Spoilers Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice - Grading & Discussion
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Yeah it may be ridiculous that this is the expectation now, but I think we saw from the huge opening weekend that the interest in BvS was definitely there, and if the movie had been a lot better it probably could have easily shot up over a billion. Which probably only makes this even more frustrating for the studio.
I mean we're talking about an epic matchup between Batman and Superman, featuring the first appearance of Wonder Woman. There's just no WAY the numbers for something like that should be dropping off so quickly.
Looks like Ang Lee's Hulk will finally be able to rest, as it'll no longer be the gold standard for steep second-weekend superhero movie drop-off.
It just goes to show that quality and good WOM count for something. You can't throw any old cluttered, noisy, half-baked spectacle on the big screen and expect massive success these days.
Good question...that hadn't occurred to me. It seems a little early in the life of this version of the character to drop that iconic angle of the mythos.
Snyder's dropped virtually everything else about Superman, his hope and optimism, his humanity, his morality, his inspirational presence, his caring nature, his need to save as many people as he can and not put anyone at risk or in danger, him having inspiration and hope from his human parents (Maybe next time let the bus fill of kids drown, Clark), his need to be part of something bigger being something that always drove him into becoming the hero we all need and deserve (Eh. after high school I think I'll wander around the world until I'm in my mid-30s), letting little stand in his way of always being his very best (If Lois dies, I'm totally taking over the world!) so I don't see how dropping the Clark Kent thing would be any different.
I'm going with a 90% chance of the "reborn" Superman having some kind of new powers beyond those he ever really had in the comics aside from silly Silver Age stuff induced by a plot contrivance or a new color of kryptonite (Red-K: It does whatever silly thing we need it to do; just this once!) I'm guessing some kind of psionic or telekentic powers, maybe something like the various "other" versions of Superman we got after "The Death of Superman" in comics, maybe some Superboy-style powers.
I mean, how much fun will Superman be when he's even more unlike Superman than he already is?!
I'm going with a 90% chance of the "reborn" Superman having some kind of new powers beyond those he ever really had in the comics aside from silly Silver Age stuff induced by a plot contrivance or a new color of kryptonite (Red-K: It does whatever silly thing we need it to do; just this once!) I'm guessing some kind of psionic or telekentic powers, maybe something like the various "other" versions of Superman we got after "The Death of Superman" in comics, maybe some Superboy-style powers.
I mean, how much fun will Superman be when he's even more unlike Superman than he already is?!
I doubt what's happened with BVS will have much of an effect on the movies already in production, but I could see then reevaluating their plans for future movies. If any more of the DCEU movies get this kind of reaction, I doubt we'll ever see anything beyond Cyborg, if we even make it past JL Part 2.
AoS was the end of his contract and he wanted to be able to do other things.
I think The Flash and Aquaman will still happen (particularly the latter since they've already hired James Wan to direct and cast Amber Heard as Mera), but I can see DC's post-2018 slate (sans Justice League Part Two) getting reshuffled and/or replaced almost completely to make room for a solo Affleck Batman movie ASAP.
It happens with Marvel too. I mean Avengers 2: Age of Ultron made $1.4 Billion; yet you still have some folks decrying what a 'failure' that film was compared to the First film: Marvel's The Avengers that made $1.5 Billion (and most sequels make WAY less than the original; but even taking into account slight inflation - Avengers 2: Age of Ultron performed VERY well at the box office - yet again to many it was 'a failure' for various reasons. (Not to me - I enjoyed the film and still do today as I watch it on the various 'pay' cable channels (Starz, etc.)
It's why I'm starting to think ignoring nerds on the Internet as whitnoise is a good idea, because half of their yammering a are about how pretty much every movie is doomed.
Well I think the terrible Transformers and Pirates of the Caribbean sequels prove that audiences have no problem with cluttered, noisy, half-baked spectacles. It's just big summer movies that are dull and plodding and almost entirely devoid of humor that I think they really have a problem with, and unfortunately those are all things that BvS suffers from.
I saw on Facebook that they're reshooting Suicide Squad to add jokes to avoid a repeat of the same complaints from last month.
I think it's more because the trailer with the comedy in it and Queen song was much better received than others. If they think the only thing lacking in BvS were jokes, then they're in even more trouble.
Same goes for Clark's supporting cast / work colleagues. Jimmy for instance...
Glad I've not seen the trailer then.
More fresh gags when I see the movie...
He's fat?
Never mind.
Nice run down of the numbers.
Never mind.
Nice run down of the numbers.
Camera does add a couple of pounds...
If Ben Afflek has written a... Fuck.
Ben could have totally talked Robin Williams into being the Riddler, if Robin was still with us.
(I'm having a Giggle fit)
Fully grown, old man Robin Williams as Robin the Boy Wonder.
Ben could have totally talked Robin Williams into being the Riddler, if Robin was still with us.
(I'm having a Giggle fit)
Fully grown, old man Robin Williams as Robin the Boy Wonder.
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