Oh, sorry I didn't answer - it's the meltdown of Space City Comic-Con. Trademark! Cops! A corporate board of directors fight! Angry VIP ticketholders who feel they've been defrauded! Allegations of embezzlement!
CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar
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I don't think so -- Chicken Sushi would be a legitimate attempt at trying to kill you though.
I think there have been times when it's been close - but he could potentially be projecting, thinking of what may happen on the 8th. I don't know. I'm not in the fellow's head.
What? No need to apologize. I'm sorry if you felt my post came of as an attack or something because as you (rightly) expressed your point (and I didn't think your post was either not well thought out as it was your opinion (an you have a right to your opinion - don't let anyone tell you otherwise); as like you I just replied with my opinion.
I have already apologized twice for that poorly worded, hasty, off topic, and not well thought out post. If I had the privileges I would delete it. I'd appreciate it if we could move past it.
In the end hopefully, this is all just a friendly discussion (with strong opinions on BOTH sides); and in the end NEITHER ONE of our opinions is right or wrong. I hope you'll continue to post and bring your POV whatever it is.
Just qouting to split this out from the JJ debate, some reports from the Space City Comic-Con:
http://www.chron.com/entertainment/...Space-City-Comic-Con-plagued-with-7954991.php
http://www.officialavajade.com/comi...cts-broken-and-many-still-looking-for-answers
http://www.houstonpress.com/arts/sp...rlie-hunnam-strong-armed-them-updated-8447215
http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/06...-apologies-to-space-city-comic-con-attendees/
No offense intended but can we PLEASE keep this thread on Axanar and not on the JJTrek discussion. I really am tired of having to weed through multiple (long) posts every page of things not relevant to the lawsuit. Certainly there is a lot to discuss regarding JJTrek but can we do it in another thread!!!As al OLD Star Trek fan, I couldn't disagree more with your assessment of the JJ Abrams Star Trek films having so little respect for the material because (and IMO) as far as TOS goes, those films DID incorporate many aspects of TOS (and I am talking TOS here - not TNG or the later Star Trek entries.) If you can honestly sit here and try to claim every TOS episode was written with a 'socially relevant theme in mind'; or that TOS never had a good dose of just plain action or adventure - or pretty women in skimpy costumes; I would have to ask which version of TOS you were watching because if you can't acknowledge the above - you WEREN'T watching Star Trek (1966-69) produced by Gene Roddenberry and Desilu/Paramount.
yes, in later years - GR tried lie hell to play up all the 'socially relevant' aspects of Star trek, and yes they were occasionally there; but all the OTHER things I mentioned were there as well and made up what Star Trek (1966-69) was. Yes, TNG (and the later series) became VERY popular but TNG RETCONNED so much from TOS is was ridiculous. In 1987 many Star Trek fans didn't consider TNG very 'Star Trek'; but to many of the new fans the show added TNG did become their litmus test of what 'Star Trek' was - and that's fine.
However, the thing you need to remember about the JJ films ins that they ARE NOT based on the TNG era - and I think that's a thing many TNG fans don't want to reconcile. They want a 'kinder/gentler' TOS era; but TOS was never that and I for one am happy JJ didn't incorporate TNG era values into a film series based on the TOS era. I also realize that a lot of TOS fans do like to feel that TOS was 'at it's best' when it dealt with social issues directly; and they don't see either of the two (a third is coming but it's not due until July 11, 2016) JJ Star Trek outings really dealing with that aspect; or they don't like the changes to James T. Kirk as a result of his father dying before Kirk ever got a chance to know/be raised by him or the changes to Mr. Spock because of the destruction of Vulcan and the death of his human mother <---- And that's IMO fair to dislike 'JJ Trek' for those changes as well. But IMO - overall for me - JJ did capture a large portion of what I liked about TOS; and has respected Star Trek canon to a large degree given the sweeping changes this alternate universe/timeline has.
The thing to remember: Like all 'new' Star trek - JJ Abram's Star Trek HAS brought ne fans into the Star trek franchise, and I'm sure many of them see that version as 'their' Star Trek, much like the TOS TV version of Star Trek is what I most enjoy and consider 'Star Trek', as well as the TNG/DS9VOY/ENT fans who consider one of those shows their favorite version of 'Star Trek' (with all the aspects from a given series that entails, which fans of other Star Trek series may not like or want to include as 'Star Trek'.)
I'm sure TNG fans will get another 'dose' of this as the new CBS 'All Access' series makes its way into viewers homes and we'll see another set of new fans to which THIS series becomes their 'Star Trek' and fans of other series will be pointing out the retcons and changes they call 'Not Trek™' as these new fans say "Hey it's 'Star Trek' to me; I like it..."
Well considering JJ Abrams and Justin Lin inserted themselves into the C/P V. Axanar lawsuit situation with JJ Abrams comments that because of requests from Justin Lin and himself - Paramount management told him the lawsuit would be "going away..." - I'd say JJ Abrams work is now related to the discussion about the lawsuit - Especially as on of the Axanar arguments for settling the lawsuit is : "10000+ backers want to see Axanar; and feel Axanar is 'true Star Trek™' as compared to what C/P have given Star Trek fgans in the last few years..." - and that's JJ Abrams Star Trek in particular.
If you want documents strictly relevant to that lawsuit - I'd suggest you look them up and read them for yourself on Pacer . That way you can skip any third party commentary altogether.
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I just read through at least part of the Galanter/Burnett Twitter exchange and it was hilarious.
If RBM is going to continue to be such a huge supporter of AP and Axanar after it's turned into nothing but a giant clusterfuck, then he deserves everything he's gotten. At this point if he can't handle some internet criticism, he should just get off the interent.
If RBM is going to continue to be such a huge supporter of AP and Axanar after it's turned into nothing but a giant clusterfuck, then he deserves everything he's gotten. At this point if he can't handle some internet criticism, he should just get off the interent.
That still doesn't mean that people hashing over the JJ films ad nauseam is germane to the topic at hand. I'm with feek61 on this.
Inconcievable!
This could stand to have its own thread. Is there one? I had looked yesterday but no dice.
Sorry for the off-topic.
I am WELL aware of the facts of the case which I have followed from the beginning and of who said what; I agree and it's obvious that the comments by JJ and Lin regarding Axanar is relevant to the topic. Long posts talking about the merits or lack there of of his Trek films is not relevant to Axanar which is what this thread is about. Your entire LONG post did not mention Axanar, the lawsuit or JJ or Lin's comment regarding Axanar. That is what I was referring to; the aspects of JJ NOT relevant to the topic here.
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Oh, too funny. In Burnett's defense, he is correct in saying he didn't instigate that exchange. But I have a feeling that was simply a continuation of earlier such exchanges.
Galanter's extremely limited association with Axanar is well documented on 1701News, here:
http://1701news.com/node/1177/trek-author-chronicles-his-days-axanar.html
http://1701news.com/node/1177/trek-author-chronicles-his-days-axanar.html
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