Star Trek Series - After Spock Creates Blackhole

[Into Darkness]

I think they should create a new TV series that is set in the prime universe, the first episode will focus on the destruction of Romulus by the Hobus Star and the aftermath. The first episode will spend time on the disappearance of Spock into the blackhole and theorise he may have gone back in time and inadvertently created an alternate timeline in an alternate universe. So basically it is of course canon that Spock has gone back in time and created a new timeline so the movies are real, but it also means the original prime universe continues on in Spocks absence.
We can now have a new series based on the future of the prime universe and the aftermath of Romulus' destruction. The series will also focus on other galactic happenings such as the Cardassians making moves to join the Federation following the Dominion debacle. Also the Klingons choose to use the destruction of Romulus as an excuse to expand their territory causing them to come into new conflict with the Federation.

 

[TwoJakes]

I think the assumption would be that Spock's mission was a failure (it was) and that he was simply killed.

Using the destruction of Romulas and the resulting consequences as a reoccurring story line would be great, but it can't be the only (or even main) story. An interesting blend of diverse new and old plot lines is (imho) a requirement.

I wouldn't mind the Cardassians completely disappearing, their empire dissolved after the Dominion War. And even the Klingons reduced to rarely mentioned background players in the show.

 

[Into Darkness]

Hmmm, I can't see Klingons being reduced to background players, it stands to reason they'd move in on Romulan territory. Infact many races would probably move in such as the Breen, perhaps the Tholians. The whole of Romulan space would become a free for all with the remnants of the Romulan Empire trying to hold them off. The destruction of Romulus is more or less a destruction of the Romulan Empire itself, which could potentially mean all treaties are null and void, so the Federation would be free to implement cloaking technology on all their new ships which could make a good plot device.
It could be that there is an enemy on the otherside of Romulan space that we don't know about that was kept at bay by the Romulans. Now Romulus has fallen this unknown race could be one of the empires that decide to move in.

 

[Dukhat]

I'm pretty sure we'll find out in the next couple of months just exactly what the new show will be about.

 

[Oso Blanco]

It could be that there is an enemy on the otherside of Romulan space that we don't know about that was kept at bay by the Romulans. Now Romulus has fallen this unknown race could be one of the empires that decide to move in.

Now that sounds like a good idea!

 

[Tosk]

I'm pretty sure we'll find out in the next couple of months just exactly what the new show will be about.

Not until after Beyond has come out, most likely. Just a guess though.

 

[Longinus]

I hope they'd ignore the comics, and make the supernova be the star of the Romulus/Remus star system. There's no need to have stupid superluminal nova.

Romulans are one of the major alien races, but I always felt they were poorly defined and developed. This would be a chance to give them some new character. Let the Klingons invade the weakened Romulan Star Empire, causing new tensions between Klingons and UFP. Then we could have scattered bands of Romulan guerillas and pirates.

 

[Dukhat]

Not until after Beyond has come out, most likely. Just a guess though.

Well, isn't Beyond coming out in the next couple of months?

 

[-Brett-]

That movie is nearly seven years old now. It'll be even older when the series aires. Most of the audience outside of this forum forgot everything that happened within seven minutes of leaving the theatre.

Continuity porn has to be slipped in (if at all) in very small doses, very infrequently.

 

[Dukhat]

That movie is nearly seven years old now. It'll be even older when the series airs. Most of the audience outside of this forum forgot everything that happened within seven minutes of leaving the theatre.

Continuity porn has to be slipped in (if at all) in very small doses, very infrequently.

Not to mention that the last time we saw the Prime universe was 11 years ago with TATV. Which is all the more reason why I'm hoping the new show will be a complete reboot instead of an instance of trying to rehash old continuity that nobody except us nerds cares about.

 

[M-Red]

I think one of the reasons this new series will be on All-Access is to avoid worrying about attracting and pleasing a wide general audience. This will be pitched for the fanbase and TPTB will see how much money can be produced going that route.

They want to make the Trek franchise as profitable as possible and they know the fanbase values the continuity and history of the franchise. Could be wrong but that's why I think it will be set somewhere in the Primeverse. A post-Romulus destruction series would be a logical choice.

 

[Dukhat]

I think one of the reasons this new series will be on All-Access is to avoid worrying about attracting and pleasing a wide general audience. This will be pitched for the fanbase and TPTB will see how much money can be produced going that route.

But lackluster sales of TOS, TNG and ENT blurays have already shown CBS that they can't rely solely on fan support to make their new show successful.

 

[TwoJakes]

Hmmm, I can't see Klingons being reduced to background players ...

My personal wish to see the Klingon pushed to the backburner is that they were so prominent in so many past episodes, let's give some other species a chance. It's not that the Klingons would disappear, just not be a focus.

it stands to reason they'd move in on Romulan territory.

I agree, as too would the Federation. It would certainly be in the Federation's best interests not to allow the Romulan Empire to reconstitute itself. The Federation might annex the territory immediately ajacent to itself, star systems with no indigenous peoples.

The whole of Romulan space would become a free for all with the remnants of the Romulan Empire trying to hold them off.

If the Romulan had been invading worlds and subjugating indigenous people to grow their empire, then the fall of the Empire would have freed these people, people who now have Romulan technology. Some of these people might seek treaties with the Federation to help secure their continuing independance.

... could potentially mean all treaties are null and void

No more neutral zone, the Romulan's former territory would be open unclaimed space.

It could be that there is an enemy on the otherside of Romulan space

The episode Balance of Terror suggested this.

But lackluster sales of TOS, TNG and ENT blurays ...

it's been years since I last bought anything on disc, not sure I still have a bluray player anymore.

 

[cultcross]

I think one of the reasons this new series will be on All-Access is to avoid worrying about attracting and pleasing a wide general audience

I think you've got that backwards - they want this show on their streaming service to boost subscriptions. I.e. it specifically needs to have broad appeal. This is no fanwank piece, this is the modern equivalent of Voyager launching UPN.

 

[M-Red]

I think you've got that backwards - they want this show on their streaming service to boost subscriptions. I.e. it specifically needs to have broad appeal. This is no fanwank piece, this is the modern equivalent of Voyager launching UPN.

Again, could be wrong but surely CBS realizes they're not going to entice a a general audience to pay money to watch a show they casually know or have never cared about. Heck, there are people on this website who have said they won't pay for it.

I think CBS ran the numbers and figures that the Trek fanbase is large enough that a new show is viable if a certain percentage of the fanbase will pay for it. Sure, they'd like to attract non-fans but that certainly can't be their business model. No, they'll aim this directly at the fanbase and try to scoop up as many of we the fans as possible. They'll aim the show at the people they think will actually pay for it.

I don't believe they view pay-for-online All Access like the launch of UPN, a television network.

 

[Tosk]

Well, isn't Beyond coming out in the next couple of months?

I wasn't particularly disagreeing with you, but there's a difference between "in the next few months" and "not for a few months." It's not as though I know anything anyway. We're both just throwing guesses at the wall here.

 

[Bry_Sinclair]

If they went this way maybe they could explain what "red matter" is and why, if all that was needed was a miniscule droplet, did Spock's ship have such an enormous quantity of the stuff--had his mission failed and his ship been destroyed then that amount of "red matter" would've caused massive damage to a huge area of space and subspace, rendering warp travel impossible over a large portion of the Beta Quadrant.

 

[Dukhat]

^And precisely none of that is going to matter to anyone who isn't a hard-core Trek fan, And even then, probably not so much.

 

[Nyotarules]

But lackluster sales of TOS, TNG and ENT blurays have already shown CBS that they can't rely solely on fan support to make their new show successful.

Using British TV as an example, Star Trek is always on the TV perhaps this is why fans do not buy the products?

 

[Dukhat]

Using British TV as an example, Star Trek is always on the TV perhaps this is why fans do not buy the products?

While I'm sure it doesn't help that one can see Trek series in HD on Netflix without having to buy the blurays, I think it's more than that. The returns simply didn't justify the money and work that went into remastering shows that people had already seen before and were fine with owning the DVDs.