joker really isn't that much different from the kinds of changes that have happened in the comics over the decades.
Hell, this time last year Batman was Jim Gordon in a mech suit. Harley Quinn's wardrobe has changed more times since the New 52 started than some heroes have in their entire existence.
Whoever they hired to handle the publicity for this film does terrific work. I just hope the film is nearly as good.
All that means is: Purple clothes, green hair, white skin and red lips. So it looks like this film has it covered.
Not only do I like that poster on its own, I really like that it has a distinctive look that is different from all the generic movie posters out there.
I love the idea that that poster really embraces the comic book roots of the characters.
Though it does look more Robert Williams than DC.