Which Next Generation Movie was the Best?
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First Contact
Simply for the action, story and pace - plus the fact that Starfleet, despite having weapons adapted to, could still damage the Borg
Simply for the action, story and pace - plus the fact that Starfleet, despite having weapons adapted to, could still damage the Borg
I voted for Generations - simply because of cinematographer John A. Alonzo, to be perfectly honest. The story is hateful and I resent William Shatner's presence, throughout, but it is such a beautifully shot motion picture that it forgives many sins. It's gorgeous to behold and the cast is photographed looking their very best. Marina and Gates are stunning in this movie. As careful as Jonathan Frakes was to make sure his costars looked great in his movies, Generations was untouchable in that department. Alonzo's an Artist ... that's it and all about it.
Otherwise, I am a Jonathan Frakes fan, in part, due to his brilliance as a director. I cannot stand Zephram Cochran in First Contact, like ... at all. And it breaks my heart that Gates' hair looks like shit in that movie, but otherwise everything about it works. The fact is also, that I don't care for the concept of a Borg Queen, but it was handled deftly in this picture. She was extremely well-cast and presented in as cool a way as possible. I almost find myself being swayed.
I enjoy Insurrection. I find it to be entertaining popcorn fare and that's all it has to be, really. I'm fine with it.
Nemesis is shite.
The combination of Sir Patrick Stewart, Brent Spiner and John Logan constructing this story that nothing could $ave it. Although ... Jonathan Frakes would've - most certainly - selected an infinitely better cinematographer. Nemesis let the cast look like a disaster ... that's unforgivable. As is having Deanna Troi getting mind-raped, for her last outing. Oh, yeah ... hey! There's a concept ... rape Troi, before we say good-bye to her, to justify her using her empathic powers to locate and disable Shinzon's cloaked ship, later on. I would've tolerated an attempted (physical) rape that was foiled by Riker ... perhaps, even on the Enterprise, itself. But what they did ... no. Just ... no. I love Troi and, uh ... that's .... that's not the way to send her off.
Otherwise, I am a Jonathan Frakes fan, in part, due to his brilliance as a director. I cannot stand Zephram Cochran in First Contact, like ... at all. And it breaks my heart that Gates' hair looks like shit in that movie, but otherwise everything about it works. The fact is also, that I don't care for the concept of a Borg Queen, but it was handled deftly in this picture. She was extremely well-cast and presented in as cool a way as possible. I almost find myself being swayed.
I enjoy Insurrection. I find it to be entertaining popcorn fare and that's all it has to be, really. I'm fine with it.
Nemesis is shite.
The combination of Sir Patrick Stewart, Brent Spiner and John Logan constructing this story that nothing could $ave it. Although ... Jonathan Frakes would've - most certainly - selected an infinitely better cinematographer. Nemesis let the cast look like a disaster ... that's unforgivable. As is having Deanna Troi getting mind-raped, for her last outing. Oh, yeah ... hey! There's a concept ... rape Troi, before we say good-bye to her, to justify her using her empathic powers to locate and disable Shinzon's cloaked ship, later on. I would've tolerated an attempted (physical) rape that was foiled by Riker ... perhaps, even on the Enterprise, itself. But what they did ... no. Just ... no. I love Troi and, uh ... that's .... that's not the way to send her off.
None of them are anywhere near as good as the TV series.
I don't particularly like any of them, but First Contact's probably the best. Perversely, I enjoyed Nemesis more...
Is this a trick questions???
I think now, in retrospect, a number of people are enjoying Nemesis a lot more than they did in the 10 years following its release. Now that the impact of popular thought and emotion has subsided...I think people are seeing, at least in some cases, that it's not the worst movie ever produced in the history of humanity.
First Contact is the best, obviously. This is like asking who of the Jackson 5 was the best singer.
I don't get the hate for Insurrection. People say that it doesn't feel like a movie but just feels like a long TNG episode. Sure, I get that, it is a pretty decent TNG episode though.
Generations was a sad mess. It had some good bits, but more times I've seen it, more I dislike it.
I am a bit shocked that Nemesis seems to be the second most popular film on the poll. It was just dreadful. I really cannot think anything good to say about that film.
I don't get the hate for Insurrection. People say that it doesn't feel like a movie but just feels like a long TNG episode. Sure, I get that, it is a pretty decent TNG episode though.
Generations was a sad mess. It had some good bits, but more times I've seen it, more I dislike it.
I am a bit shocked that Nemesis seems to be the second most popular film on the poll. It was just dreadful. I really cannot think anything good to say about that film.
Least worst. Not best.
Just flat and uninteresting. Wouldn't even have made a standout episode.
No, it really didn't. Actually, it did destroy the vile 1701D...
Flawed yes, but at least it was somewhat entertaining.
Simply a terrible movie where Picard decides he is smarter than his government and overturns a decision made by the Federation council. A council that was democratically elected by the people. In my mind, Picard should've been strung up for treason. Then there's the fact that once it was found that the Ba'ku and S'ona were the same people, the Federation should have recused itself from the conflict and allowed them to settle it on their own. Among other things...
Though I did like the Gilbert & Sullivan bit during the capture of Data. After that? It was all downhill.
That sounds reasonable. Hang him by his neck until dead. All because he followed his own morals and chose not to forcefully relocate people when the Federation wanted something that wasn't theirs and decided that they would take it.
Right or wrong, I'll take that over "I was just following orders."
I guess the Federation could have left them where they were when the Federation collected the particles, but that sounds pretty harsh.
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