Warner bros announce superhero films through 2020

[Gaith]

I'm not sure which project is more unnecessary: a Flash or Inhumans movie. I guess the former, because it'd be a very different version of the Barry Allen character we TV fans know and love, but by the time/if an Inhumans movie actually gets made, we'll presumably have had years and years of them on AoS, not to mention the ongoing X-Men verse.

Aquaman is maybe even less necessary than both of those, however. Because freaking Aquaman.

 

[Tosk]

by the time/if an Inhumans movie actually gets made, we'll presumably have had years and years of them on AoS

But not the Royal Family. Is it an unnecessary movie just because they're the same species as the characters on AoS?

 

[M.A.C.O.]

"The Flash is a fun character, so I want to make a fun movie."
"We don't do 'fun' here."

Pride, Prejudice and Zombies and Abraham Lincoln Vampire Hunter aren't what I would call ringing endorsements for this man's talent.

Or maybe, perhaps he wanted Flash to have a talking tiger sidekick. Haha

Looks like James Wan is leaving Aquaman as well.

"According to multiple, reliable sources"... Uh huh

These guys are so dishonest, it's funny at this point. Like the multiple confirmed sources who said Suicide Squad was going to undergo reshoots for more comedy.

I can't trust anything that has been "sourced" on the internet anymore.

If Wan does leave though, I hope he comes back for Furious 8.

 

[Christopher]

Aquaman is maybe even less necessary than both of those, however. Because freaking Aquaman.

Iron Man wasn't taken all that seriously as a character before 2008. And Aquaman's reputation is undeserved. It's based mainly on the meme that he was lame in Super Friends, but everyone was lame in Super Friends. Aquaman is a character with a history almost as long as Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman, and there's a lot of material there that can be interesting and effective if handled right. (Heck, I'd love to see a whole movie based on the Batman: The Brave and the Bold version of Aquaman. Outrageous!)

On the other hand, I thought Jason Momoa was a terrible actor on Stargate Atlantis, and I have no idea if he's improved his acting (or his enunciation) since then.

 

[dahj]

Was Seth Grahame-Smith even officially announced as the director?
Anyway, I'm glad they've decided to go with someone more experienced to direct The Flash.

Regarding the James Wan rumour, considering the source I'm taking it with an extremely large rock of salt.

 

[Set Harth]

Aquaman's reputation is undeserved. It's based mainly on the meme that he was lame in Super Friends, but everyone was lame in Super Friends.

"Aquaman sucks!" - Raj Koothrappali

 

[Gaith]

But not the Royal Family. Is it an unnecessary movie just because they're the same species as the characters on AoS?

Not being a comics guy, I have no built-in awareness or interest in this Royal Family of yours. 'Course, it being Marvel Studios, if they make it I'll certainly watch it, but with all the Inhumans on AoS and the mutants in the X-verse, it doesn't sound new and different to me in the way a Black Panther or Captain Marvel or Wonder Woman movie does.

Iron Man wasn't taken all that seriously as a character before 2008. And Aquaman's reputation is undeserved. It's based mainly on the meme that he was lame in Super Friends, but everyone was lame in Super Friends.

No, it's based on the fact that he swims and rules the oceans, and outside of comics and animation, especially in the photoreal/gritty Snyder-Murderverse world, outside of a few colorful reefs very near the surface, oceans tend to be pretty dark and boring, and humanoids swimming around really fast and talking in them looks ridiculous. Namor isn't saddled with a similarly mocking meme, but I notice Marvel Studios hasn't been focusing on doing a movie with him...

 

[theenglish]

I am interested in seeing how the movie deals with the Atlanteans essentially talking under water.

 

[The Old Mixer]

Telepathy is the most likely option, since Aquaman uses it to talk to sea creatures anyway. It's also how the merpeople on Lori Lemaris's side of Atlantis communicated.

Not being a comics guy, I have no built-in awareness or interest in this Royal Family of yours. 'Course, it being Marvel Studios, if they make it I'll certainly watch it, but with all the Inhumans on AoS and the mutants in the X-verse, it doesn't sound new and different to me in the way a Black Panther or Captain Marvel or Wonder Woman movie does.

Basically the Royal Family are the main Inhuman characters in the comics. Doing Inhumans without them is like doing mutants without the X-Men. That said, they're no X-Men...but Marvel Studios turned the Guardians of the Galaxy into box office gold, so I wouldn't underestimate their ability to put out a kick-ass Inhumans film.

 

[Christopher]

Not being a comics guy, I have no built-in awareness or interest in this Royal Family of yours. 'Course, it being Marvel Studios, if they make it I'll certainly watch it, but with all the Inhumans on AoS and the mutants in the X-verse, it doesn't sound new and different to me in the way a Black Panther or Captain Marvel or Wonder Woman movie does.

In their favor, the Inhuman Royal Family does have a giant bulldog who has a tuning fork on his head and can teleport. And they have a monarch named Blackagar Boltagon. The mutants can't say that.

No, it's based on the fact that he swims and rules the oceans, and outside of comics and animation, especially in the photoreal/gritty Snyder-Murderverse world, outside of a few colorful reefs very near the surface, oceans tend to be pretty dark and boring, and humanoids swimming around really fast and talking in them looks ridiculous. Namor isn't saddled with a similarly mocking meme, but I notice Marvel Studios hasn't been focusing on doing a movie with him...

I think that's mainly because of the tangled movie rights -- Namor used to be with Universal, and now there's probably some mix-up with Fox because he's a mutant.

And, yeah, Aquaman's based in the sea, but that doesn't mean you can't structure a story that features him in more film-appropriate settings. I mean, heck, humans don't come from space, but we still have Star Trek. In the comics, Aquaman has often operated on land as much as in the sea. And lots of movies have been set in the oceans aboard ships and submarines and the like. And there's no reason a fantasy ocean has to be dark and boring. Heck, it's all CGI these days. If they could pull off Finding Nemo, why couldn't they make Aquaman look good?

 

[Timby]

If Wan does leave though, I hope he comes back for Furious 8.

Fast 8 has been shooting for almost two months under F. Gary Gray.

 

[M.A.C.O.]

I just realized that Faraci is the one reporting that James Wan might leave Aquaman. Timby and I discussed him last month with regards to the Suicide Squad reshoots. Timby's post sums it up better than I could.

With Faraci, it's less "unreliable reporting" so much as it is "more than willing to make stuff up in order to fit his narrative." (See: "Snyder is getting secretly fired from Justice League" / "Suicide Squad needs to be funnier" / "People internally refer to the movie as Man of Murder," etc.) He was also bleating on and on a while back that Joaquin Phoenix was the true casting for Doctor Strange, and Cumberbatch was just a smokescreen.

This is his reaction to someone leaking the screenplay for Fantastic Four after opening weekend (and the guy he's berating, we will note, never actually leaked the thing and Faraci never apologized):

 

[Commander Richard]

...outside of a few colorful reefs very near the surface, oceans tend to be pretty dark and boring, and humanoids swimming around really fast and talking in them looks ridiculous.

Aquaman's scene was pretty laughable for that very reason and I've been trying to think of a way around it. The underwater scene from the Miss Peregrine trailer looked pretty good so hopefully an Aquaman movie can incorporate stuff like that.

 

[JD]

In their favor, the Inhuman Royal Family does have a giant bulldog who has a tuning fork on his head and can teleport. And they have a monarch named Blackagar Boltagon. The mutants can't say that.




I think that's mainly because of the tangled movie rights -- Namor used to be with Universal, and now there's probably some mix-up with Fox because he's a mutant.

And, yeah, Aquaman's based in the sea, but that doesn't mean you can't structure a story that features him in more film-appropriate settings. I mean, heck, humans don't come from space, but we still have Star Trek. In the comics, Aquaman has often operated on land as much as in the sea. And lots of movies have been set in the oceans aboard ships and submarines and the like. And there's no reason a fantasy ocean has to be dark and boring. Heck, it's all CGI these days. If they could pull off Finding Nemo, why couldn't they make Aquaman look good?

Reading this post did give me one idea about how they could handle Atlantis. Maybe they could have the city in giant bubble like the Gugan's city in the Star War universe, that way they could still be underwater, but wouldn't have to actually be in water.

 

[Gaith]

I think that's mainly because of the tangled movie rights -- Namor used to be with Universal, and now there's probably some mix-up with Fox because he's a mutant.

Maybe, but we don't see Marvel Studios clamoring for the rights back, now, do we?

And there's no reason a fantasy ocean has to be dark and boring.

On Pandora, maybe not. On Earth, as I said above, the actual colorful parts is pretty shallow and small compared to the endless, dark depths.

If they could pull off Finding Nemo, why couldn't they make Aquaman look good?

Cartoon fish talking to each other underwater is not analogous to live-action humanoids talking underwater. It's just not, hombre.

 

[Christopher]

On Pandora, maybe not. On Earth, as I said above, the actual colorful parts is pretty shallow and small compared to the endless, dark depths.

What, and no movie has ever portrayed a part of Earth in an exaggerated or unrealistic way?

Cartoon fish talking to each other underwater is not analogous to live-action humanoids talking underwater. It's just not, hombre.

I'm talking about the setting, not the characters. Finding Nemo's portrayal of the ocean environment was actually pretty well-researched and grounded in reality, though no doubt somewhat stylized and exaggerated as well.

Anyway, the fact that you can't imagine how it could work doesn't mean it can't work -- it just means that you're not a professional filmmaker and thus don't have the talent or skill to figure it out. I don't know how to fly a plane, but I'd never assume that means nobody can make a plane fly. It just means I don't have the knowledge to answer that question because it isn't my profession. But other people, people trained in that profession, can solve problems I'd have no idea how to solve. The reason you can't see how to make an undersea movie work is because it's not your job to figure that out. It's theirs. So give them a chance to do their job, to show you how it can work, before you decide it's impossible.

 

[Nerys Myk]

On Pandora, maybe not. On Earth, as I said above, the actual colorful parts is pretty shallow and small compared to the endless, dark depths.

What should it matter what the real ocean looks like? It's not going to be a BBC nature documentary.

 

[Turtletrekker]

I think that's mainly because of the tangled movie rights -- Namor used to be with Universal, and now there's probably some mix-up with Fox because he's a mutant.

Maybe, but we don't see Marvel Studios clamoring for the rights back, now, do we?

There are complications regarding Namor's rights.

IGN: Finally, there were rumours circulating awhile back that Universal and Legendary Pictures were developing a Sub-Mariner movie, but there was also some confusion about who holds the rights to the character. So could Legendary make that movie at this point?

Kevin Feige: No.

IGN: So if a film were to happen it would be you guys making it?

Feige: Yes, but it’s slightly more complicated than that. Let’s put it this way – there are entanglements that make it less easy. There are older contracts that still involve other parties that mean we need to work things out before we move forward on it. As opposed to an Iron Man or any of the Avengers or any of the other Marvel characters where we could just put them in.

 

[Tosk]

I'm as bored by Aquaman as the next person, believe me. But all you have to do is Google 'deep sea photos' to see how easy it would be to make a beautiful looking film. Will they though? Time will tell.

 

[M'rk son of Mogh]

Maybe, but we don't see Marvel Studios clamoring for the rights back, now, do we?

How exactly would one see Marvel Studios clamor for something? I haven't been reading the internal Disney memos regarding this recently, so I may be out of the loop.