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CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar

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If anyone out there is planning on writing about Axanar, it might be smart to start taking downloads of the Axanar pronouncements emanating from their thought leaders in the last year or two. I suspect if their case explodes on them, they will be deleting all they can.


This x 10........am sure Carlos is already on it though
 
I am not sure how studios could set guidelines for fundraising based on funding paradigms that are evolving. The guidelines would be end-arounded at some point.

I don't think the "abandoned IP" argument washes; just look at all the rebooting going on.

The only solution I can see is studios vetting proposals one by one, with "guidelines" being the starting point for discussion.

Things relevant to new media are changing too quickly to be anticipated 100% by guidelines.

I give Axanar Productions credit for recognizing that this rising technical ability will create potential new content providers for networks.

I give Axanar Productions the razzie for trying to prove this and position themselves ahead of the pack by walking all over their potential customers (the studios) and donor fans when Axanar couldn't get the studios to accept a pitch from a company with almost no bench capable of making the vision happen (August podcast, their plans and their frustration they couldn't get CBS to buy in to the company as a future content source).

If you want to sell your idea you need to assemble the ability to do it (technical and management and industry knowledge, not just a green screen), and not make yourself untouchable (poor decisions, badmouthing, poor business admin, etc.) in the target industry in the process.

Regarding fundraising: CBS could simply say no fundraising. That's a way around ever evolving fundraising paradigms. A simple, nope, you can't fund raise.

Fund raising was one of the reasons this mess all happened.
 
Just when you thought this thing could not get any more surreal. COUNTER-SUIT ? Really ? I need to lay down...
 
I am dumbfounded ........................ I was so wrong about this.
I for one won't say, "Nah nah nah, I told you so," but rather, "Welcome to the club, a lot of us have been down that road."
I have been down that road. Donor/believer --> What can I do to help them --> to 'wait a minute ... what does this mean'... and 'what does that mean', and 'hold on -- what's going on here' --> dumbfounded --> to calling bs on everything.

It made me really sad. I mean, I had really believed in them.

It does defy common sense
<shaking head yes at the computer screen>
 
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I find it hard to believe that Team Axanar couldn't have claimed extenuating circumstances and gotten an extension from the judge if they wanted to. It seems like they are just using a bad-cop defense when they really wanted to exploit the situation.
Like I said elsewhere, if anyone can talk himself back into the frying pan at this stage, it would be AP.
 
I admit, my exposure to 'unclean hands' submissions is purely in relation to contract cases. IP law isn't my area of expertise at all, but from my exposure to, 'unclean hands' seems...inapplicable in this case.

The only way I can think of them even trying, is if they're gonna try and say that CBS gave them permission, and therefore they had an agreement that CBS is breaching. Or they're still pursuing the 'but they shouldn't be signalling us out!' thing, and will try to pitch it as harassment or whatnot.

Here, what constitutes 'unethical' behavior is determined by common law. If you want to try and find out Axanar's angle and how successful it might be, the US or state precedent is presumably what you'd need to find out
 
I tend to think that they still have to prep like they are going to trial without a settlement in hand. It doesn't look good, but I can see the logic.
Yeah, me too. And someone said 'throwing everything against the wall to see if anything sticks'. Yup, that goes on. And, you know, sometimes something sticks. Which is one of the reasons why some people who deserve to pay the justice served for their sins against others... don't. And some people who are fully deserving of being protected by the justice system... aren't.

Lawsuits and other justice system matters are (as someone else here said) tricksy hobitses.

The counterclaim, though ...?
seriously <said with heavy vocal fry>
 
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