Any Stargate fans?
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Speaking on the Fandemonium books, were they sold at bookstores like Barnes and Noble or Borders? I might have seen them before, but not like Trek, Star Wars, HALO, or other media tie-in stuff. I also wonder why there weren't more Stargate comics?
And Stargate fan films.
The concept is simple, but ripe for greater exploration.
And Stargate fan films.
The concept is simple, but ripe for greater exploration.
I didn't watch a lot of the earlier seasons, or much of the earlier seasons of Stargate. I can't compare Seasons 9-10 to them necessarily, however I liked Seasons 9-10. I liked the Farscape additions and I liked the Ori. I thought the Priors were pretty cool. However I wasn't looking at it from the perspective of watching all of the seasons and going through the whole war against the System Lords.
I've seen SG-1 and SGA twice. I enjoyed both shows, SG-1 is my favourite.
I was also bothered by the many character changes in both shows, esp. on Atlantis. However, in contrast to a lot of fans (I think), I really liked Jonas Quinn.
I loved Carter on SG-1 and hated her on Atlantis. She was like "Physics? What's that? Rodney?"
Being an avid fan of Star Trek Voyager I was really looking forward to Robert Picardo. However, he simply didn't fit with the rest of the cast for me. It wasn't the actor's fault though, I was simply unable to detach his role from VOY. I was constantly afraid he'd ask someone any minute to state the nature of the medical emergency ...
I hated SGU. What did the creators think? That a show will be popular when you get to hate the main character literally after ten minutes in the first episode? It was disappointing. Also, if a ship was lost in space, why did every third episode take place on earth? Plus, it was unfinished ... I just didn't like it.
My favourite show is ST VOY and I also like DS9 to some extent. StarGate wasn't bad, I might watch it again one day. I.e. the first two shows. It seems from OP's remarks that the SGA relaunch books are quite good. I suppose there are relaunch books for the original series, too. Are they any good?
I was also bothered by the many character changes in both shows, esp. on Atlantis. However, in contrast to a lot of fans (I think), I really liked Jonas Quinn.
I loved Carter on SG-1 and hated her on Atlantis. She was like "Physics? What's that? Rodney?"
Being an avid fan of Star Trek Voyager I was really looking forward to Robert Picardo. However, he simply didn't fit with the rest of the cast for me. It wasn't the actor's fault though, I was simply unable to detach his role from VOY. I was constantly afraid he'd ask someone any minute to state the nature of the medical emergency ...
I hated SGU. What did the creators think? That a show will be popular when you get to hate the main character literally after ten minutes in the first episode? It was disappointing. Also, if a ship was lost in space, why did every third episode take place on earth? Plus, it was unfinished ... I just didn't like it.
My favourite show is ST VOY and I also like DS9 to some extent. StarGate wasn't bad, I might watch it again one day. I.e. the first two shows. It seems from OP's remarks that the SGA relaunch books are quite good. I suppose there are relaunch books for the original series, too. Are they any good?
I liked a lot of the books, but only glanced through a couple, so I can't really say too much other than they sounded interesting.
I personally liked Jonas Quinn a lot and was very sorry to see him go, but glad to get Michael Shanks back, so mixed feelings.
SGU- I never found a character on there that I liked, and so it was hard to get in to. Personally, I think they had an interesting idea but were not really sure how to bear it out in light of other Stargate shows.
SG-1 will always be my favorite, and I enjoyed it thoroughly. I think its time for a rewatch.
I personally liked Jonas Quinn a lot and was very sorry to see him go, but glad to get Michael Shanks back, so mixed feelings.
SGU- I never found a character on there that I liked, and so it was hard to get in to. Personally, I think they had an interesting idea but were not really sure how to bear it out in light of other Stargate shows.
SG-1 will always be my favorite, and I enjoyed it thoroughly. I think its time for a rewatch.
I'm a big Stargate fan. I'd say SG1 is probably my favourite all time show, if pushed.
The first 8 seasons of SG1 are a really great action adventure sci fi show with some really interesting mythology and a great sense of wonder combined with the idea that the universe is big and scary and we are sometimes idiots. The characters are compelling, interesting and likeable and the basic premise of the whole thing, a network of gateways between worlds, offered an almost limitless story pool.
Seasons 9 and 10 I originally didn't care for on first run. It seemed like a soft reboot with a silly bad guy and a lot of messing about, especially with Vala. I've found though that it stands up to rewatching much better than I remember it and I'm now rather fond of even those two years, although I'm still not saying they hold a candle to the preceding eight.
SG1 had some annoying tropes which only became more noticeable as time went on. First and most obviously the 'Search for the Lost Plot Device', they were always looking for ancient weapons in the later seasons. A symptom of trying to top themselves on bad guy terribleness, they needed magic devices to defeat their later bad guys, and this got tiresome. To their credit, they usually found new ways of telling each quest story.
Second most annoying trope: alternate universes/timelines. How many alternate realities did we see in the show? This sci fi cliché was handled well on its first appearance, but then just became an excuse to play 'what if'.
Atlantis, I tried, I really tried. But I couldn't get into it. I largely gave up after season 2 and have seen sporadic episodes of the rest as the years have gone by. I found the characters forgettable and the plots incredibly clichéd. Plus, the wraith were boring and the show ruined the mystery of the Ancients by making them just a bunch of historical assholes who knew a lot.
Universe, overall, I liked. It took too long to get going, getting obsessed with stuff which should be background detail - how do we get water? How do we scrub CO2? and trying too hard to be edgy and sexy. But it found its feet and did some reality interesting stuff, especially in season 2. Ironically given my moan above about alternate timelines, I loved the arc with the time travel duplicate society, and I think that would have made the perfect ending. Plus Rush's discoveries about the Ancients managed to undo some of the damage Atlantis did to the sense of mystery I remembered from Torment of Tantalus or The Fifth Race.
The first 8 seasons of SG1 are a really great action adventure sci fi show with some really interesting mythology and a great sense of wonder combined with the idea that the universe is big and scary and we are sometimes idiots. The characters are compelling, interesting and likeable and the basic premise of the whole thing, a network of gateways between worlds, offered an almost limitless story pool.
Seasons 9 and 10 I originally didn't care for on first run. It seemed like a soft reboot with a silly bad guy and a lot of messing about, especially with Vala. I've found though that it stands up to rewatching much better than I remember it and I'm now rather fond of even those two years, although I'm still not saying they hold a candle to the preceding eight.
SG1 had some annoying tropes which only became more noticeable as time went on. First and most obviously the 'Search for the Lost Plot Device', they were always looking for ancient weapons in the later seasons. A symptom of trying to top themselves on bad guy terribleness, they needed magic devices to defeat their later bad guys, and this got tiresome. To their credit, they usually found new ways of telling each quest story.
Second most annoying trope: alternate universes/timelines. How many alternate realities did we see in the show? This sci fi cliché was handled well on its first appearance, but then just became an excuse to play 'what if'.
Atlantis, I tried, I really tried. But I couldn't get into it. I largely gave up after season 2 and have seen sporadic episodes of the rest as the years have gone by. I found the characters forgettable and the plots incredibly clichéd. Plus, the wraith were boring and the show ruined the mystery of the Ancients by making them just a bunch of historical assholes who knew a lot.
Universe, overall, I liked. It took too long to get going, getting obsessed with stuff which should be background detail - how do we get water? How do we scrub CO2? and trying too hard to be edgy and sexy. But it found its feet and did some reality interesting stuff, especially in season 2. Ironically given my moan above about alternate timelines, I loved the arc with the time travel duplicate society, and I think that would have made the perfect ending. Plus Rush's discoveries about the Ancients managed to undo some of the damage Atlantis did to the sense of mystery I remembered from Torment of Tantalus or The Fifth Race.
I've seen SG-1 and SGA twice. I enjoyed both shows, SG-1 is my favourite.
I was also bothered by the many character changes in both shows, esp. on Atlantis. However, in contrast to a lot of fans (I think), I really liked Jonas Quinn.
I loved Carter on SG-1 and hated her on Atlantis. She was like "Physics? What's that? Rodney?"
Being an avid fan of Star Trek Voyager I was really looking forward to Robert Picardo. However, he simply didn't fit with the rest of the cast for me. It wasn't the actor's fault though, I was simply unable to detach his role from VOY. I was constantly afraid he'd ask someone any minute to state the nature of the medical emergency ...
I hated SGU. What did the creators think? That a show will be popular when you get to hate the main character literally after ten minutes in the first episode? It was disappointing. Also, if a ship was lost in space, why did every third episode take place on earth? Plus, it was unfinished ... I just didn't like it.
My favourite show is ST VOY and I also like DS9 to some extent. StarGate wasn't bad, I might watch it again one day. I.e. the first two shows. It seems from OP's remarks that the SGA relaunch books are quite good. I suppose there are relaunch books for the original series, too. Are they any good?
I agree with the Carter comments. I love the original SG-1 team but she seemed forced upon Atlantis. I'm noticing how many actors are from previous sci-fi shows like Trek, and I think you're right about Picardo. They do give him a better shakedown in some of the Atlantis books.
I like the "idea" of SGU, but it was poorly executed. I'm all for the "stranded across the universe" idea, but with the communication stones and the constant back and forth you never really felt that sense of peril or urgency. I think they felt that unless it was grounded with a few original Stargate characters and references that fans wouldn't buy into it. I guess we see the result of that.
What they did with a lot of the books is weave them in and out of the series. Sometimes they give a prompt at the beginning like "this takes place between such and such episodes" or they reference a recent plot line from the story they want to follow.
There are a few original post-series stories for SG1 and SGA and I enjoyed them for the most part. The writers consistently wrote for the same series multiple times and you can tell they are fans of the shows. There are also 4 novellas, and two of them of original-short stories.
I think they were originally only sold in stores in the UK. Fandemonium and most of the writers they hired for the books are UK and Australian writers. I'm pretty sure you can buy the paperbacks on Amazon or at http://www.stargatenovels.com/ .
I bought a few on Amazon, but they also sell them in e-book groups, and as much as I travel I ended up just buying them all on my Kindle.
I keep up with the editor Sally Malcolm, who also co-writes some of the SG1 and SGA books, and from what it sounds like the comics just lost their profit-margin and the licensing owners just gave up on it. She is pretty good about responding on Twitter.
There was an interview posted by GateWorld.com with Tapping that I wish I had the link to. In it they asked her about how she felt about going to Atlantis. Her reply was basically "After 10 years, and suddenly being canceled I kind of want to move on from doing this every week. However I was under contract for a season 11 and they are using it for Atlantis instead."
So yeah she was busy with her other show she did too, but she didn't want to be there.
A new Stargate: Atlantis ongoing comic starts this month or next from American Mythology. It will be set post-TV series.
I like Stargate SG-1 a lot. I liked most of it, although the first season or two was a bit week and the season without Daniel was painful. I really liked it when Ben Bowder and Claudia Black joined the show. While I liked RDA a lot, I didn't miss him once Black/Bowder joined. Overall, its not my favorite sci fi series, but its in the top 10.
Stargate Atlantis started out ok, but my viewing got stalled in Season 2 and I haven't gone back to it. I've seen a few episodes of Universe, and hated it immensely.
Stargate Atlantis started out ok, but my viewing got stalled in Season 2 and I haven't gone back to it. I've seen a few episodes of Universe, and hated it immensely.
Extremely different story. Read the planned outline of Extinction here.
Chapters in Canada sold them when they were first released, but stopped halfway through 2011. In fact, even on their websites they stopped selling printed Stargate novels, though they still sell e-books.
Not very many, actually. On SG-1 there were 8:
There But for the Grace of God
Point of View
2010
Moebius
Ripple Effect
The Road Not Taken
Unending
Continuum
Since Continuum is actually a movie, that's only 8 episodes of the actual series (Moebius is a two-parter, therefore 2 episodes) 8 episodes out of 214 isn't that bad a ratio.
I remember that interview, and I agree she didn't sound enthused about being on Atlantis. But, it was her commitments to the SG-1 movies that resulted from her frequent absence in season 4 of Atlantis. Trust me, people don't get time off over a lack of enthusiasm about their job.
Thanks for the info.
Putting my own two cents in about the Stargate shows...
I thought Universe was a good attempt to break out of the mold established by SG-1 and Atlantis, but I think they might have moved a bit too far away from the other shows in tone. Also there was quite a bit of shade of gray in their for the Universe characters and that might have been a bit too much, since SG-1 and Atlantis had established a sunnier brand. I did appreciate some of the aliens they used for Universe, particularly the blue aliens, the Nakai. I thought those were very well rendered.
I did enjoy Atlantis, particularly the earlier seasons. I thought the Wraith were cool, so were the Genii. Didn't go crazy over the Asurans, I liked the clanking replicators on SG-1 more. But all and all Atlantis and SG-1 were like comfort food. You could sit back and more than likely get an bright hour of action adventure and some humor tossed in, with pretty good production values.
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Well to be fair to SG-1
S6: Full Circle
S7: Lost City
S8: Moebius
Were all written as the finalé's so whilst trying to top themselves mayhave played some part, so did the fact they got more seasons they they thought they would.
It could have been in her contract that she only needs to work 13 episodes and not 20.
Still it doesn't matter, she didn't want to be there, and worse the writers didn't plan ahead. She was busy, she was only going to be there that season, they should have been planning long term.
Of course they did kill off Weir and Beckett for no reason so they really were out of it buy Atlantis season 4.
This. ^
I was a fan of it for a long time, but once RDA left it wasn't nearly as good. And the first of the later movies was very bad and forgettable in my opinion.The second one was ok, but it wasn't as good as the old episodes were.
Haven't watched Atlantis or Universe.
I didn't enjoy Atlantis when it was on and eventually I stopped watching. I didn't give it up, I just drifted away. 7 to 10 episodes would pile up and I didn't feel like watching them. I'd slog through eventually but then I just didn't anymore and that was that. I think this happened around the beginning of season 3.
Then Stargate Universe came on and rekindled my interest in Stargate and made me want to go back and finish Atlantis and I did. I got a kick out of the CSI episode. I was surprised when I looked at the discussion thread and a lot of people here didn't get the homage.
Then Stargate Universe came on and rekindled my interest in Stargate and made me want to go back and finish Atlantis and I did. I got a kick out of the CSI episode. I was surprised when I looked at the discussion thread and a lot of people here didn't get the homage.
There is only really one element of the 1st TVM "Ark of Truth" that didn't really need to be. Added nothing really to the plot etc..
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