Wish List for Star Trek: 2017
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- Focus on lighthearted and fun adventure. I think with the last four series, we've had our fair share of cerebral, heavy, and serious Trek stories. I'd like to go back to the spirit of The Original Series, the colour, the spirit and the attitude of that original 60s show that is still, 50 years later, the most beloved and appealing Trek of them all to fans.
- Character conflict. Good drama requires conflict between at least one lead character and another. TNG managed to avoid this with its utopian outlook on the future, but in today's world, I believe it's a necessity. What made TOS for me was the conflicting attitudes between Spock and McCoy, it helped in grounding those characters and making them somewhat relatable. It also provided lots of laughs. I want to see that same chemistry that the three original leads and the DS9 crew had in this new series. And, please, give us flawed characters. Flawed characters are relatable, interesting and layered.
- New alien species with interesting designs. I think we've seen enough humans with forehead/nose prosthetics acting as "aliens" and heard enough about "what it means to be a Klingon" and the famous Klingon ritual of "....". I want to see new and interesting alien species with creative designs you'd see in Star Wars, Mass Effect, Babylon 5 and Farscape. Not everything in the galaxy has to be a light-skinned, blue-eyed, brown-haired humanoid.
- Serialized storytelling with an overarching plot. The highest-rated most popular TV shows today are nearly always serialized. Episodic TV doesn't allow for the same character development and storytelling that serialized TV does. I think a long, drawn-out and interesting plot with a beginning, middle and end told over multiple seasons is much more captivating and attractive than pressing the reset button with a new and unrelated story every episode. Preferably, most episodes would be a standalone story that anyone can enjoy, but they'll still push the overall season/series plot forward.
- Leads being killed off. The threat of main characters being killed off is something else that has been utilized quite a lot in modern TV. It helps viewers become more attached to characters and can provide good drama/emotion, as long as it's not overused as it has been in Game of Thrones.
- Shorter seasons. 20-26 episode seasons are just asking for filler. It's outdated, unless you want The CW quality, don't go there. 10-13 episode seasons is the rage nowadays, and for good reason. It allows for tighter, story-packed, yet roomy storytelling. If you want to compete with the best, go for shorter seasons. Less is more.
- Be optimistic. This doesn't need much explaining. Star Trek has to be optimistic. If you want dystopia, go watch Battlestar Galactica.
- A fresh take on the ideas in Star Trek. Nothing is worse than stale, cliché and rehashed stories and ideas (looking at you Into Darkness). Do something new and creative, stray from what's "common", maybe even go as far as pissing off hardcore fans, as long as it stays true to the core of this franchise and adds to we already have, then I'm happy.
I deleted the majority of your post just because it made it easier for me to respond point-by-point but it was a very good post
Now for my response
1. The focus on light-hearted and fun adventures would be nice but I don't know how likely that'll happen in today's market for darker and grittier television (from my experience anyway).
2. I think character conflict is pretty much a given and I'd be surprised if they didn't do it. Honestly I think if Voyager was made nowadays Chakotay and Janeway would've had more disagreements than they did.
3. It would be interesting if we got at least one new alien species with an interesting design especially since nowadays you can do a better job with designing a look for an alien.
4. Agreed one hundred percent on wanting a serialized story arc for Trek.
5. As for leads being killed off well it would depend on how and who personally speaking but it could be interesting to see.
6. Here's where I somewhat disagree with you. But that's only because I'm a greedy bugger when it comes to Trek
and my greed for Trek means I'd prefer it if they kept the 20+ episode length. However, depending on what budget it gets you might get your wish.7. I would have no problem with an optimistic Trek but like I said in point 1 I'm not sure how likely it is we'll get an optimistic series in today's market.
8. Agreed.
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I want it now. That's my wishlist.
There's always room for lighthearted Trek, not everything has to be dark and gritty. Just look at Fuller's previous shows.I deleted the majority of your post just because it made it easier for me to respond point-by-point but it was a very good post
Now for my response
1. The focus on light-hearted and fun adventures would be nice but I don't know how likely that'll happen in today's market for darker and grittier television (from my experience anyway).
2. I think character conflict is pretty much a given and I'd be surprised if they didn't do it. Honestly I think if Voyager was made nowadays Chakotay and Janeway would've had more disagreements than they did.
3. It would be interesting if we got at least one new alien species with an interesting design especially since nowadays you can do a better job with designing a look for an alien.
4. Agreed one hundred percent on wanting a serialized story arc for Trek.
5. As for leads being killed off well it would depend on how and who personally speaking but it could be interesting to see.
6. Here's where I somewhat disagree with you. But that's only because I'm a greedy bugger when it comes to Trek
7. I would have no problem with an optimistic Trek but like I said in point 1 I'm not sure how likely it is we'll get an optimistic series in today's market.
8. Agreed.
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I agree that there's always room for light-hearted stuff
(and not just Trek) and it is my preference for Trek to be more light-hearted rather than dark and gritty, I was merely saying that I think it might not be light-hearted due to modern day viewing habits (no figures on me just personal experience in discussions I've had with others regarding television ).But yeah Fuller has worked on lighter shows in the past so fingers crossed
Couldn't agree with you more. Sums up my feelings very well.
Here's where I somewhat disagree with you. But that's only because I'm a greedy bugger when it comes to Trek
Must disagree there - 20+ episodes a season pretty much guarantees filler and weak episodes to meet deadlines. The best of writers can't churn out 24 odd brilliant episode ideas a year. But a good team can hopefully manage 10 without having to resort to clichés or just plain terrible ideas.
Part of the paradise is the people will be able to provide for themselves through their own efforts without being dependent upon handouts and "free stuff," the opportunities will be there so you can be financially independent and responsible for your own lifestyle. And while I think there would be a minimal social safety net, in the paradise economy it would be rarely needed.
People would purchace the basics through their own financial means.
Wealth untold might not be everyone's goal, but there will be some in the Federation's population for whom it is their driving motivation.
The Fedeation has hundreds of billions (plus) of people, I wouldn't want the Federation to be a giant "planet of hats" where everyone is the same, have the same outlook, the same goals, the same philosophy, the same philosophy on money and employment.
Likely there would be people in the Federation who do love their jobs, others despise theirs, others still will be neutral on their employment, it's just a means to support themselves.
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Not hard to be lighter than Hannibal, I imagine.But yeah Fuller has worked on lighter shows in the past so fingers crossed
One thing I'm curious about: All Fuller's shows seem to have main characters who feel distanced from other people, and I'm wondering how that will play out in the set-up of the new show.
CBS produce and create the best show they can do; whether it's in the JJverse or something new, I hope they do something different from what I've seen before.
I would like the series to go back to 3 or maybe 4 main cast members and the rest treated as featured players; this helps with character stories a lot better and it keeps the plots focus. More than 4 is too much, and some will get lost in the shuffle of stories.
I would like the series to go back to 3 or maybe 4 main cast members and the rest treated as featured players; this helps with character stories a lot better and it keeps the plots focus. More than 4 is too much, and some will get lost in the shuffle of stories.
1. Prime Universe, NO enterprise and JJ content (not even a passing reference)
2. No token characters, I don't want to see characters whose defining character trait as just "the black one" or the "Gay one" or whatever. Characters need to be fully 3 dimensional and believable.
3. Set post 24th century, continuity can be upheld but gives complete freedom to writers to come up with new stories and series premise.
4. Exploration yes, this is Trek afterall; but don't ignore galactic politics and stories that encompass more than just the federation and earth specifically. Depict the universe it is set in as well as the adventures or events that concern the main characters in the show.
5. Arcs, arcs and more arcs. Stand-alone episodes are fine, but it is always the same, big emergency and then everything is tied up in a bow at the end (reset button). I want to go on a journey with characters and stories that evolve over the course of the show.
6. Orchestral music please, contemporary misic in any form whether I dislike the type or not would age the show in the long run. Orchestral music gives the show/film a timeless aspect to it and gives it a more sophisticated feel.
7. Don't patronise the audience or dumb things down.
8. Time Travel in very very small doses please, unless it is used to erase the existence of Enterprise and the JJ verse, then I would applaud its use as one major plot outcome of the pilot episode.
2. No token characters, I don't want to see characters whose defining character trait as just "the black one" or the "Gay one" or whatever. Characters need to be fully 3 dimensional and believable.
3. Set post 24th century, continuity can be upheld but gives complete freedom to writers to come up with new stories and series premise.
4. Exploration yes, this is Trek afterall; but don't ignore galactic politics and stories that encompass more than just the federation and earth specifically. Depict the universe it is set in as well as the adventures or events that concern the main characters in the show.
5. Arcs, arcs and more arcs. Stand-alone episodes are fine, but it is always the same, big emergency and then everything is tied up in a bow at the end (reset button). I want to go on a journey with characters and stories that evolve over the course of the show.
6. Orchestral music please, contemporary misic in any form whether I dislike the type or not would age the show in the long run. Orchestral music gives the show/film a timeless aspect to it and gives it a more sophisticated feel.
7. Don't patronise the audience or dumb things down.
8. Time Travel in very very small doses please, unless it is used to erase the existence of Enterprise and the JJ verse, then I would applaud its use as one major plot outcome of the pilot episode.
Yeah I'd think it'd be hard not to be lighter than a series about a serial killer
I agree with these three points in particular.
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