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Does Paramount no longer own Star Trek?

Actually, I thought Data saying "SHIIIIIIIITTTT!" was the best comic relief moment in Generations.


The most unutterably obscene limerick ever:
(Cesnored, because it's far too randy even for TrekBBS)
Dash dash dash dash-dash dash-dash-dash
Dash-dash-dash dash-dash-dash dash-dash-dash
Dash dash-dash dash dash
Dash dash dash-dash-dash
Dash dash-dash dash-dash-dash dash-dash fuck.
 
Csalem said:
For me I don't mind curse words but it is always about context and appropriateness (for want of a better word). Fuck is fine in something like Fifty Shades of Grey but when it appeared in Vanguard it seemed wrong and out of place. I know that was probably part of the intent but for me it took me out of the story.

Heck, same thing happened to me when I heard bastard and shit in the Trek movies. One way the movies always defined themselves as different to the tv shows was the required use of the word bastard.
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I can understand why you would feel that way, but I thought the context and the fact that it was Quinn of all of the characters, it worked.
 
My own rule of thumb, when it comes to tie-in novels, is to take my cues from the onscreen version. If a show is basically PG-rated, like STAR TREK, I keep the language PG. If the source material is R-rated, like TERMINATOR or UNDERWORLD, I give myself more latitude when it comes to profanity.
 
Greg Cox said:
My own rule of thumb, when it comes to tie-in novels, is to take my cues from the onscreen version. If a show is basically PG-rated, like STAR TREK, I keep the language PG. If the source material is R-rated, like TERMINATOR or UNDERWORLD, I give myself more latitude when it comes to profanity.
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As Grebnedlog would say, "He is smart."
 
JD said:
I can understand why you would feel that way, but I thought the context and the fact that it was Quinn of all of the characters, it worked.
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Maybe I would not have had the reaction if Pennington had said it, since he was based on Ewan McGregor. :)
 
trampledamage said:
But yeah, expressing yourself using curse words is definitely allowed.
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Okay, fine, but to quote the Dowager Countess, "Vulgarity is no substitute for wit."

That dorkweed was right in that there's no need for excessive swearing, but to get bent out of shape of the word "damn" is just asinine. To keep fighting over after being told to chill out is f**king stupid.
 
I don't think we're fighting about it at this point. It's just an interesting conversational topic, especially when it comes to discussing how profanity is perceived differently in different contexts.

As an editor, I've occasionally asked an author to remove an unnecessary "fuck" or two if I thought that maybe a book had young-adult crossover appeal, or because, I confess, I thought a stray "fuck" might hurt our chances of making a sale to the Scholastic Book Club. On the other hand, some books are rough by nature, so it would be weird not to have swearing in them. (I'm currently editing a novel about an 18th century pirate queen, and, yeah, she's got a mouth on her and isn't exactly delicate about her language.)

I have, in my time, met individuals who refused to read an otherwise good book simply because the f-word was in it. Gotta admit, I don't get that at all.
 
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I remember, as a child, being rather shocked at a line in David Gerrold's "making of" book on "The Trouble with Tribbles," in which he decided to make them "bi-sexual, reproducing at will" because he couldn't exactly have "tribbles fucking in the corridors."

Then again, as a high school freshman or sophomore, Gerrold managed to shock me again, when I read When HARLIE Was One.
 
I used to work with someone who pretty much used 'fuck' as punctuation. She used to say that her language and her floury bannocks would be the two things she'd be remembered for. I still bump into her now and then and she's not changed in the slightest.

Bugger, bugger bollocks, Sweetie Darling (was having a binge of AbFab recently).
 
Bry_Sinclair said:
I used to work with someone who pretty much used 'fuck' as punctuation. She used to say that her language and her floury bannocks would be the two things she'd be remembered for. I still bump into her now and then and she's not changed in the slightest.

Bugger, bugger bollocks, Sweetie Darling (was having a binge of AbFab recently).
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My wife says Fuck is the exclamation mark of the 21st century.
 
To the person who e-mailed me:

1) This board does have a PM feature. Please use it.
--A) If you're going to e-mail, use a valid reply-to return address.
--B) And how the hell did you get my e-mail address anyway?
2) Look at my avatar icon. Yes, I was in the military. Why would you even question that?
--A) I was in the US Air Force for 26 year.
--B) I was stationed on US Army posts for 7 years.
--C) I worked with a US Marine unit for 4 months during a deployment.
--D) I'm even married to a former US Navy sailor, and yes she can use "colorful language" when she feels the need.
--E) In other words, yes, I am used to hearing a LOT of cussing, and even do some myself.
3) So, to answer your question: No, I'm not overly offended by reading swear words on a screen. I just don't see the need to drop the F-bomb every other sentence. As I said, quoting a TV show, "Vulgarity is no substitute for wit."
 
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