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CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar

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Wrong. If it wasn't Star Trek then CBS/P wouldn't have a problem.

It is Trek, ergo problemo.
Or more specifically, Axanar was using Star Trek IP is their movie as well as to gain donations. If it wasn't a Star Trek fan film, it wouldn't have gotten a million dollars.
Exactly. AP promoted Axanar as follows from the Axanar IndieGoGo funding campaign:

"Axanar
is the first fully-professional, independent Star Trek film. While some may call it a "fan film" as we are not licensed by CBS, Axanar has professionals working in front and behind the camera, with a fully-professional crew--many of whom have worked on Star Trek itself--who ensure Axanar will be the quality of Star Trek that all fans want to see.

For you, the Star Trek fan, Axanar is a return to the type of Star Trek all of us grew up on, with a hopeful future where mankind works with other races to explore the stars, via storytelling that is positive and teaches us about ourselves. Axanar feels like Star Trek because it is made by two of the biggest Star Trek fans in the world, Alec Peters and Robert Burnett. Alec was the executive producer/co-writer of Prelude to Axanar, and Rob wrote & directed Free Enterprise."

AP is claiming Axanar is Star Trek, give me your money. I'm surprised CBS/P didn't go after AP & Co sooner than they did.
 
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Sarek - 17 episode appearances...

That can't be right. He was in "Journey to Babel", "Yesteryear", Star Trek III: The Search for Spock, Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home, Star Trek V: The Final Frontier, Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country, "Sarek", "Unification I" and mentioned in "Unification II".

Plus, the character wasn't in Star Trek Into Darkness.
 
E. Hamboyan has, I believe, more on-screen time than Garth, but is utterly unmemorable (sorry, Andrew MacBeth). Hamboyan says maybe one line? Maybe not even that. Compared to that, Garth has a back story.

so what if he was played by [random popculture hearthrob spinner stops on] Orlando Bloom, and was memorable in the minds of viewers purely because of presence, in spite of having no backstory or interesting lines? Maybe just a flusteringly-received wink at T'Pol now and then? :cool:

can an actors presence define 'memorable' for copyright purposes?
 
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Wrong. If it wasn't Star Trek then CBS/P wouldn't have a problem.

It is Trek, ergo problemo.
Even as recently as Treklanta 2016 Peters was using Star Trek in the title of Axanar's promo material and being billed as a "Star Trek Guest Of Honor" and producer on "Star Trek: Axanar". Then's those Yahoo stories from 2014 claiming that Peters had official sanction to make a Star Trek movie from CBS. As well as all the social media for Axanar uses "startrekaxanar" as their handle.

That aside, I guess we're ignore the reused Trek costumes, the reused Abrams style ships, all the planets and terminology from trek.

So yeah, it's pretty clear Axanar is a Star Trek project
 
And Star Trek has never been "family friendly" or "child friendly". How many times have we watched characters get tortured or turned into flaming human torches in the last fifty years? A LOT!

just the crews of McGuffin ships would fill books.
 
just the crews of McGuffin ships would fill books.
Doppelganger Kirk attempting to rape Yeoman Rand and then Spock making a joke about it to her at the end of the episode....you know, for kids

The first 1/2 of STII...cause kids aren't afraid enough of leeches.

Spock mind raping Valeris...cause kids need to learn it's reall "enhanced interogation"

Captain Picard being physically mutilated and pyschologically voilated...for kids
 
Neither you, Pedraza or Hinman are "fans". You are professionals and you are making money in the entertainment business.

One can be both. Unless you're saying that *I'm* also not a fan?

I've been a fan since 1971. I also run this place and write the news for it.

And I think Alec is a crook. A narcissistic crook. Like the Kardashians, I wish he'd just fade away.
 
My 3-year son is VERY disturbed by television violence, and we can't watch anything that has more than some fisticuffs when he is awake. Interestingly enough, films with a PG-13 rating seem to have larger amounts of violence and smaller amounts of nudity/sexual content than they did a decade or two ago.

A couple years ago, some study was widely quoted in news articles as saying that movies are more violent than they used to be, based on a higher number of violent incidents being portrayed in movies. However, it was purely quantitative, and did not address the qualitative question of the type of violence being portrayed.

For instance, I think all the action going on in PG-13 "The Avengers" from 2012 is of a different quality than the bloody shark attacks and severed body parts in PG-rated "Jaws" from 1975.

On the other hand, there's an argument that all this "action violence," which doesn't result in blood or any real injuries, presents a distorted picture of violence and its effects. I.e. when James Bond shoots a bunch of people, and nobody bleeds, and the whole thing looks really cool, what does that teach kids? :shrug:

But I think I'm getting too far off-topic now. :o

Kor
 
I *could* have been a fan during the original run and believe I saw a handful, but my parents, who watched such trash as Lost in Space, turned up their noses at Trek.
Poor T'Bonz!

I first saw Trek in the UK on it's first run. If that translates to about 70-72 (can't remember which, I was 8 to 10 years old (I can't remember!).

As for child friendly, Balok was scary, and lots the other Trek episodes had their moments, beyond the more adult related bad moments we've mentioned re Rand and Mara which I didn't understand as I do now.

My late Dad got me into Trek as I liked SF, and I had already been watching the last season of Patrick Troughton's Dr Who (another thing I don't remember too much of!), but I do remember being too scared to watch Dr Who when the Daleks were on, but I could listen to the episodes from under the oak dining table of my grandparents on a Saturday evening!

Dr Who, the kids show that got debated in Parliment as too scary for kids, that started out as a semi educational series with the alternate sci-fi/historical stories, and which some producers made intending to scare the kids which they knew were part of the audience!
 
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