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Spoilers Now that we've gotten Batman v Superman, what are your thoughts on the DCEU?

It is not a Nightwing costume, in fact, I didn't recognize it as a costume at all. Looked more like a headless statue made of copper, and it was definitely Robin. Apart from the 'R', there's also the fact that ithe shirt is closed at the front.
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That's traditionally the way Robin's shirt looked.
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Let's also not overlook the very obvious cape. Nightwing's costumes never included a cape.
 
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Because it connotes seriousness?

Plenty of serious movies over the decades have been made with a reasonable degree of color saturation. And really, if they don't want movies to be colorful, why not go all the way and revive the lost art of black-and-white cinematography, instead of this drab in-between approach?

Because they want to differ from Tim Burton's visual look as much as possible?

No, because it's not just this film, it's industrywide. Digital color correction has done terrible things to movie cinematography, because so many filmmakers these days seem compelled to adjust their films to have one of a narrow range of different looks, like muted colors or everything tending toward orange and blue. And then there are all the films and shows that try to duplicate the sickly green tint used in The Matrix, even though it doesn't make any sense to do so -- the green tinge there was meant as a subtle cue that the scenes set inside the Matrix were unreal, not just a random and pointless stylistic touch like the way all the imitators use it.


That may be part of an R. If I could find it. No way is that red. Now where's the R?:cool:

Upper left chest (our right), above the "Ke" in "JoKe's on you." Partly covered by the second A and third H in "HAHAHA."

I'm no expert on Robinalia, though my best friend is. He called it as a Nightwing costume.

I don't know why. There's nothing about it that matches any of Nightwing's various looks.


Apart from the 'R', there's also the fact that ithe shirt is closed at the front.
That's traditionally the way Robin's shirt looked.

Not to mention that those were supposed to be cloth laces, not metal clips or whatever. And it was more of a jerkin than a shirt, since Robin's look and nickname were inspired by Robin Hood. (I was surprised when the Superman radio show's narrator once described it as a red leather vest. It had never occurred to me that it might be leather, but that makes sense.)
 
Digital color correction has done terrible things to movie cinematography, because so many filmmakers these days seem compelled to adjust their films to have one of a narrow range of different looks, like muted colors or everything tending toward orange and blue.

I'd like to take this back. I shouldn't have said that digital color correction has done terrible things to cinematography. It can certainly be a valuable tool when used well, like any other tool. The problem is that too many filmmakers use it carelessly, to mimic the look of one successful film or another without considering the reasons why that look was appropriate in that particular case (as with the Matrix example I cited).
 
I don't mind those things which were originally laces in the comic book being clips or something like that in the movie version.

The costumes in lots of superhero movies have had details that didn't exactly match the (various) comic book versions. After all, where are Batman and Superman's "underwear" over their tights these days? And it's about time that Batman's costume had a gray bodysuit instead of solid black! Oh yeah, and the Burton/Schumacher franchise started the trend of molded muscle-shaped armor instead of visible muscles! :lol:

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I don't mind those things which were originally laces in the comic book being clips or something like that in the movie version.

Not saying it's wrong, just clarifying what the origin of that design feature was.


After all, where are Batman and Superman's "underwear" over their tights these days?

I'm so tired of that "underwear" gag. They're trunks. Classic superhero costumes are based on the garb of circus strongmen and acrobats, who wore trunks over their tights for the sake of modesty. Also, it helps break up the lines and colors of the costume, which makes it more visually interesting -- certainly back in the day when comics were drawn with less detail.
 
They're trunks. Classic superhero costumes are based on the garb of circus strongmen and acrobats, who wore trunks over their tights for the sake of modesty. Also, it helps break up the lines and colors of the costume, which makes it more visually interesting -- certainly back in the day when comics were drawn with less detail.

So basically a relic of a bygone age.
 
I have the impression that even viewers who dislike BvS are intrigued by the upcoming DC movies.
Not I. I probably would've skipped BvS theatrically if it wasn't raining yesterday, and a friend of mine wanted to see it. After MoS and BvS, I'm not seeing any more Snyder DC movies in theaters, maybe barring really great reviews.

Gadot was fine in BvS, but I certainly am not counting the months until her solo movie, which presumably ends with her giving up on humanity for a century. (Inspiring!) As for Suicide Squad... sounds like a rental. I'm sure I'll see all these DC movies eventually, but apart from solo Batflecks, they'll probably be rentals.

If I were in charge of the DC movies, and had a clean slate to start from (i.e., disregarding what's already in production), I'd ask Affleck to do a rebooted Bat-series set in the 30s/40s. As for the rest... I don't really care. If there wasn't a Supergirl TV series on I'd say scrap the Superman movies and do a franchise based on her, but since the series is on I'd let it be. I'd be more interested in an HBO translation of Y: The Last Man to TV anyhow.

Make mine Marvel, indeed. :bolian:
 
Inspiring!

People looking to pretend people for inspiration are people in need of a life.

I don't look to be "inspired" by fictional characters, only to be entertained. So far I've been more entertained by the DCCU than the MCU with it's stale, by the numbers films featuring villains less threatening than the Keystone Kops. This should be the theme played at the climax of every Marvel Studios film because it's the most appropriate score possible for their super hero comedies:

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People looking to pretend people for inspiration are people in need of a life.

I don't look to be "inspired" by fictional characters, only to be entertained. So far I've been more entertained by the DCCU than the MCU with it's stale, by the numbers films featuring villains less threatening than the Keystone Kops. This should be the theme played at the climax of every Marvel Studios film because it's the most appropriate score possible for their super hero comedies:

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Whatever, man. Better Benny Hill than paying more good money to see another two and a half hours of "OH GOOOD! WHY DO I HAVE TO BE SUPER POWEEEERED??? IT'S SO HARRRRRD! MY MOTHER'S NAME IS MARRTHAAAA!"

Make Mine Marvel, too.
 
People looking to pretend people for inspiration are people in need of a life.

Nonsense. The characters may be imaginary, but they symbolize ideas and illustrate ways to behave, and those are the things that give people inspiration. Countless people have been inspired by fiction to do meaningful things in real life, like all the Star Trek fans who became real astronauts and engineers and physicists and doctors. Human beings have always used stories to convey values and shape choices, going back to ancient myths -- hell, going back to the earliest cave paintings, probably. The whole purpose of imagination is to enable us to plan our future choices. Everything you have ever chosen or planned to do in your entire life -- including your choice to disparage the whole concept of imagination -- is something that happened because you imagined yourself doing it and then acted on the decision your imagination enabled you to make. Fictional characters are just stand-ins for ourselves in that imaginative process. Imagining ourselves in their place lets us rehearse and decide how we might behave in similar circumstances. Looking to pretend people for inspiration helps us live our lives. If you shut yourself off from your imagination, if you disparage its value as a mental tool for contemplating the future possibilities of your existence, then you are the one who is depriving yourself of a life, or at least of a sizeable portion thereof.
 
Is it too soon to ask them to reboot the series? They can keep the actors, but just get a new writing/directing/producing team.
 
Is it too soon to ask them to reboot the series? They can keep the actors, but just get a new writing/directing/producing team.
You can ask...:shrug:

However, there are some of us (and we're not as small a group as one might think) who are interested in seeing the story pursued further in the current setting.

There'll be a "reboot" at some point (we've had several already after all), but this incarnation is around for the short to medium term--like it or not.
 
Countless people have been inspired by fiction to do meaningful things in real life, like all the Star Trek fans who became real astronauts and engineers and physicists and doctors.

And more people have been inspired by, you know, actual people.


including your choice to disparage the whole concept of imagination -- is something that happened because you imagined yourself doing it and then acted on the decision your imagination enabled you to make.

"Waaaaaaaahhhh!!!! You said something I disagreed with, so I'm going to accuse you of disparaging the very idea of imagination itself!!!"

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:


Fictional characters are just stand-ins for ourselves in that imaginative process. Imagining ourselves in their place lets us rehearse and decide how we might behave in similar circumstances. Looking to pretend people for inspiration helps us live our lives.

They may help you live YOUR life, not mine. You may take more inspiration from a guy fighting Martians, I take inspiration from a guy who actually faced real hardship in the real world and overcame it. Guess we're different that way.

If you shut yourself off from your imagination, if you disparage its value as a mental tool for contemplating the future possibilities of your existence, then you are the one who is depriving yourself of a life, or at least of a sizeable portion thereof.


A writer thinking he's going to explain "imagination" to an artist......:lol:
 
And more people have been inspired by, you know, actual people.

Writers and actors are actual people. Telling stories about fictional people is how those actual people inspire others. And fictional people, of course, are often inspired by actual people in turn. What creators put in fiction is shaped by their experience of real life. So the dichotomy you posit is entirely false.


"Waaaaaaaahhhh!!!! You said something I disagreed with, so I'm going to accuse you of disparaging the very idea of imagination itself!!!"

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

You're certainly not doing a very good job of refuting the idea that your intent is to disparage.
 
Because it connotes seriousness? Because SAVING PRIVATE RYAN did it along with the jittercam? Because they want to differ from Tim Burton's visual look as much as possible? A good question with many potential answers.
The de-coloured look is also common in video games. I agree that "seriousness" is the basic reason. And games going for a lighter, more comical tone do all seem to use a very colourful palette. Do people think BvS should have looked like Super Mario Bros?
 
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